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- magixx2, on 07/13/2008, -9/+215It's not a bug, it's a feature.
- e2superman, on 07/13/2008, -20/+191Customer Feedback: New Screens are yellow
Apple PR to Engineers: Is this for real?
Engineers to PR: Yes, Operations decided to go with these because they were cheaper
PR meeting of heads: Ok guys we need to justify this
PR to Customers: New screens are yellow to improve "warmness" and user experience.
Lesson: Always put a good spin on a PR problem. - E3L1, on 07/13/2008, -14/+173and if Apple says it, it must be for the best...
- Zalyster, on 07/13/2008, -6/+136Apple users? WANTING a "blue screen"?
Digg users is this irony y/n? - BossKey, on 07/13/2008, -8/+108This is a white point color temperature setting (confirmed by Apple). If the iPhone allowed you to customize its display calibration, you could shift it as needed, just like you can on monitors. Televisions are usually a higher Kelvin value which looks more blue, while monitors calibrated for print graphics tend to be a lower Kelvin value to match a piece of paper. I don't have an iPhone, but I'd bet that if you put both the old and new iPhones next to each other and on top of a typical piece of white paper, the new iPhone would probably match the paper better and the original would appear too blue. If the Phone 3G is set to a white point of 6500 Kelvin then it will be more "white" and the old one will definitely be considered too blue.
People are saying the new one is "yellow" only because they are using the "too blue" one as their baseline. - TexanPsycho, on 07/13/2008, -2/+87Comparison: http://images.appleinsider.com/iphone-yellow-tint- ...
- mediamaker, on 07/13/2008, -8/+73sweet feature
- rajun50, on 07/13/2008, -8/+70as far as that picture goes... the yellow one looks like *****.
- morphie, on 07/13/2008, -6/+56It's true. The colors are more natural. You can definitely see that with video's which always felt "blueish" to me on the iPod Touch.
- Nothlit, on 07/13/2008, -7/+53This so-called "tint" is not noticeable at all unless you put it side-by-side with an old iPhone. People are just blowing the whole thing out of proportion.
- Alathea, on 07/13/2008, -2/+45Wow. Someone can spend 400 on a phone, and suddenly they are a graphics designer with a perfect visual pallet, or a display engineer. I should go stay at a Holiday Inn Express to catch up.
- maximatron, on 07/13/2008, -25/+66[generic negative comment from a poor retard who can't afford an iPhone]
- PainToad, on 07/13/2008, -6/+45I want my monitor to be yellow too! Apple says it's good for my eyes
- acevoncash, on 07/13/2008, -24/+60yeah, sure its yellow compared to the old one... but temperature differences on displays is nothing new. the difference between a macs standard white point and a pcs white point is crazy, much less the difference between a crt and an lcd. So they decided to go wit ha slightly different white point. Stop bitching. Your eyes adjust in a couple seconds. You'd never know the difference unless you had both phones next to you. and RTFA apple didn't say it was a feature. ITs not a defect either. It was a design choice. everybody just STFU.
- Acglaphotis, on 07/13/2008, -0/+34Were the no sarcasm tags sarcastic?
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -28/+61It's not a bug it's a feature. Hoorayyy!!!
Apple is the new Microsoft. - waydee, on 07/13/2008, -21/+49Nobody cares.
buried as iphonespam - inactive, on 07/13/2008, -0/+25I think you mean "enhanced" vga cable.
- trunks333, on 07/13/2008, -7/+31If its deliberate, then why are some 3G iphones normal? are they the ones that are defective?
- Angostura, on 07/13/2008, -1/+24Was image properly white-balanced?
- Radan, on 07/13/2008, -3/+22That is most likely because the white point of the actual picture is set to match the old iPhone. In reality, the old iPhone is as much "too blue compared to the new one" as the new iPhone is "too yellow compared to the old one".
- skyshock1, on 07/13/2008, -1/+20You can if you have a faulty VGA cable.
- bjornski, on 07/13/2008, -0/+16You seriously can't see the difference?
You need a new monitor.
/I like the old one better - acevoncash, on 07/13/2008, -3/+19finally someone who understands that white is never perfect on todays displays, and that a concessions have to be made about exactly where the white point is.
- DraxusD, on 07/13/2008, -0/+15Working as intended.
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -4/+19I think Steve's actual words were something like "HEY PR Dept. You guys just feed those ***** cash cow fanboys some line about that yellow ***** being an improvement, and while you're at it come up with some excuse for the recent MobileMe and iTunes *****, and BRING ME MY LATTE!!! STEVE WANT LATTE!!"
