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- DoodlesMcPooh, on 10/12/2007, -31/+280If they make strong software why don't they release it?
- cannibaljp, on 10/12/2007, -7/+182This just in:
Ford CEO says he will not buy a new toyota...
Gee - who saw that coming? - dennisSL, on 10/12/2007, -46/+143Does anyone else think that he needs to take his fist out of his mouth? He obviously doesn't know that their "strong software" needs critical updates every week.
- llbbl, on 10/12/2007, -23/+100Lies all Lies, From the king of the FUDpackers.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+62Perhaps he means that the software is "strong" in the sense that it's difficult to remove from your computer.
- Markie1006, on 10/12/2007, -9/+54> Ford CEO says he will not buy a new toyota...
It would be more accurate if you said;-
Ford CEO says "Fords are the only cars that are inpenetratable to thieves, unlike those other manufacturers" - podgey22, on 10/12/2007, -15/+58I'm officially fed up of this *****.
- DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -12/+46I've been the owner of a windows smartphone (Audiovox SMT5600 http://tinyurl.com/5xmpu) for about 2 years now. Sometimes it appears to be working fine but I will miss calls and it won't start receiving calls unless I reboot. Sometimes it freezes when making a call. Sometimes it just freezes. It's like windows '95 on a phone without the BSODs. On the hardware side, the call button stopped working normally after only a few months and sometimes I have to press it hard 20 times until it activates. I can get around it by using the phone book and directional pad to dial but sometimes it is needed. The wife really doesn't like my phone because I don't receive her calls or know when she leaves a message because the phone is not responding correctly. My father had a Blackberry phone and then went to a windows smartphone for a while. He was having similar software issues. I don't know if this is a common experience but it has left a bad taste in my mouth about windows smartphones.
- mabhatter, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32Absolutely, Boy needs to leave the company for a few years and not touch Microsoft at all.... Bill needs to go out and start a company to compete with Microsoft!!! Being kicked out of Apple was the best thing ever for Steve Jobs. He got to see what he had was beginners luck, not skill in the market. Had Jobs not went out and founded another company and run a business that USED software he'd never have brought those ideas back to Apple.
Bill is surrounded by sycophants. Nobody tells Bill the company is a steaming pile... Betting on the home team is fine, but it sounds like he's the typical middle age business guy.. doesn't root for any team but his own. The only thing that's saved Microsoft over the years is the big piles of money they have to manipulate the industry when it tries to change direction from THEIR plan.
The best comparison between Jobs and Gates is the keynotes... Where's the Vista keynote? Jobs give respectable, technically significant keynotes and really understands the tech and how to sell it. Bill Gates can barely USE the cornerstone product!!! He doesn't know what's out there, he hasn't had his "hands on" the project to know why things work the way they do.... he's just another CxO with talking points. - ElectricSoup, on 10/12/2007, -18/+41"Strong software"?
WinCE is such crap no one really wants it. There are other imbedded devices it could be, theoretically, be used in. But no-one wants it. Symbian is better; imbedded Linux is better. Heck, even the aging Palm is better.
As for the crappy interface. A Start Menu on a phone! Enough said.
And no-one in the industry, not even Palm, has a good solution for synching. Think you can plug your Windows Mobile device into your PC and it will sync painlessly using Windows Media Player, like you'll be able to with the iPhone and iTunes on OS X? Think again. You can't even sync your Zune with WMP.
Gates -- Gates the atrocious, Gates the dishonest, Gates the slippery, Gates the Rich White Trash -- Gates is whistling in the dark to keep his spirits up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DjSEx1QYJI - EXreaction, on 10/12/2007, -8/+25Who ever said IE was worst program of the year is a dumb ass.
Sure it sucks, but it isn't even close to the level of AOL or Norton software. - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23I think Bill Gates lives in 1995. He doesn't realize how ridiculous he sounds today. People don't buy this kind of doubletalk anymore.
- noreturn, on 10/12/2007, -15/+30Come on, everyone uses superlatives in marketing, even Apple. I think we're all mature enough to know when to take a grain of salt of things that we hear.
- searayman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20lol what the hell is he talking about?
- DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17"but it isn't even close to the level of AOL or Norton software."
