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- Mike668, on 08/06/2008, -0/+10Yet apparently they work better than anything Apple has for whatever task they use them for. *shrug*
- TruckStuff, on 08/06/2008, -6/+12Buddy of mine works at an apple store and hates those things. Says they take twice as long and frequently crash. So I guess they are based on Windows Mobile.
- cjflashman, on 08/08/2008, -0/+4Ha, I know it makes no sense at all!
It's just ridiculous right?!
Oh, By the way, I posted this from my Motorola Q. Which has Windows Mobile 2005, Not "1999".
Idiot. - ElimGarak, on 08/07/2008, -0/+4LOL. Just because Apple can't write decent software for WM doesn't mean it is Windows' fault.
- kragil, on 08/07/2008, -0/+4I just got my HTC Touch Diamond and it rocks! You don't see WM6.1 while using it and TouchFlo3D is really nice. You have to adapt to the pressure sensitive touchscreen, but the thing is so small and fast it is just amazing.
And it has:
Opera 9.5 with touch and tabs
2 Cameras
Video ( calls )
Copy&Paste
Twice as many pixel screen as the iPhone
It is really tiny and comes with a nice leather thingie
MMS
Tethering
Tomtom7
DivX ( via TCMP )
All in all WM6.1 is still a very open platform and you are allowed to change anything ( there are numerous community roms around )
So the only downsides:
Touch screen on the iPhone works without pressure and has therefor multitouch
Only 4 Gigs
And the best thing:
It was 180 Euro + 5 Euro for 24 months = 300 Euro!
Edit: And I will probably be able to run Android on it once it is really released! :P - inactive, on 08/07/2008, -0/+3the point being the iphone is nothing but a fashion accessory. and to sell their product they use a non-trendy product running a rival OS.
- Nazuel, on 08/07/2008, -1/+4I have been using windows mobile since Pocket PC 2003, and to be honest I have never really been unhappy with it. Right now I have an XV6700 and while it isn't as skinny or over-hyped like the iphone it comes with a slide out full qwerty keyboard, wifi, bluetooth, and touch screen. Currently using windows mobile 5 and don't have any major complaints. The phone's hardware and architecture have a lot to do with whether your windows mobile experience sucks or not. Besides, I am no windows fanboy by any measure but I really cannot stand apple and all their promoters who really are just sucking on apples marketing *****.
- Tenoq, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3Wow, the fanboy digging is plainly obvious here. Anyone who actually thinks Windows Mobile is stable needs their head read. Seriously. 6.1 is a massive improvement, but it STILL has problems - especially syncing. It's the entire REASON the iPhone is so successful - a smartphone that actually works and people can use easily. It's got nothing to do with features. :p
- davidrools, on 08/07/2008, -0/+3yeah because microsoft makes the credit card readers?
- jedicor, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2I can honestly say when I had my PPC 6700 (a very similar phone) from Sprint, that I didn't particularly hate the OS, but I wasn't impressed either. My company got a huge batch of them several months before the official release as part of a testing program, and a forum was launched very quickly as the various employees tried to figure out how to make it stop crashing and actually start performing. Within a month, we had a dozen or so fixes and tweaks that basically gave it 'normal' functionality.
WM5 isn't bad, it just isn't great, either. If I have to registry hack my phone to get it to change orientation in less than ten seconds when I press the orientation button, that's not good. I'll grant the iPhone a much more solid, stable release and operating platform than WM5 has ever seen, any day. Having said that, there's stuff missing from the OS that many WM users find common. - inactive, on 08/07/2008, -2/+4Articles like this are fairly simplistic and leave out important details. Old payment gateways and the systems used by merchant account providers are overwhelming based on PC infrastructure. And who controls the merchant account providers and credit card processing services? Banks. Almost all modern day banks were closely aligned with IBM, the precursor of PCs, when Apple and Microsoft was just a glimmer in their respective founders eyes.
I'm sure Apple could make their own point-of-sale systems, but found out it would be much cheaper accepting the established systems. After all, we're only talking about point-of-sale devices used in about 250 stores.
