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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It's like people suing fast food restaurants for making them fat. No told these idiots to turn the volume all the way up, in fact it's been long known thatprolonged exposure to loud noise can damage hearing.
I've been four or more way form people have been able to hear their music blaring out of their iPod. I have no sympathy for these people, they're idiots. - CreativeGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4To the complete moron who thinks Apple SHOULD get sued in the hopes of bringing down the iPod... all this will serve to do is jack the price up to cover the cost of littigation. Don't be an ignorant ass, silly lawsuits like this are what needs to go down.
- MadceltUK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Have Sony ever been sued for this? Walkmans have been doing this for years.
Seriously though, the blame culture is just getting ridiculous. Take responsibility for yourselves people. - The_Mule, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3 As an Apple stockholder, hearing about this lawsuit has caused me great emotional distress. I think I may have to sue this guy.
- SvobodaIT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Wow people are stupid!!! What happened to personal responsibility?
- turing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well, I agree that the lawsuit is stupid. The real problem (and this applies to basically all "portable" music) is that while out and about there is often a great deal of ambient noise. In the subway, gym, or bus there is always a lot of noise that needs to be drowned out in order to listen to one's music. So, people who would normally listen to music at safe and reasonable levels in a quiet area end up turning up the volume to unsafe levels in order to drown out the ambient noise.
The solution for this is to throw your stock earbuds in the trash, and buy some In Ear Monitors. Etymotic makes some great ones, and Shure, Westone, and Ultimate Ears also make some good products too. IEMs offer vastly superior noise isolation to any other solution (i.e. noise cancelling headphones which are a huge scam for a variety of reasons) and those made by Etyomtic boast some of the most accurate frequency response of any headphone on the market.
If you don't feel like shelling out the dough for some IEMs (and these companies have different tiered product lines at different price points...it shouldn't hurt your wallet too much to get good sound and isolation) then please just remember that it is not a good idea to up the volume past what you would normally listen to in a quiet environment. Tinnitus and hearing loss is no fun for anyone. Happy listening. - adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm going to start a class action law suite against his parents for bringing this dumbass into the world. They have clearly polluted our gene pool, and have yet to do anything to rectify the problem.
- commiecat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not much else to say that hasn't already been pointed out. This is why we have stupid warning labels. I think it was a bash.org quote that read something along the lines of, "I'm not saying we punish people for stupidity, but why not take the warning labels off things and let the problem solve itself?"
Seriously. Somebody should take a bat to this guy's legs and make note that his legs didn't explicitly say, "Bones will break if struck with blunt object". People these days...
-commiecat - Craig1394, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If any manufacturer lowers the maximum volume to a level I think is unsatisfactory, I will just build myself a headphone booster amp with a couple LM386 Op-Amps. This lawsuit is as retarded as that old McDonald hot coffee crap. I play my music loud sometimes. Any hearing damage is my fault and no one elses. Actually, I'll bet I could find a Lawyer that would let me sue myself for hearing loss. If this lawsuit results in a judgement against Apple, I will seriously have to contemplate renouncing my U.S citizenship. Personal Responsibility, Learn it, Live it, Love It!
- happyfrenchy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1We heard about this possibility here first.
http://notmtv.tv/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=37
"Not Mainstream Typical Videos" feels that it's important to make sure
that our government never creates a law which limits the volume, or decibel(dB), in our Mp3 players and other portable devices. Soon, all of our portable devices could possibly be regulated by legislation. It has already happened in France. Is this something we want? NOTMTV.TV feels that manufacturers should not be regulated. But at the same time, consumers should be made more aware of the real dangers these devices present. Especially considering young children, who tend to push their volumes to the maximum, simply because they don't know better. - LooterMcBeer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How do i get in on this i listen to mine at full volume all day long then i get into my car and crank it up also and theres 3200 watts pushing to it anyone know a lawyer that will want to sue Diamond Audio for me also?
Idiots................... - bluehouse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think stupidity should be punished with sterilization. Suing Apply over your hearing loss is definitely stupid along with rioting after sporting events and a whole list of things too long to get into here
- Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This kind of crap is why we need "plaintiff pays all costs if he loses"-style tort reform in this country.
- moleboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It says not to turn the music all the way up in the iPod pamphlet thing. This is why I've lost all hope for humanity. Well not ALL hope, just hope for stupid people.
