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- helfire, on 10/27/2007, -6/+49Boot Camp is a beta software, It's in the definition that things may not work. Bitch if it's not fixed in 10.5 but otherwise don't use it in production.
- crackah, on 10/16/2007, -9/+41If it took ms this long, people would say its anti competitive.
- BLyn, on 10/15/2007, -8/+26but the real quesiton is can you add/edit calender entries?
- cave, on 10/16/2007, -6/+24Is that sarcasm? I can never tell with mac users.
- dinkola, on 10/15/2007, -1/+17Wow. Someone that makes software trying to fix bugs. Buried.
- Mejogid, on 10/16/2007, -6/+18If that's anti-competitive, then what's requiring Leopard to run other operating systems once it's released? The fact is, Apple gets away with being anti-competitive and locked down because they don't have the market share (ipods, on the other hand...).
- Roger, on 10/15/2007, -1/+11That your way of saying you have a man crush on Kevin Rose?
- inactive, on 10/15/2007, -6/+16Well, you still can't pick your boot disk at startup on a Mac Mini with the new highly touted aluminum keyboard. The Option key isn't recognized on boot.
How do you ***** up a keyboard after all these years? - FashionLad, on 10/14/2007, -1/+10OK, so it's news that they're PREPARING to fix it. Wow. Should I give them a parade when it's ACTUALLY fixed? I'm more concerned with the fact that the 24" iMac that I have on my sales floor crashes about 3 times a day and I have to deal with snarky customer that go, "I thought Macs don't crash".
- zwei, on 10/15/2007, -3/+8I had no idea people were even having problems with the 24" iMacs and BootCamp. Mine must be one of the lucky ones that doesn't have any problems with it. I've been using it just fine for the last 9 months at least.
- drcreek, on 10/14/2007, -0/+5I think he is just a *****.
- insertAliasHere, on 10/14/2007, -1/+6What the hell are you talking about? I have a mac mini, the new keyboard, and bootcamp. It works just fine for me.
- kahrn, on 10/14/2007, -1/+5Everyone but apple? Yeah, ***** IBM, Motorola and Intel. They only make the hardware. A mac doesn't need hardware! right?!?
- cgreentx, on 10/14/2007, -2/+6It's Beta like all Google products are Beta. It just gives them an out in case it doesn't work. "Oh sorry about that.. but you guys know this *is* a beta right?" Nobody wants to catch the heat Microsoft catches. Seems like a solid business model and consumers seem to agree.
- rossinio, on 10/14/2007, -0/+3"To win the game you must kill me, John Romero." ?
- schrutefan, on 10/14/2007, -3/+6Apple, see what happens when you let your users upgrade their hardware? You run into typical PC problems. Don't give people a choice!
- kingkilr, on 10/14/2007, -1/+4What would apple users have against google, Eric Schmidt is on their board?
- Optimaximal, on 10/14/2007, -2/+5or sarcasm...
- RoamShell, on 10/14/2007, -1/+3Well the whole "Macs are perfect in every way" ***** is prevalent amongst the fanboys and general brand-vulnerable public, so, unfortunately, it's a dose of reality.
As for your iMac, what are it's specs and does it just sit there on display or does it run anything higher end than a web browser? I mean no offense by that, I just am curious as to what exactly could do that.
Then again, I suppose if it's got the Radeon HD 2600 Pro, the intel duo core extreme, and a large drive, along with the monitor all squashed into the same small space, there could be some form of a overheating issue. Perhaps check and see if the coolant(if imacs have any, I haven't bothered with them in a while) has leaked? I remember reading about that happening in the past with previous intel machines (Imacs, macbooks, and Dell laptops.) - inactive, on 10/14/2007, -0/+2or just plain old idiots.
- Protoss, on 10/14/2007, -0/+2Maybe the bug isn't fixed in the final version because, as the article says, they are preparing a fix.
- wageslaven, on 10/14/2007, -1/+3You should use the sound effect from the last level.
- Tippis, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2A tip: think first; write second; check your facts before posting.
When Leopard is released, the Boot Camp beta (which runs on Tiger) is discontinued - if you want to continue to run other OSes through BC, Leopard is a requirement (sure, there are other BIOS emulators and boot loaders, and the Beta will still technically run, but still...)
Controlling the hardware is anti-competetive if the control is there to make sure only you can provide that hardware.
Stifling your own competition is the very definition of anti-competetive. - mrsteveman1, on 10/14/2007, -0/+2While they don't have a real anti-competitive platform at the moment, if Apple ever hopes to expand their computer business, they will have to open the platform to other hardware makers just like Microsoft, there is no other option and until that happens Apple won't be expanding enough to be considered anti-competitive.
Their only 2 options are to remain closed, vertically integrated, and a small segment of the market, or they can expand and become just another OS X hardware maker.
The current hardware makers, HP, Dell, Acer, and of course the rest of the market itself, are not going to just sit by while Apple assumes 80%+ market share in hardware AND software, which they can't even do. One small company cannot assume the position that every computer hardware maker + Microsoft currently occupy, and that probably WOULD be considered anti-competitive and would be an even larger monopoly than Microsoft could ever hope to form.