Fortunately, these aren't installed by default on every system. - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -12/+25[quote]"Vista sucks!"[/quote]
I don't care about Macs, no one forces me to use them. Vista and its Treacherous Computing DRM is being shoved down our throats (in my case, SOLELY because of DX10!) and this sonofabitch from MS goes around acting like he's doing us a favor.
People don't like MS software. They use it because they have no other choice.
***** you, Bill Gates! - noddyxoi, on 10/12/2007, -14/+25Strong is not a measure for software quality. Here are some qualities of good software:
Robustness to errors: see Sun.
Interoperability: see Linux.
Natural Interfaces: see Apple.
As for bad software:
Blue screens, bugware, spyware, *****, vendor locking, monopoly : see Microsoft. - scabbers, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13What the hell kind of word is "strong" in relation to software, anyway? Maybe he means "wrong"
- noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15Worst Program of the Year 2006, Internet Explorer. Ring any bells, Bill? Someone take him off the meds, too much Valium is bad for reality.
- blankman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Obviously he's not going to buy an Apple product. That would be like the CEO of Ford Motor Company buying a Chevy
- DatoeDakari, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Thats not what he said 20 years ago;-)
- DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11"Update the rom. It sounds more hardware than software to me."
After some searching, it appears I have the latest ROM already. - lazyguy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12sorry, but windows mobile syncs REALLY well with the PC.
i walk within 10 meters, and my emails, new music, contacts, calenders and todo list are all sync'ed - autoy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Wow! this Vista campaign is really out of hand.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I gotta be honest here. I am holding my cell phone in my hand right now. And I can't even IMAGINE using two hands to dial. It would make me look like a 5 year old or Corky from Life Goes On. Even to text.
- fanboydcs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7not true. You can totally dial with one hand, didnt you see that david pouge video where he was dialing with his thumb?
- Joe_rigby, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10It's true, you can CTRL+ALT+DEL with one hand.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6What does that even mean, and how on earth do you expect that comment to make him look bad and you look good?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You are kidding, right? Or do you just not have opposable thumbs? MOST people dial the phone with the same hand that they are holding it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Dennis..do you know what QUOTES mean? You don't paraphrase in quotes. And since Bill Gates did not say "Only we make strong software" your description is *****.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11@Daffyduck: Update the rom. It sounds more hardware than software to me.
- dennisSL, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11@ robbh66 and everyone else accusing me of being a Mac fan --
I am typing this on my Windows 2000 professional edition SP4 machine. I do NOT own a Mac, I'm not a huge Apple fan apart of iPod/iTunes.
HOWEVER, does it mean that I have to blindly close my eyes to every single arrogant and self centered remark that Bill Gates makes, just because I use his software? Do I have to praise him for making it?
I do not think so. I'm a longtime Windows user. Windows 95, 98 BSODs alone justify ripping him a new one, and here he is saying that "in some respect we're the only ones that make strong software". What respect is that? Oh, and I'm very very sorry that I did not write the whole quote. I should be executed for lack of space to write the whole title. Tsk tsk.
Microsoft fanboys make me sick. - jmontes, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Donating money does not wipe clean evil deeds, regardless of the amount.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The point is, noahhoward, that you can tell where one button ends and one begins, and subconsciously deduce the location of every other button. With a touchscreen, you have to be looking at it, because you lose any tactile feedback from it.
- bersh, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7"I like to dial numbers with one hand, and maybe I’m the only one."
iphone does let you dial a number with one hand. Typing, maybe not so easily. - DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7"Only the windows mobile smartphones with a touch screen have a start menu , the others with the standard keyboards have a menu for applications like all the other phones."
My windows smartphone does indeed have a start menu.
http://www.tradebit.com/usr/twigges/pub/9002/585-1.jpg
See where it says start? When you press the button under it, the start menu pops up. It doesn't have a touchscreen, BTW. - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Probably not, but I'm sure AOL and Norton got theirs already. Can't remember where I heard it though or who said it.
- chaskell, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8The Strong Software comments aside, Bill is absolutely right about the one hand thing.
Every time you use your phone make a note of how many hands you are using. I did and I think I use one hand for the majority of my phone activities.
