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- danielwsmithee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Not much different then what they have already done with Airport (802.11b), Airport Extreme (802.11g) and now Airport Extreme X2 & X4. I don't think too many people got confused by the previous versions they always had what standard it was in fine print I'm sure they will now too. Just like them using "Firewire" instead of "1394" etc., of course that was their development so they had the right to call it whatever they want.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Oops...haha. Well that also means about a 98% chance of the "iTV" launching tomorrow also...
- morcheeba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Nope, you've got either Draft-N or Pre-N because the final 802.11n spec has not been released -- it's scheduled for April, 2008. Draft-N, Pre-N, and the final spec may or may not be compatible with each other.
http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=si_wireless&message.id=28756 - benjony, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10That is called branding and a company like Apple brands every aspect of there product line. It's what keeps me employed. I'm sure they will have a practical method of keeping consumers informed of the compatibility.
- hayden.evans, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9this is still rumor, bill wiecking, the guy teaching the class is my computer teacher. i am helping him teach this workshop right now. he told me theres a really good chance though because he heard it from a high up at apple, so theres a good chance.
- morcheeba, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9802.11n, besides being faster than a and g, has a couple of cool new features:
- Uses a new part of the spectrum that is only licensed for use in Croatia. Luckily, though, the signal is strong enough that it can reach Croatia from just about any part of the world.
- Only works under water. It'll work marginally when it's raining, but only if you send very short packets. - ez12a, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6hmm no wonder Apple snuck some draft-N chips into their latest computer models with the Core 2 Duo. C2D macbooks, MBPs, and iMacs have poorly hidden draft N cards that are in "hibernation" or, not being used in OSX as of now. However, Draft-N D-Link drivers installed under Windows (bootcamp) have been reported to work.
- hayden.evans, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7bury this
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8apple could employ a non-standardized method and rely on airport updates to become standards-compliant once the standard is finalized.
- Ransomowris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"Airport Extreme X2? X4? 600 mb/s data rates, greater range, MIMO, diversity, beam focusing, and more."
Beam Focusing? Interesting. - mogus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Does that imply beam steering, as in a phased-array of antennas? I wonder how many connections they could support if they did that. It would be quite a feat if they did, but pretty cool.
- hungarianhc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Even if we get iTV tomorrow, to keep me 100% satisfied, I really need to get some NAS (network attached storage) support as well....
- Sandtiger, on 10/12/2007, -11/+15GREAT catch
- ElBob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5How is anyone digging this comment down, its straight from the horses mouth! The man that wrote this article is literally less than 20 feet from him, and we've both known him for 4 years.
- SonofMaug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The newest iMacs have 802.11n cards in them, IIRC.
- nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yes at least the MacBook Pros and iMacs do have them. I don't know why you're being buried.
- GregR, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6"Apple needs to stop confusing the consumer by constantly choosing alternative names for devices and technologies."
Apple's descriptions are pretty clear, unlike naming schemes that set out to confuse the consumer, such as the USB screwup.
First there was USB and then there was USB 2, but they were re-branded to totally confuse the consumer. - danielwsmithee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ Funky
You are right Sony was part of the technical working group that developed 1394 however Apple was the company who started the TWG. The other companies were TI, DEC, and IBM. Sony was a smaller contributor and decided they also wanted a powerless bus i.e. the i.Link. Apple receives the overwhelming majority of the royalty fees from patent for the 1394 bus.
I still get confused by the USB names there is like the standard speed, "Full Speed", and "High Speed". Everytime I here "Full Speed" I think it is full speed but is not longer since 2.0. Confusing. - johnpaul191, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5@KWhat
it does matter if your GF is using an internal AirPort card, and not a PCI card that sticks out the side. the original Airport card is not the same physical shape/size/etc as the airport extreme card. if she has a macbookpro/powerbook she could get most any card that uses the external slot.... but why not find one that drops inside and you don't have to remove every time you put your machine in a bag. - afinemetsfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If Apple is releasing any wireless devices, it will turn up in an FCC search, no one has found anything.
