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- banmaster, on 04/08/2008, -8/+38Ah Apple. Everything 'just works'.
- noisymime, on 04/08/2008, -2/+28Because being told that your backup isn't officially supported (Despite the fact that it worked out of the box) is exactly what people want to hear when their primary hdd has just died.
- brstilson, on 04/08/2008, -0/+15Isn't the whole wireless backup thing what Steve Jobs was touting in that Keynote like it was the second coming?
- Aitese, on 04/08/2008, -1/+12No one is saying it won't work...it's just not supported, so if anything goes wrong they won't break thier backs to help you.
- kyeetza, on 04/08/2008, -1/+10Apple would rather you just buy Time Capsule
http://www.apple.com/timecapsule/ - Spuy767, on 04/08/2008, -1/+9I've got money that says you don't, in fact, own a macinosh.
- inactive, on 04/08/2008, -6/+14This basically means that they didn't fix that bug that caused total data loss in the event of lost power to the AirPort. They undid the coverup feature that stopped users from doing it and are saying it's unsupported so they don't have to deal with the consequences.
This is well and fine, I see it as a meet-in-the-middle situation. That is only if Apple had acknowledged this when the AirPorts first became able to use this feature. - inactive, on 04/08/2008, -2/+9Great Scott!
- supermanred, on 04/08/2008, -0/+6I just did a full time machine restore from my airport disk with usb drive attached (I messed my system up with a ***** up Ubuntu install)
I just pulled the usb drive off the airport disk (where it was backing up wirelessly) and plugged it into my macbook.
About 2 hours later or so, it had restored the around 160gig back to my macbook, now working flawlessly.
It may be "unsupported" but it bloody works. - Kelmon, on 04/08/2008, -0/+6Yes, and that's one of the reasons this saga is so annoying. Steve said that this would work (during the WWDC2007 keynote, I think) and the AEBS product page when it was released also said that it would work with Time Machine. When it turns out that it didn't we didn't hear a thing from Apple apart from confirmation that Time Machine doesn't support AirDisks. No explanation and no apology. That's what makes me mad.
- inactive, on 04/08/2008, -3/+9It DOES work - just not supported by apple.
- assassinmaids, on 04/08/2008, -0/+6I think that was for another product.
- GCarden, on 04/08/2008, -3/+8Who wants to bet some programmer "flipped a switch" in the code when no one was looking?
- phoomp, on 04/08/2008, -1/+6Apple has been disappointing me at every turn this year. There's the "no TimeMachine on AEBS" issue, all the bugs in AppleTV Take 2, and the "not for free iPod Touch updates".
- GLMonkey, on 04/08/2008, -1/+5You didn't know? They took the iFlux Capacitor and attached it to the iDelorean, then they added 1.21 Gigawatts and Presto! the Apple Time Machine. Remember...The iFlux Capacitor, it's what makes Apple Time Travel Possible.
- MacParrot, on 04/08/2008, -0/+4I guess the problem for most people is that though this is unsupported, it was a feature advertised for Leopard before it came out which then disappeared. What I don't understand is why it reported works with a Time Capsule, but won't with a USB attached drive to an Airport Extreme. If Apple is going to come out with a NAS (Time Capsule), then why cripple the same functionality in an AE? Unless there's something I'm not seeing here?
- fkr3, on 04/08/2008, -3/+6I think the submitter forgot the actual link:
http://db.tidbits.com/article/9547
Only Engadget could regurgitate an article about a company and two of their products without linking to the company or their products, only discretely linking to the article they're summarising, but finding 7 of their own pages of garbage to link to. - inactive, on 04/08/2008, -4/+7Anyone else not Mac savvy enough to think that this was going to be some sort of UFO/sci-fi article?
- larryg2k3, on 04/08/2008, -1/+4Time Machine is free, you're thinking about Time Capsule, which is a 500gb/1tb hardrive added to an airport express.
- Kelmon, on 04/08/2008, -0/+3A built-in modem is pretty useless if you don't connect to your ISP using the type of modem that is built-in, be it cable, ADSL or even dial-up. I'm honestly happier to have the wireless router without a modem so that I can change provider without having to buy a new router.
- boogie, on 04/08/2008, -0/+3"tidBITS's Glenn Fleishmann is reporting that Apple's confirmed to him that ...." = hearsay.
Next. - Kelmon, on 04/08/2008, -1/+3AEBS is not the same as Time Capsule. I can only assume that whatever problem they encountered with the AEBS that prompted the withdrawal of the Time Machine support was fixed for Time Capsule and that perhaps whatever issue the AEBS is suffering from can't be solved by software alone. What annoys me most about this issue is that Apple has never said sorry for this or offered to resolve the situation. Even the "solution" that appeared last month now appears to be nothing more than a mistake. I don't believe that the AEBS has been purposely crippled to generate sales of the Time Capsule device but I do think that it wasn't fit for purpose, and that's just as bad.
- althe3rduww, on 04/09/2008, -0/+2Except that Apple Supports you using a USB connected hard drive to time capsule. So what now Spyuy767? They support the same freaking device with a USB connected hard drive. The AEBS and time capsule are no different in terms of the router and the software.
