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- tnoy, on 10/11/2007, -66/+337BREAKING: Apple adds features all the other smartphones have.
- allywilson, on 10/11/2007, -14/+98But will it be able to view Openoffice.org docs as well? Will it even be able to view 2k7 docs? These are the questions we seek. Not the names for the 25 ringtones.
- neel360, on 10/11/2007, -9/+43I really don't understand what people find so fascinating in these written transcripts of the iPhone guide video...
- jeriqo, on 10/11/2007, -4/+31Watch the guided tour video from Apple:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/usingiphone/guidedtour.html - johnpaul191, on 10/11/2007, -4/+27i think the point is that rumor sites claimed the iPhone could NOT do these things. unfortunately journalists working for legitimate places seem to get wrapped up in rumor sites and spread misinformation.
i definitely read some people say that the iPhone will never break into "real business users" because it could not handle MS Office files. that was not based on any info from Apple. - bpapa, on 10/11/2007, -6/+27Lame Blog Spam. This is simply a book report of a couple of minutes out of the video that Apple released Friday. Just watch the whole dang video.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20This isn't breaking at all, but not for the reasons you state.
These features were in the guided tour. That was released days ago. This site is really slow to summarize them all. - MrSarcasm, on 10/11/2007, -7/+25Why view Openoffice? Everyone uses MS Office anyway. Besides, those who do use openoffice usually export their files using MS office formats. And hardcore OSS zealots won't buy an iPhone anyway :)
- ThomasTuttle, on 10/11/2007, -37/+53Er, this is not newsworthy at all. My Samsung SGH-A707, which is not even a smartphone (just a mid- to high-end "feature phone") can view Word, Excel, PDF, and Flash (SWF) files, run third-party applications, view Google Maps, send and receive multimedia and instant messages, play music (off a microSD card) and connect to 3G networks. I paid $40 for it, and it's even cheaper now. The iPhone is yet another step in the "it doesn't do anything useful, but it's cool because it's Apple and it costs three times what it should" direction.
- KSUdesigner, on 10/11/2007, -4/+15I like Apple as much as anybody, but do we really need articles from a blog repeating the information that we've already been told by watching the iPhone guided tour? This is blog spam and marked as such.
- lixao, on 10/11/2007, -8/+19Actually, I've owned pretty much every generation of Windows Smartphones, from the C100 to the C600 and none of them were ever able to read word or excel files. Definetely not with only factory applications...
So having this straight away is pretty nice... - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14i use open office every day. I have never once used the opendocument format. you know why? no one else does.
the main attraction of openoffice is that it's compatible with office docs. - Hangender, on 10/11/2007, -8/+17Unexpected...? Coming from Apple, we can expect that the iPhone can do anything that is within the expectation of the user. For example, using iPhone as toilet paper, tennis racket, a weapon of mass destruction, etc etc
- nlogax, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Mac.
- shortarabguy, on 10/11/2007, -11/+18I just wanted to take this opportunity to say that I have stopped caring about the iPhone. All the hype got me all worked up and then I realized that it's just a freaking phone. At very best, it'll be a really cool phone, but that's it. It's not going to redefine society, it's not even going to redefine cell phones. Asia has had on-par cell phones for a while already. If the iPhone does anything really revolutionary, it'll force companies to start importing high-tech phones to the states more quickly, but at this point I just don't care anymore. I hardly ever use it, and I only use my iPod to listen to music because, frankly, if I'm so bored outside that I have to pull out a TV show or a movie, I made a ***** error in judgment leaving the house to begin with.
- deadbaby, on 10/11/2007, -6/+12True most higher end phones can do this stuff but the GUI is terrible and the screen is small. The only thing that makes the iPhone revolutionary is its GUI -- that's no secret.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I did this on my palm treo 650 a year ago...until I realized that .doc and .xls files are boring.
- bovox, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Watching video makes sense for people who commute to work on buses, subways, trains, etc. Sometimes those commutes one-way last for 45 minutes--an ideal amount of time to watch the episode of 24 that you missed the night before. Video is also ideal when you're at the gym on one of the cardio machines. You're on those cardio machines for about an hour everyday. Watching the latest episodes of the Daily Show and Colbert Report makes your workout fly by.