- itsbetteronamac, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Are both Airport Extreme X4 & X2 being released? Or just one or the other? God Apple just call it "Airport Extreme N," your logic even baffles me on this one...and I am a fan boy.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So have we, only ours has not been turned on by OS X. If we boot windows, we get wireless N.
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No, only the Core 2 Duos.
- yabos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You know it supports n because when booted in Windows people have already installed draft-n drivers and gotten it to work. All we need is Apple to send out an Airport update in the next few days. If the dual band can acually do 600Mb/s I'll ***** my pants.
- iLemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Its much easier for a non-tech person to read wireless network documentation if it is as simple as airport or airport extreme. Its much easier then reading IEEE 80211.PRE-N. I just wish they would use bird names. That would be hilarious.
- bryguy000, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Huh... who would have thought to look at the courses for Mac scoops. Nice work.
- longofest, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Personally, I'm still not convinced this is what they're calling it. Yeah, it looks all well and good, but the presenter isn't from Apple. He is some teacher from Hawaii. How would he be privy to supposedly secret Apple info?
- totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3nice catch, thirdjal! didn't even know anyone bothered to read those descriptions :D
- hungarianhc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow how the heck did nobody catch that?! GREAT catch!
- zdiggler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Hopefully they use some standardized labeling on the Ethernet jacks on it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"draft-N chips into their latest computer models"
*Crosses fingers hoping standard won't change and I get this new Airport Extreme X2* - SpacedCowboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4@zybch
Yeah, but only non-Apple users... Who cares about them ?
[sigh] It's a joke. - ElBob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Read Hayden's comment. Bill knows wireless better than anyone else.
- Rodzirra, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Sorry. I'm dumb.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Don't some newer macbooks have 802.11n cards in them? Are those part of this Airport Extreme X2/X4?
- yabos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It would be stupid for them not to include support for it with 802.11n so close to release at the time the MB/MBP/iMacs came out.
- billbradford, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I just wonder if the Airport cards in the first-gen Core Duo iMacs are firmware-upgradeable.
- tricab, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3maybe X2 and X4 are just internal codenames or tech jargon that normal geeks like us won't understand?
Come on, do you seriously think they'll name a product Airport Extreme X2 or X4. I mean, whats the difference?
Or, maybe ill eat my own words. - bklyn112, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1From Apple's site description of the MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo models:
"Built-in 54-Mbps AirPort Extreme (802.11g); built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR"
How do you know it's draft n? - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Because people who ordered those machines in Nov sometime posted screenshots of the System Profiler showing that they have Draft-n cards. It was reported by more than one person so imo it's reliable info.
Apple frequently points out that their specs are a minimum requirement. When they do those silent upgrades you get something similar happening. In this case Apple will push new software and drivers that use the Draft-N features of the cards and to the uninformed it will seems like their machine just got a major upgrade, when really the capability has been there all along. Not exactly a shabby plan either. - cynicist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's taking so long because everyone has to agree on the proposal. After all we wouldn't want several incompatible standards floating around... (major hint to those idiots making draft n routers/adapters)
- rootadmen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1if only all apple leeks were that easy to catch...
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@daniel
huh. didn't know that apple started the TWG. interesting to see DEC in that group, although i must say i'm not surprised to see TI in the mix. - pb3623, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Burying as inaccurate, now that "Apple, Inc's" cat is out of the bag,
- ElBob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1god damn it get off my digg
- MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6Well, they renamed the DVD+-RW drive to Superdrive, so why not? Next we'll be seeing iSuperProcessors instead of whatever Intel names their next chips.
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4@daniel
apple co-developed that with sony. theirs, however, isn't powered (although fully compatable) and is called "ilink". - baron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I posted that on the AppleNova forums yesterday...
I'm glad you read that and then posted it here, congrats to you. - xmetal2001, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'm sorry. I usually enjoy stories like this, but I just don't see the significance. This is just TOO insignificant for me
- hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Major change? How is 802.11n that much different than 802.11b and g from a wireless networking perspective as opposed to, say, the perspective of any greater capacity network allowing in turn higher bandwith services, or possibly even simply from a deployment perspective which is the aspect slated to be talked about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/802.11#802.11n
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