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- wpyh, on 03/28/2009, -9/+211So... it's legal?
- trentdk, on 03/28/2009, -4/+88Here is Tony Davenport's comment -- please read this before anymore "zomg they screwed up roflrofl"
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The patent says:
"Display screen 500C may include options 510C for resources or applications available to the users. In some embodiments, options 510C for the same resources as other display screens may have different appearances (e.g., different icons). For example, in FIG. 5C, the options displayed for the Mail, Clock, Photos, YouTube, and Calculator applications may be different than those displayed in display screen 500A of FIG. 5A"
So Apple are saying "Hey we want the patent on this, and here are images of what it looks like on the iPhone. BUT, if people jailbreak their iPhone, steal our patent and then say - I didn't steal your patent because your patent shows an interface like this and mine is different because I've jailbroken it - they want to cover that base too.
Amusing, but the screenshot is correct in context ;) - Table, on 03/28/2009, -1/+70It's not technically illegal to jailbreak your phone.
- benologist, on 03/28/2009, -28/+85*Yawn*.
Someone submitted a sketch that had jailbroken icons!!!!! Pity Engadget's too ***** retarded to realise Apple can do whatever they want with their devices (even though they will probably lose their court case trying to prevent anyone else from doing that).
Keep up the awesome reporting Engadget!! - JasonCox, on 03/28/2009, -0/+52I found it more ironic that in the same patent application, Apple had a sketch of a MacBook with a Windows key on the keyboard.
- BlindingDawn, on 03/28/2009, -5/+53Looks like someone has a case of the Mondays
- mikehc, on 03/28/2009, -9/+47Pwnage!
- benologist, on 03/28/2009, -3/+32Apple's complaining that jailbreaking your phone is copyright infringement. It's an untested argument and probably going to fail. Even if they win their court case Apple obviously cannot infringe its own copyright.
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/02/apple-says-ja ... - squeevey, on 03/28/2009, -6/+34I'm not sure if any of you realize this but Apple almost certainly has applications developed inside the Cydia installer. Of course, it's not labeled as an apple product. However, it's a great way to beta test software.
Perfect example: Clippy. Take a look at the evolution of it, and then take a look at iphoneOS 3.0 with the cut and paste. They are almost identical.
It's not rocket science. - Ouze, on 03/28/2009, -0/+28I believe you'd get your ass kicked sayin something like that, man.
- staeiou, on 03/28/2009, -3/+27Apple is just saying that if you jailbreak your iPhone and modify the user interface, it is still covered by their patent.
- pleem83, on 03/28/2009, -2/+22I do drafting work for a patent firm, and this doesn't really surprise me. Patent attorneys don't usually make their own drawings, but rather contract them out to a draftsman or graphic artist. I imagine the draftsman just pulled a random iPhone image from Google and traced it, and it just turned out to be a jailbroken iPhone in the image.
- MrChunks, on 03/28/2009, -0/+18You're ***** persistent with your spam! Every front page story I read, there you bloody are with your stupid aloochaat.com. How about you stop?
- timdorr, on 03/28/2009, -0/+18PC LOAD LETTER? What the ***** does that mean?
- AmazingSteve, on 03/28/2009, -5/+20Apple's new motto...
"Do as iSay not as iDo." - 40yrOldVirgin, on 03/28/2009, -1/+13I have cheap tinfoil hats for sale on ebay. Look me up.
I do bulk discounts. - comradeTJH, on 03/28/2009, -2/+12I like how the battery in the second picture is already pretty drained :-D
- BrendanJB, on 03/28/2009, -1/+10Don't worry I won't tell anyone either, man!
- MacParrot, on 03/28/2009, -16/+24Holy crap!!!! A drawing from an Apple patent shows a few apps only available if you jailbreak the iPhone!
Well this changes EVERYTHING!!!
Oh wait...no it doesn't - Mtdewrulz, on 03/28/2009, -0/+8I stole something.
- se1zure, on 03/28/2009, -0/+7your logic and clear understanding of the patent system is uncontested.
- Pirataholic, on 03/28/2009, -3/+10Trade secrets my ASS!