I agree that over-the-air Internet will be slow for surfing, but I'm under the impression that the iPhone has WiFi that can connect to a free WiFi network? Correct? If this is the case then surfing the Internet on it will work fantastic at the very large number of coffee shops that have open WiFi. Over-the-air Internet access would be fast enough for short information transfers such as Google Maps or Reference queries when you're not really surfing the Web, but rather just want a few quick kilobytes of information. I would assume that Google Maps will be optimized to quickly submit/retrieve queries--it appears to be so, as it looks to be in its own little widget? You wouldn't have to navigate Google Maps through Safari.
Also, I think the Stock Update widget is also optimized to quickly submit/retrieve queries. Really, a person would want to be interested in his stock portfolio if he has tens of thousands of dollars in investments. Wouldn't you like to watch your money every once in a while when you're waiting in line at the local coffee shop that has free WiFi?
Also, yes there are hundreds of gadgets out there that claim to have the same basic functionalities. However, absolutely NONE have the combination of functionality+ease of use that the iPhone has. None. Ease-of-use really is the missing equation here that has kept previous smartphones from breaking into the larger market beyond technology geeks and enterprise users.
The desktop computer industry exploded in popularity and profitability once an easy to use Windows based operating system made it possible for non-technology geek, non-enterprise users, to easily use them. The same explosion of popularity will happen in the smartphone industry once people find a smartphone that also can capture the same ease of use that the Windows GUI made possible.
It is like the difference between DOS and Windows. DOS is to Windows, as Previous Smartphones is to the iPhone.
Do you honestly not see this paradigm shift in mobile based computing? - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Please, focus on driving.
- DaffyDuck, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8I don't know about others but personally, I've never had a phone that outlasted it's battery. The non-replaceable battery doesn't bother me much. The lack of 3G does and so I'll be waiting on a future version.
- locojones, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Excel!
- noeljohnhoward, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I think the point of this story is to disprove the notion that there would not be Word compatiblity. Which would have been ridiculous.
....***** - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Again, prefacing with the cusotomary "I'm an apple fan" crap: I have a phone. It's an Samsung A900. It makes phone calls. It receives phone calls. It's a cell phone. So, how is it obsolete?
- bpapa, on 10/11/2007, -1/+51 - People have been saying it won't etc etc business market since day 1 of the announcement.
2 - People continue to ignore the way that the iPhone has been marketed. When has Apple ever said "hey business customers come and use this!!!" Look at the frikkin commercials. Watch movies, find out a place to eat dinner, watch YouTube videos. Apple would probably like to sell the iPhone to business customers but that clearly isn't their targeted demographic. - sidwheat, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Strange, I've had 3 smart phones (t-mobile mda, qtek 9100, and HTC S620) in the last 3 years, all of them able to view + edit Word and Excel files...!!! Although all in EU... maybe different app available?
- DaffyDuck, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5You are putting words in my mouth. A good battery lasts a long time. Generally longer than the usual replacement time for a phone, at least in my experience.
- staffrocket, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4It's kind of funny how that video got the front page and in that vid you can see it views excel and word docs. :/
- DaffyDuck, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"i wonder how many people will get one of these but be afraid to use it in public due to iphone backlash"
"It'll be like blackberry users where you just want to smack the thing out of their hands"
Well, that phenomenon doesn't seem to have affected Blackberry sales or usage in public. You've got problems if you are afraid to use a phone in public because of what people might think about you. - Crispuk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Word!
- LoganT, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4They show you in the feature tour that you can open up word documents.
- Tippis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I just export them as PDFs...
- macsimus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@ Lassan
You've obviously never had a device running Windows Mobile smartphone edition than, you were using Windows Mobile Pocket PC edition. There's a difference... Microsoft doesn't make Word, PowerPoint, Excel, etc for the Smartphone edition. Grab a Moto Q, you'll see i'm right. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4I'm afraid I have to agree and I am typing this from a G5 tower and my mom has Apple stock. I really like Apple but I personally wish they would focus on things like fixing the finder in OS X and bringing out a cheaper mini notebook. As far as I am concerned cell phones are overpriced yuppie fashion accessories, Apple can do better in real technological innovation but continuing to make open source applications and OSs more usable like they have for BSD/Darwin/OSX and Safari/Konquerer.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Then just what the hell are you talking about? You think you could mention it in your post? We're not Maddam Cleo here.
