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- DelMonte, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Wow that was quick! :)
- chembro84, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Nice to see they addressed it so quickly, guess that's one of the advantages when your OS provider also provides the hardware
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10It should be noted the vulnerabilities patched here were not the same that were claimed by the security researchers. They didn't even submit the Radar bugs that lead to these patches. So while they never did substantiate their claim, it's nice that Apple went through and audited anyway just to be safe.
Here's an Apple spokeperson confirming that SecureWorks didn't contribute to these patches or identify the problems for Apple to address, and that these were the result of an internal audit by Apple of their own drivers:
http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/09/21/wireless/index.php - LaughingMan11, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4So you're calling Apple a bunch of liars then?
Secureworks is the shady one in this situation... They're the ones who were initially overstated and inaccurately described the problem on their web site, and of these "legal threats" that you claim that Apple made to Secureworks, do you have any proof or is this just another conspiracy theory? Even Secureworks no longer claims that they were strong armed by Apple... - mootymoots, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"yes because they aren't selling me anything, or have anything to lose."
LOL, I guess the fact that they run their company SECUREWORKS isn't enough? I can hear it now... "Lets go and bash Apple to get some cred for our company..." which equals cashola for them - joltguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"explain how they profit from doing security research DIRECTLY"
It's called publicity. Some companies spend millions of real dollars to to get it... SecureWorks didn't have to. Publicity has a knack for creating profit. - purdo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just because apple is vulnerable to attack doesn't mean it's not good.
Apple users stop being so touchy about these things as there are bound to be flaws in your OS. I think this release is probably a direct result of the SecureWorks thing but it doesn't mean anything. Anyone who has anything to do with software/hardware development knows that nothing is infallible. - nxtwrld, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1welcome to the world of patches ;-) ....something taht windows user know already very well.
- omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You can sell ideas too, you know.
- hurfydurfur, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@timmarhy
# file /dev/tinfoil_hat
/dev/tinfoil_hat: blockhead special (0/0)
I don't care if Apple had a hole. Lots of OSs have holes (except NetBSD which doesn't do anything ... well it does a nice firewall with pf). I think the main thing is 0 viruses, not saying a Mac virus isn't possible (there was that claim that a guy typed in his sudo password on a popup that looked like a OSX software update window) but it's less likely. I suppose Vista is addressing a lot of this but so far the massive amount of dialog boxes (even in RC1) are still there and I think it's going to be another "screw it, I'm admin" thing like 2000/XP.
But who knows the future, eh? OSX could get a million viruses/worms next year and completely trash the 5 year track record. Safe bet? Meanwhile, nimda, codered, i love you, melissa and others have nothing to do with market share, mac should have 5% of the viruses. Once I hooked up an XP box to the net outside of a firewall and .exe files appeared in my c:windows directory under a replication folder (I forget the path). It was pretty horrible. Granted, SP2 and firewalling might fix all of this I just see it as reaction to an "open by default" OS. - boogie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A word of caution when doing the Airport update: some users experienced a long wait (on the blue startup screen) YET you can hear the harddisk spin, "it is doing something". I advice users to "repair disk preferences" before they do this update and after using the disk utility, and see that they run, from time to time, the built-in maintenance scripts. (If you do not leave your Mac on at night, use a freeware app like Onyx).
I had no problems. Healthy system = healthy responsetime, and I just think Apples uses its common sense to be AHEAD of hackers, instead of waiting for the one who cries havoc...
Patches: seen it all the time on my Win machine, ONE from Apple, I can live with :) - hurfydurfur, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'd love to see some examples of the court ruling in favor of "disagreeing with their views". I don't know the specific cases you are talking about .. but let me play devil's advocate and bring up Apple vs Thinksecret. Apple sues because Thinksecret is posting trade secrets. Does the court rule automatically in Apple's favor? No. If Thinksecret posted the source code to Windows, the same would be true. Law, and that's it.
If Apple pisses away money on lawsuits that never win, that would be just stupid. The courts decide what is "too litigious". Why would they throw money away in lawsuits for "Microsoft called me names" if they never win?
Anyway, please post frivolous lawsuits you are talking about. Wikipedia doesn't have much recent stuff, like in 1988 Apple lost against MS over them copying the "Trash" concept. More recent ones have been _against_ Apple. - zaph47, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I wonder if "The Rock" updated his imac...
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Wrestler_The_Rock_Is_a_Gamer_w00t - noreturn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3You trust some "security expert" who never ended up providing any source code or any sort of live demonstration?
- Cothol, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Sute it sounds much better if apple can say, "hey look we just found this vulnerability last night and fixed it in a few hours, here's the patch!" than admit it took them a few months.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1explain how they profit from doing security research DIRECTLY?
they aren't making anymoney from selling anything in this, they are just giving away free information.
their business is mid size business network security.
all you apple nuts need to stfu about apple being so wonderful... they are a VERY litigous company, intent on sueing anyone who disagree's with their products or views. - thebrokenlight, on 10/12/2007, -10/+8See!! the Mac is not invulnerable! We told you so!!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2"So you're calling Apple a bunch of liars then?"
it's marketing spin, what the hell else do you call it?
"Even Secureworks no longer claims that they were strong armed by Apple..."
bull-*****-***** - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1the only reason the reasearchers didn't demo the vunability with apple drivers, is because apple made legal threats against them and scared them off.
"Today they released an update addressing issues they found internally."
only a naive fool believes that these patches are not related to the flaws that just happened to be brought to light by secureworks - DelMonte, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4Something definitely changed in the digg front-page promotion algorithm over the last few days... this was on the first page with only 33 diggs and one comment!
Now... just wait for the avalanche of crazy Mac Haters saying "See!! the Mac is not invulnerable! We told you so!!"
Well duh! Only sarcastic Mac haters ever stated that the Mac was invulnerable. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1yes because they aren't selling me anything, or have anything to lose.
- Cothol, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2so, you trust a mac spokesperson would tell the whole truth?
- timta2, on 10/12/2007, -8/+0You did mean to say "Apple spokesperson" right? That person would work for Apple rather than Mac right?
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