Also, if MS can make a phone with a decent touch interface and I can put whatever software I want on it, I'm there. I won't feel a bit sad not having an IPhone. - scabbers, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Are you a script or a bot or something? That makes no sense at all.
- MacBandit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Watch Pirates of Silicone Valley it explains everything you need to know about Bill.
- superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I know many around Digg have something against RoughlyDrafted, but I think this is a pretty good (if biased) history of WinCE...
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/50755EA6-A759-42FD-84ED-EBB5A060AF16.html
What cannot be attributed to bias in the continued low percentage of WinCE devices in phones overall - Linux actually has double or even triple the marketshare, but Symbian is the clear PhoneOS leader, with an iPod-sized chunk on the market. RD also has a nice history of Symbian as well:
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/855E5843-AF47-47B7-B363-3C1FD2636F43.html - meishme, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I think he's a bit biased.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5ctrl+alt+del is only the task manager on XP systems with fast user switching enabled. NT/2000/XP w/o FUS/Vista all use Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up the Windows Security Dialog, or a big shiny menu on Vista.
Now, Ctr+Shift+Esc. That'll bring up your task manager.....
I completely ignore 95/98, because they suck. - wwco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Hmm, how about a new policy at Microsoft? Anyone caught buying or using an iPhone or iPod is fired.
- jtherrien, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I am so sick of digg. The twisting of words and deceptive stories has me absolutely sick.
Apple fanboys, grow a brain. Especially you dennisSL. Quotation marks mean A LITERAL QUOTE not a DECEPTIVE PARAPHRASE. How does this crap make the front page? 90% of the stories I see are not only biased, but fundamentally misleading. - mabhatter, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7and internet explorer is not "strong software"... not by a long shot. The majority of people still use IE6... that's 5 years old!!! in various stages of patches. Their flagship product Windows XP is full of holes and Vista is not the "drop in" replacement that it needs to be after 5 years of development.
It's not secure, it's not bug free, it's not on time... and Microsoft makes like 85% profit from the sales of the OS... that's not "Strong Software" by any measure. It's passable, it's popular, it's installed everywhere... And so is McDonald's... that doesn't make it a 4-star restaurant. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7They are being INTERVIEWED about it you ***** idiot. What do you expect them to do, just sit there and not answer the questions?
- CdnPhoto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I had a Blackberry for a while. Dialing phone numbers on that keyboard was not a simple task if you were driving.
Besides using the voice call feature that most phones have, don't most people call the same numbers most of the time? Don't you use a phone list? I know I do. I can't even remember the number for many of the people I call often. - Oxygen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5If the iphone does indeed use a touch screen, it will make it more difficult to dial with a single hand or finger like you may with a more tactile device
- TexMachina, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Mac bigots, feh.
The iPhone, (C) Cisco, is just barely past vaporware and you're already bashing the competition and trying to revise history to suit the book of Jobs.
Well I've been using Windows PPC to play MP3's on my PDA phone for quite some time now. And I was using Kyocera and Handspring phones with Palm OS to do the same for years before.
I've also been:
Taking, editing and zooming in on pictures
Getting my email via SMTP and HTTP sites.
Browsing the web
Writing down notes galore
Reading books
Viewing and editing Office documents
Playing games
And watching Videos, even Quicktime videos meant for video iPods.
Pretty good for the weak crappy icky poo OS on my phone, eh? So now that the Apple Fundies (Psst.. I'm comparing you to right wing religious types.) are going to try and tell me the OS I happen to presently using is crap?
I moved from Palm OS on my PDA phone to Windows PCP and I may switch back should Palm do something new and better. Or I might even switch to something else. It all depends on who makes the better product. I might even have a phone with OSX on it someday. Not very likely unless Apple allows other manufacturers to make phones that use the new Phone/PDA/iPod OS. But hey, it could happen.
One thing is for sure, I will never be a brand loyal stooge again. I did that in the 80's with Atari and I won't be fooled again. Brand loyalty does nothing but blind you to the real possibilities. It also makes a fool of you as you are forced to warp you point of view to fit the ever growing lie. It's almost political, even Orwellian. The lie becomes truth etc. etc.
Never again.
Keep the faith Mac fan boys. Keep it to yourselves. -
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