- inactive, on 03/28/2009, -0/+7But the springboard is user definable anyway... there's an endless number of interface variations.
- zb0430, on 03/28/2009, -2/+8Ummm... As a company, when you own the device, the interface, and everything else regarding the device...
Yes, you can pretty much do whatever the hell you want to it. Can one steal from oneself, or infringe on one's own property? - nobelief, on 03/28/2009, -1/+7awww did they hurt your beloved apple
- r3zonance, on 03/28/2009, -2/+7For Apple, yes. But they can't infringe their copyright. However, that is only a drawing.
- inactive, on 03/28/2009, -1/+5bingo!
- rnawky, on 03/28/2009, -10/+13Apple: "Your honor, we believe that we have the right to use third party software to jailbreak our iPhone but no one else can do it"
Seriously, so they are allowed to use a piece of software developed by someone NOT RELATED to Apple in any way, but everyone else isn't? - r3zonance, on 03/28/2009, -1/+4Yes it's a daft stance most people seem to be taking. It's a drawing for fooks sake. You can't jailbreak a drawing.
Apple can't infringe their own copyright, it's just not possible. - r3zonance, on 03/28/2009, -4/+7No, Apple licensed the GUI from Xerox. Microsoft stole it.
- imnotmattritter, on 03/28/2009, -3/+6OH MY GOD!!!! Seriously, who cares?
- inactive, on 03/28/2009, -0/+3I haz success!
- Kakumeikeahi, on 03/28/2009, -1/+4Quiet you, some of us enjoy good irony.
- Axxion, on 03/29/2009, -0/+3dude i know this person they go to Macthemes2.net, read this: http://macthemes2.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=16794 ...
- JohnILM, on 03/28/2009, -0/+3Conjugal visits? Mmmm. Not that I know of. Y'know, minimum-security prison is no picnic. I have a client in there right now. He says the trick is: kick someone's ass the first day, or become someone's bitch. Then everything will be all right.
- r3zonance, on 03/28/2009, -0/+3How can I jailbreak a pencil drawing, that's what I want to know.
- javaroast, on 03/28/2009, -2/+4No, Apple licensed the GUI elements to Microsoft according to the judge in the look and feel case. Xerox attempted to sue Apple for stealing their GUI, but the statute of limitations had already passed. These are the facts, and we're all better off for it.
- fjsferreira, on 03/28/2009, -2/+4They close up in every way they can their OS, and their own people do what they want to prevent...
- felidaeus, on 03/28/2009, -1/+3iPwnage!
- NavS, on 03/28/2009, -2/+4Doesn't anyone sense shenanigans? Like Apple trying to patent jailbreaking........
- r3zonance, on 03/28/2009, -0/+2Apple doesn't need to Jailbreak their phones. They can surely get down and dirty to the heart of the device and do whatever the hell they like to it.
After all they created it and know exactly how it all works. - sirhomer, on 03/28/2009, -2/+4So if you buy an iPhone, that isn't ownership? Apple still owns it?
- inactive, on 04/08/2009, -0/+2@Mtdewrulz
we all did. - inactive, on 03/28/2009, -0/+2Is that like "obvious troll is obvious" ?
- LoneWolf01, on 03/29/2009, -0/+1@bbqsalad
Except those million or so that know Java. Just sayin'.
Also, you have a go at him about commenting on Digg about other peoples phones, yet in your last sentence you call it a bad decision. Hypocrite much?
Not taking sides, just making observations. - pak314, on 04/06/2009, -0/+1@zb0430, can they club seals with it?
- inactive, on 03/28/2009, -0/+1wrong thread sorry
- btronclassix, on 03/28/2009, -0/+1Isn't that an AC/DC song?
- bbqsalad, on 03/29/2009, -1/+2yeah but it looks like ***** and doesn't have an app store or a real community of developers.. Plus nobody cares, people get to do their own research then decide what they like better. But I bet commenting about it on digg makes you feel a lot better about your bad decision huh?
- inactive, on 03/28/2009, -1/+2Busted!
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