- dustinmacdonald, on 07/13/2008, -1/+15Seriously the iPhone 3G screen looks so much better in person than the old iPhone did. The only way you're going to notice a yellow tint is by comparing them side by side.
- gogog0, on 07/13/2008, -18/+31blue tint always looks better
- exomni, on 07/13/2008, -4/+17The complete ignorance about display technology in these comments amaze me. Cool and Warm LCD profiles have always been around, and improve white-balance clarity in color profiles.
Changing the colour profile to warm rather than cool is a good step. It clarifies text and brings out colours in pictures and album art. If Apple would give us the option to customize our colour profiles, that would be awesome, but that would just be an extreme amount of icing on the cake, as most phones don't have such options. - lebatte, on 07/13/2008, -1/+13Awesome explanation. I also figured that it's not that the new one is too yellow, it's just that the old one is too blue.
But I don't nor will I ever own an iPhone. - exomni, on 07/13/2008, -0/+10Not really. But you should be able to switch between "cool" and "warm" LCD profiles.
- Phil13, on 07/13/2008, -7/+17People... blowing things out of proportion...? just to make Apple look bad?
Never!
(If only I had a penny every time that was done.) - ATLien74, on 07/13/2008, -0/+10iGetit
- JKVM, on 07/14/2008, -0/+10So called tint? My wife and I both got iPhone 3G's yesterday. Hers looks warmer then the 2G, mine just looks YELLOW. Much more yellow than hers. Much of the detail in dark colors is lost, the greys look brown. It is anything but "not noticeable." Even in direct sunlight, the difference is significant. So much so that I was unhappy with the look of the phone as soon as I turned it on, which I didn't do until I got home, since Apple spent 2 hours fighting at&t to activate my phone... I'm going to wait until the lines are gone and then I'm taking it back. Hopefully they can find one for me without a defectively "warm" screen. The email app should not look like a yellow legal pad.
- brundlefly76, on 07/14/2008, -5/+15I love it when Apple pisses on my iPhone and tells me its raining
- 666dorado, on 07/13/2008, -3/+12it's jaundice!!
- Galaxylander, on 07/13/2008, -1/+10People need to realize that the camera is enhancing the tint by unimaginably huge amounts. I've seen both in person and the iPhone 3G looks far better and has more accurate colour in videos and photos.
You can only see the difference if you put them side by side. Of course people are going to think the 'first gen' was right- but neither are 'right.' They're just different, and technically the warmer toned screens are more accurate. - inactive, on 07/14/2008, -1/+10http://soiland.no/gallery/d/3514-2/andrev_nerd.jpg
"you're obviously completely ignorant of how and LCD display's colour temperature profile works" - DarkDx, on 07/14/2008, -0/+8IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S TRUTH
- xrmb, on 07/13/2008, -3/+11In my opinion a bluish LCD looks better for desktop apps... while for video and pictures (and music :) the yellowish looks better, but a device for both should be neutral...
- SiSurfer, on 07/13/2008, -2/+10http://macnugget.org/photos/cars/feature
- WoollyMittens, on 07/13/2008, -3/+11If they were optional settings, I'd chose the left one. But the right one is not unacceptable if that's just the manufactured default.
The new iphone's screen is probably cheaper and almost certainly of a different make. That Apple spokesperson should not try to lie like this. We can take the truth.
I wouldn't say the screen of my macbook pro is inferior, but when I put it next to a cinema display it seems more yellow and less vibrant too. LCD colours are all over the place, when comparing any two devices. - xXMetalJesusXx, on 07/14/2008, -0/+7omg english language *****
- rnawky, on 07/13/2008, -1/+8Perhaps an option to adjust the temperature?
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -15/+22You Apple Haters are really starting to sound like insecure guys with penis envy and you're making me want to buy one even more, not less.
- logandurand, on 07/14/2008, -0/+7You would think that the color options would be under the user's control, not Apple's.
- skyshock1, on 07/13/2008, -3/+10Oh yikes, that's pretty frickin' ugly. I reject Apple's reasoning that the new screen was done to look better.
- DeFex, on 07/13/2008, -4/+11yellow is the new white
- exomni, on 07/13/2008, -2/+9Yeah, I noticed that when comparing an old one with the 3G. Much much better than the blue tint, my friends noticed all the colors looked much crisper and bright, and then one of them pointed out there was almost a yellow tint in the white colors. Plus, it makes it a little more visible in the sun.
It's the little things like this that count towards good product design. - secondfiddle, on 07/13/2008, -6/+13Cryphone.
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