- potifer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I for one think this lawsuit is a good idea. How can people, youths in particular, be expected to know listening to their favorite music loud (as Apple suggests with their advertising) can actually cause physical harm? It's very irresponsible of such a large company to do this, and I think they should have their pants sued right off! I mean, sometimes my ears ring from the darn thing!
-Angry iPod user. - swsmith50, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I remember a thing called personal responsibility. It is a concept that seems to have died in America.
Check out this site: https://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/case/ipod_earphones , which is basically a bunch of predatory lawyers trying to profit from something we should all be aware of. Wow, who'd of thought loud music being pumped directly into your ears causes damage. - donsherio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is plain stupid. Common Sense! i mean honestly, I can clearly hear my music from my Creative MP3 player just fine at a normal, middle ranged volume! I dont see why people like to shut out the world with music to the point where you really cant understand wat the hell ur music is saying cause ur just grimmacing from the intense noise. but i mean, who cares, ur letting eveyrone around you hear your music too! And what do they mean iPod headphones are designed badly? Dont regular store bought headphones do the exact same thing? Pump soundwaves into your ears? Maybe its just me and my low tollerance for Ultra loud noise, but cmon. Britney Spears at a low volume is still Britney Spears at High Volume, u just cant hear after that.
- FenrisUlf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Does this remind anyone else of "The Jerk"?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2oops
*I've been four or more feet away form people and have been able to hear their music blaring out of their iPod. (an edit feature would be nice) - wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There have been stories about potential hearing loss in personal audio player users. I predicted that sooner or later somebody was going to get sued. Apple is the obvious target. I don't think that this will succeede, there are just too many other noise sources that could cause the hearing loss.
There is a warning in the packaging with the iPod. I don't see how the plaintiff can win. And I very much doubt Apple will settle. Too much potential downside if they do. I think the attorneys in this case bought themselves a loser. - koach, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OMG! If this guy wins...i'm suing water for making me wet! Those bastards!
- Warptera, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What an idiot...
- SteveR4376, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just another ***** with a dream of getting rich in court.
- mrhaines, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Its the McDonalds coffee thing all over again. The American legal system is so ***** up.
- catchneyez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow! Someone should sue Creative, cause their sound cards have so much power that if you turn the volume all the way up and stick a speaker to your ear while playing your new, killer Kenny G CD and sit there for about 5 hours... it may cause hearing damage!
What freakin tard~ I hope someone kicks his ass. - Steaminx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Whatever happened to personal responsibility?
- indianricer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I say we confiscate his ipod and check for illegal music and then sue him back for more.
- -neon-, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1God... Not again....
- boozedrinker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Let's start a digg alliance for the protection of Apple from being sued by idiots like this. You don't have to like Apple to join - just know how to operate a volume control. Apple doesn't deserve this crap - Potable stereos have een around for years and years in tape,radio and CD formats - give me a break.
Digg ALLIANCE! DIGG ALLIANCE! - herogear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The problem with this argument is it makes the plaintiff look like an irresponsible, ignorant child. One of the biggest gripes I have with a majority of people is their inability to take personal responsibility for their actions, good or bad. This man hurt his ears by playing the iPod too loud - should that mean the iPod should have software put in, like in France, to limit the decibel levels? I don't believe so - mp3 players are starting to become more common in home entertainment setups as well, so the option of being able to play something loud is just that - an option. Practice some responsibility and don't abuse it when it's inches from your ear.
- MossFly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow people are stupid!!! What happened to personal responsibility? - SvobodaIT
Thank You! I hate dumb people! - Coreguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This sue case may have a "Warning Effect",which is positive.
Nowadays,many people listen to music in high volume and pay little attention to their hearing.This case may let them(include me) know the serious result.
dugg,understand the poor man - SquisherX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hey, if I put a white screen on my computer, jam up the contrast and press my nose up against the screen for a few weeks, can I sue Dell for not limiting the brightness and contrast to an idiot proof level?
- eddiddiums, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Welcome to Sony circa 15 years ago. If you ask me, Apple needs to seek legal advice from Sony on this one as they had to deal with the same crap with the Walkman.
- happyfrenchy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Watch the evidence!