- MacParrot, on 04/08/2008, -0/+2If you HAD an Apple Time Machine, you would have already known it.
- supermanred, on 04/08/2008, -0/+2The instructions above are *****. You just plug your bloody USB drive into the AIrport Extreme router and use Time Machine as normal.
It just works. - supermanred, on 04/08/2008, -0/+2Yeah it is. Apple fully supports time machine on AEBS.
- Balanced, on 04/08/2008, -0/+2Check the formatting: TIme Machine is picky about a few things with the disk formatting. It needs a particular partition map setup, for one.
- inactive, on 04/08/2008, -0/+2Not this time, maybe next time.
Welcome to the machine.
Floyd FTW.... - undersky, on 04/08/2008, -1/+2the article itself reads like some kind of ufo article too, he he, now you mention.
- Balanced, on 04/08/2008, -1/+2Modem? Archaic.
- eavesdrop, on 04/08/2008, -0/+1would you like to place a bet? I accept paypal.
- CJinNC, on 04/08/2008, -0/+1I can manually find the disk I have connected to my airport, but when I try to get time machine app to find it, no go. Is this why? Huh? Where am I?
- inactive, on 04/09/2008, -0/+1Dear Apple and all other tech companies: support the ***** you say you will support before launch time. Don't pull the plug the day the product ships. Don't try to make a half-assed fix and then say it's "unsupported." Just do what you said you were going to.
If the Time Capsule can do it, the AirPort Extreme should be able to. If it can't then they should do the honorable thing and let people exchange their APE's (that were bought in anticipation of Time Machine) for Time Capsules.
This is one time when I think a class action would make sense. - kufflink, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1More and more, I think marketing is running (ruining) Apple. They are manipulating software deliverables to meet their hardware sales goals. They want to sell Time Capsule, so they artificially cripple Time Machine. There might be backlash within the developers group, in which they publish software that enables users. Miscommunication might be the underlying issue, too. Marketing is having to rebuild the dike by claiming that some feature is "unsupported."
- FKnight, on 04/08/2008, -0/+1"Steve" :D
- ShadowdStranger, on 04/08/2008, -1/+2Beat me to it :(
- Ap0x, on 04/08/2008, -4/+5 Connect the drive and format it HFS+ for this example I will name it backup
Set it up as the Time Machine drive once formatted.
Go into system preferences and turn off Time Machine.
Go into [your NAS] and create a share, for this example I will name it backups.
Open terminal
type the following commands
cd /
cd Volumes
ls -a -l (make note of .00 filename)
cp ./backup/.00filename ./backups/.00filename
cp ./backup/.com.apple.timemachine.supported ./backups/.com.apple.timemachine.supported
sudo umount backup
sudo umount backups
then [in your NAS] rename backups volume to backup and connect to [your NAS] through finder afp://IPADDRESS choose backup volume to connect to
Relaunch TimeMachine… - Kelmon, on 04/08/2008, -2/+3Apparently even stuff that's not supposed to work, works.
- supermanred, on 04/08/2008, -0/+1I agree with the "not for free ipod touch updates" being buggy, but time machine works fine on AEBS. Just plug in a usb drive to your AEBS or the USB hub you have plugged into your AEBS. Make sure its a powered hub.
- thepuma77, on 04/08/2008, -4/+5i think you forgot "/sarcasm"
- chotty, on 04/10/2008, -0/+0Huh?
Mac OS X Leopard is $109.99 at Amazon. Please explain how this is in any way, shape or form "a little over-priced".
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Mac-Version-10-5-1-Leo ... - Kelmon, on 04/08/2008, -1/+1It no doubt will work but just don't expect assistance from Apple should you encounter any issues. Unsupported simply means that support won't be delivered by Apple in the event of problems but it may well work. For example, it seems to work for me using an Iomega MiniMax drive but the performance is a bit rubbish over an 802.11g network.
- bradleyland, on 04/08/2008, -2/+1I think the sarcasm was obvious. Do you say "sarcasm" after you say (as in speak) something sarcastic as well?
- FKnight, on 04/08/2008, -3/+2See? It "just works"
LOL - supermanred, on 04/08/2008, -3/+2Uh, this article is false. It works flawlessly.
- MacParrot, on 04/08/2008, -3/+2Dammit Janet!
- judicar, on 04/08/2008, -2/+1Where's the documentation on Apple's website that states this? Until I see that it's just "some guy" told "some other guy", where'd he get his info from? Mac Genius? AppleCare? Then that's just rumor.
- cczaphod, on 04/08/2008, -5/+4The Genius in Dallas told me that the hard drive I was buying would work with the latest firmware!
Damn, Damn, Damn.
I do have my Airport on a UPS though....... - jimjoke, on 04/08/2008, -2/+1[mandatory comment about Vista]
- inactive, on 04/08/2008, -2/+0Yes, we know all of that. But what we really need to know is if this uses the iMr. Fusion or the iPlutonium stolen from the iTerrorists to generate the 1.21 Jiggawatts.
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