- chungthomas, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3That is what I am thinking about too. I have a 30GB Ipod and even though I didn't manage to fill it up just yet, I am still able to stuff more than 8 GB of "stuff" onto it. And I have a phone also, however, it can't sync with Mac OSX because it is one of those Sharp Japanese phones. So I am planning on getting one of the new Sony Ericsson phones that they announced a few days back. I think these are just some things the Iphone needs to address in the coming generation if they want my money. Probably add in 3G, a bigger capacity storage (I know that they are possible, just waiting for the price to come down), and a proven reliability record. I got my ipod mini 1st gen, but it wasn't until I saw the ipod for a few generations and know that it is ok now and the technology has matured enough and the price has fallen enough to buy.
- pminze, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3First off, I did not say that it needed to just connect to Exchange, I stated that POP and IMAP would not do. There are many company's using Notes and it can not connect to that ether. No real enterprise that worries about security uses POP or IMAP. This is the real world and there are only two big boys on the block when it comes to e-mail and that is Notes and Exchange. You do not have to like ether of them it just how the world is. This not a discussion about witch mail system is better, this about iPhone and Apple making in-roads into the enterprise market.
- pminze, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3After the first wave of people buy the iPhone, the only people that will go out and spend $499 to $599 on a phone with be the enterprise as executives have to have the latest, greatest and coolest toy on the block at that moment. the iPhone is that toy. Without real access to business/enterprise e-mail, all it will do is stay is a toy. Don't get me wrong I want the iphone to make it. I am a big Mac fan and will never go back to using a windows computers as my desktop computer, but Apple has to make the leap into the big pond and respond to the enterprise not just the day to day users.
- DaffyDuck, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4For the record, Apple doesn't sell a single button mouse anymore and I fail to see the resemblance between the two.
- Stonekeeper, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6I think it's sad that business is synonymous with word and excel files.
- pminze, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3So does exchange, Please show one real enterprise that has a large e-mail system, ie. 2K users or more, that use POP or IMAP. There is no easy way to secure, manage and backup. Like I said this not a discussion about mail it is about Apple make in-roads into the enterprise market place.
- ShrimpCrackers, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Replaceable batteries are actually very common in business offices and so forth for smart phones, simply because users can use their phones throughout the day without having them docked or charging somewhere.
- estvir, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I was obviously being sarcastic.
- whatsupimphil, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Digg is rather predictable, but I love it all the same.
- chazuk, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4How many apps can you install on your iPhone? Can you change the battery without taking it apart and voiding the warranty? Does it come free with a contract? Does it support 3G? What about HSDPA? How many megapixels is the camera?
Face it. Apart from the storage space and design of its software, most of the iPhone's features were done a few years ago. - TokenUser, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4As much as I love the design of the iPhone, I am still underwhelmed by it functionality.
I'll be sticking to my Crackberry 7130e - the unlimited voice and data with Verizon, plus ability to use it as a modem at significantly faster speed than you get via EDGE just kill the iPhone in my mind.
If Apple stripped out the cellphone capabilities and call this device what it is - the iNewtonPod - they WOULD have a killer device. - lazyrussian, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3You're the idiot, and I hope you get stuck with it and then try rationalizing in your mind that it was a 'good idea'. You must have also bought a PS3 last fall...
- hiro, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Make that "a few of the features other smartphones already have"
- nreynolds, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2the MAIN attraction is that it's free
- DaffyDuck, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I have an older Windows smartphone and it cannot read Word or Excel files although it may be possible with a 3rd party app. The problem is, the screen is so small that it's not even worthwhile. It's too difficult to move around the screen once the text is at a readable size. AFAIK, Windows smartphones still have small screens in comparison to what is on the iPhone so even if it's possible, it's not as practical.
- Tippis, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3The problem is not with replacing old batteries -- it's with the inability to hot-swap batteries during the day when one runs out.
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