It's important to make sure that our government never creates a law which limits the volume, or decibel(dB), in our Mp3 players and other portable devices. Soon, all of our portable devices could possibly be regulated by legislation.
http://notmtv.tv/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=37 - pussyWagon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So now Apple's great package design will be adonred with multiple labels all over it
"Lower the volume or you'll blow your ears out!"
"Please do not steal music!"
"Do not place earbuds directly in ear"
"Make sure you do not enjoy your iPod, it may make you have a nice day" - ehmjay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0THIS IS SO STUPID! No body told these idiots to crank up their deathmetal. if you go deaf from listening to your iPod, its your own damn fault. gawd.
- Luminaris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Huh? I can't hear you guys ...
- hipsterelitist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Apple needs to lose this. They already backed down on it in the EU, so they have knowledge that their product (mainly the earbuds) suck. They should start shipping ipods with better headphones even if that will hurt their exceedingly large profits on ipods.
- 5blocksfree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0rkstar wrote: And let's not forget the auto industry! cars too are "inherently defective in design and are not sufficiently adorned with adequate warnings" about what the dangers of maxing them out as well.
In many cases, the autos (especially the boomcars) are MADE defective by their owners. As for their occupants and their hearing loss, they deserve what they have coming to them. As someone who has had to endure the aural effluent from these things on a regular basis, I consider it a form of poetic justice. - gambl0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I FOUND A FINGER IN MY IPOD!"
Best comment I've ever read on digg. - nfg05, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Although the iPod is more popular than other types of portable music players, its ability to cause noise-induced hearing isn't any higher, experts said."
That's a classic line right there, suprised nobody else has picked up on it yet. - angrykeyboarder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0To the guy (and his lawyer) who are initiating this lawsuit:
So tell me, then you idiot...
* What steps did Sony (of CD Walkman fame) and other companies take to prevent hearing loss among users of their portable personal CD players?
* What steps did Sony (of [Cassette] Walkman fame) and other companies take to prevent hearing loss among users of their portable personal cassette players before that?
* What steps did (or have) companies like Kenwood, Pioneer, Sony, JVC, Phillips, Technics, Panasonic and others take(n) to prevent hearling loss among users of their stereo receivers and amplifiers for the home? That equipment has been sold for decades. It's still being sold. High Volume on a 150+ watt per channel Amplifier or Reciever (for a few hours each day) will do more damage than an iPod.
* Why is Apple unique when it comes to hearing loss caused by idiots who turn the volume up too loud?
* Why stop at Apple? Sue Apple's competitors! Sue the makers of home audio equipment too! After all, one can go deaf using any of this stuff, especially if they're a dumb ***** like you are.
* Guess what? You can turn the volume down. you dumb ****! - STKD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Waitwaitwait... Listening to incredibly loud music can damage your hearing?
Shocked I am. Shocked.
It's like smokers starting up lawsuits against tobacco firms. YOU make a conscious decision to do something obviously stupid, in full knowledge that it IS stupid, the consequences should fall on that person and that person alone. Idiots are idiots. They shouldn't profit from the fact. - hayden.evans, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0o yeah i was walking down the street one day listening to my ipod and i tripped and broke my leg. I'm going to sue apple now!
***** idiots. - Phoenixfury, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Do they still make Red Rider BB Guns? I want to sue because they can potentially "put your eye out!"
- SmAcKaSs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Here is a question to ponder:
Any sound above 90dB can hurt hearing after a certain exposed period, should these companies that make audio products make it so their products do not allow levels higher than that? OR should they post warnings?
My thoughts are that Warning labels do no good in society, people read them and go, "yeah, duh, i knew that" and then do what it warns anyways.
However, the loudness is what we all want anyways, so making the products not able to go to those levels is not the answer. Gotta love that feeling of loud music.
(Maybe we should just let people use there brains a little; go ahead, leave the labels off.) - diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Turn the music down, how stupid are people these days? Its directly in your ear!
- foohookups311, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Turn down the ***** volume dumb ass. Why don't you just sue god for bringing you into this earth you pathetic piece of leaching scum."
hahaha Amen to that brother! - blasphemer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0According to the article "Apple was forced to pull the iPod from store shelves in France and upgrade software on the device to limit sound to 100 decibels, but has not followed suit in the United States, according to the complaint".
Maybe this guy should just move to france -
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