I would also bet money that Apple can't and won't be expanding to even 50% of the market because they don't make computers that would suit that number of people, they make simplistic one size fits all machines with barely any expandability or options, including the missing Mac that would compete with small tower machines. - Me1000, on 10/14/2007, -0/+2I think it is a windows fanboy trying to make mac users look bad!
- Tippis, on 10/14/2007, -1/+3I'm thinking Appl€ is a better analogy to M$, if you really want to go down that path...
- moofer, on 10/14/2007, -0/+1Yeah - the fix is called "Leopard"
- moofer, on 10/14/2007, -0/+1I ordered my white 24" iMac with the upgraded video card, and bootcamp works fine...
- jgtg32a, on 10/14/2007, -0/+1If Vista is the only OS w/ DX10 why would they put a 2600pro in, the only reason would be for the HD/Blueray decoding but I doubt Macs have either.
- Adorism, on 10/14/2007, -0/+1I have this problem. It really sucks. I just want to play a god damned video game.
- AaronD12, on 10/15/2007, -0/+1I haven't had any problems with my white iMac 24" either. Windows XP SP2 runs great on it, showing some of the best frame rates I've seen on any computer -- PC or Mac. I wonder what there is to fix?
- inactive, on 10/14/2007, -2/+3"If it took ms this long, people would say its anti competitive."
If Microsoft released a Beta of a feature in their next OS that wasn't even fully officially supported and took this long nobody would know, because nobody installs Betas from Microsoft. People forget that Boot Camp is a temporary thing with Tiger and the license expires after Leopard comes out. At which time it will be out of Beta and will get more official support. - palatka, on 10/15/2007, -4/+5they need to fix my imac from freezing every time I try do something graphically intensive
- DiTherBox, on 10/15/2007, -0/+1Uuhmm... I'm running Boot Camp on my Imac 24" and it's... working fine. What the *****?
- mstroud, on 10/14/2007, -0/+1i hope their working on a fix for it otherwise its not going to go down to well when its supposed to be an official feature of leopard and it doesn't work on the 24" imacs.
- spargett, on 11/10/2007, -0/+1*Option-Command-Shift-Delete*
Press during startup Bypass primary startup volume and seek a different startup volume (such as a CD or external disk)
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=754 ... - moofer, on 10/14/2007, -0/+1So, let me get this straight... you guys can't hold down the option key on your Mac Mini at boot and get the volume selection screen? Works fine for me on my 24" iMac, as well as my Intel Mini. I've got the aluminum USB and bluetooth keyboards, and they both work great. Have you installed the keyboard update?
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/keyboardsof ... - frostw, on 10/14/2007, -0/+1That's a feature.
- SPECOPS, on 10/14/2007, -2/+3have you tried using this keyboard with the mini to choose an alt boot device during boot up? E.G. switching beween vista/xp and or the mac partition?
Try it, and let us know your results please. As quite a few other people can use the keyboard 100% within the OS, but not during the boot sequence to change boot partitions. - mrsteveman1, on 10/14/2007, -0/+1They don't use the BSD stuff for booting they use EFI with a single application running on it called boot.efi
It's the BIOS emulation they are having to spend time on, and all the model specific Mac bugs, which there seem to be a lot of lately as this story seems to indicate. - SPECOPS, on 10/15/2007, -1/+2 Just so you know, the different sized "monitors" use different hardware (yes, more so than just the monitor).... For instance, the 20" older style iMac uses an ATI video card, the 24" model of the same year, uses an NVIDIA video card.
- AndrewWiggin, on 10/14/2007, -1/+2They say the problems only occur for video cards that were swapped in. So if you didn't specifically change your video card, you didn't have the problem.
- inactive, on 10/14/2007, -1/+2They say the problems only occur for video cards that were swapped in. So if you didn't specifically change your video card, you didn't have the problem
- spargett, on 11/10/2007, -0/+1*Option-Command-Shift-Delete*
Press during startup Bypass primary startup volume and seek a different startup volume (such as a CD or external disk)
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=754 ... - Fduch, on 10/15/2007, -0/+1Still it's retarded =)
- inactive, on 10/15/2007, -0/+1"Their only 2 options are to remain closed, vertically integrated, and a small segment of the market, or they can expand and become just another OS X hardware maker."
I'm guessing they're quite happy to continue with the first.
"The current hardware makers, HP, Dell, Acer, and of course the rest of the market itself, are not going to just sit by while Apple assumes 80%+ market share in hardware AND software, which they can't even do."
In what imaginary world would Apple need to own 80% of the computing market? They're doing quite well with their current share of the market, which, btw is growing. Imagine if they just doubled it? I see some serious growth opportunity, and I'm speaking as a shareholder.
"I would also bet money that Apple can't and won't be expanding to even 50%..."
Wow. Really going out on a limb aren't you? - Giga, on 10/15/2007, -0/+0Nobody installs betas from Microsoft? I guess I am a nobody.
- jgtg32a, on 10/15/2007, -1/+1*****
- insertAliasHere, on 10/14/2007, -0/+0Yes, I've tried...I never knew there was a problem. I have the current low end mac mini, the new aluminum keyboard and vista, and I have always chosen the boot partition by pressing the option key.
It's always worked for me. - moofer, on 10/14/2007, -1/+1If my six year old cried like that, I'd call it childish.
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