And it's not like this cross pollination doesn't go both ways. I think it would be hard to find more than five people that don't use some sort of Apple software in their daily life, whether it's iTunes, Safari or Quicktime. To say nothing of the fact that Microsoft used PPC based Macs in the development of the original Xbox. - timdorr, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2Are you suggesting they mail in their activation info?
"OK, thanks for purchasing your iPhone. You'll be able to use it in 4-6 weeks." - streak, on 08/06/2008, -1/+3I just shop at Apple stores and even I hate those devices. Your buddy is right. They often don't work, don't scan the credit card, etc.
- Cornloaf, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2I worked for a company that did corporate events. We scanned the attendees at the WWDC in San Francisco using these type of devices (Symbol PDA) and SEVERAL of the Apple Fanboys demanded to know why we were not using an Apple Newton to scan the badges!
- NSResponder, on 08/07/2008, -1/+3"ever heard of Adobe Premiere Pro?"
Sure, but what does that have to do with professional video editing? You weren't fooled by the *name* were you?
-jcr - alecks, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2Uhmm... they probably use it because of the credit card swiper and bar code reader accessories that can be attached to it. I'm sure they would use iphones if they had those accessories.
- inactive, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2Ah yes, and you get "permission" to run third party software out of the box so you don't have to feel like a filthy whore for wanting to run your own code.
- dharcha1, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2congratulations. you walked into an apple store.
and paid attention. - dragon76, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2Ugh, I've had WinMO devices since it was called CE and I am damn glad it boots fast.
- Elranzer, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2Overused meme is overused.
- inactive, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2Their exclusive deal with AT&T makes me not want one at all.
- Squidwalk, on 08/11/2008, -0/+1A reason to use an iPhone for something mundane such as POS is that it's good publicity. Then again, I'd imagine that once you're in an Apple store you already know if you want an iPhone or not.
- Chorizotarian, on 08/16/2008, -0/+1C'mon fanboys, it's embarrasing for Apple. Just admit it. It's an iFiasco! :)
- njren78, on 08/11/2008, -0/+1What? I thought they were using Palm devices in the stores? They used one when I got my iPhone 3g in the Atlantic City, NJ store, and I recall them being used in the Marlton, NJ store as well.
- PullingTeeth, on 08/07/2008, -1/+2/generic windows bashing comment to fit in with apple fanboys upset about MS crossing their turf
- bwilson14, on 08/06/2008, -1/+2I noticed this when I was getting my iPhone. I almost asked the Apple employee why Jobs et al hadn't developed an application for iPhone to do the registration stuff and then lend every employee a 1st gen iPhone with that app installed.
- inactive, on 08/06/2008, -4/+5windows mobile... my daily nightmare
seriously, who would have thought I would be resetting a mobile phone more than my pc? didn´t see that one coming - Elranzer, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1Um, Windows Mobile is flexible and advanced (not to mention expandable and scalable). It also has real apps available for it without being bound to the monolithic iTunes App Store or having to jailbreak it for the good apps.
iPhone is just an expensive last-year's toy that no longer impresses anyone. - inactive, on 08/07/2008, -2/+3The fact that you've had that many opportunities to gawk at it certifies that you're a gullible consumer.
- dragon76, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Their dev kit for 360 is still a G5.
http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEEuEplpEA ... - dolphinCAGE, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1So that makes it about $480, for 4Gb. Jeepers creepers, I'd rather get a vastly superior, easier-to-use iPhone for $300.
- fightzero01, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Apple is a company just like any other that sells products and services. Apple is going to go with the best technology *currently* available for processing transactions wirelessly and securely. As of today, the 'EasyPay' devices we use are the best and most cost efficient way of handling our wireless transactions. Also, why would Apple waste the time of engineers and software developers to create a device to do something as simple as Point-Of-Sale transactions for around 220 stores? Let's get real.
- MattFromSeattle, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Yeah, so gullible buying gift cards for friends and family and a computer to use for myself in business...
- joshmiao, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Last I checked when they ring people up at the cashier, they used iMacs.
Apple does have their own point-of-sales systems. - Spire3660, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1This is simply using the best (read :cheapest/easiest/most_established/insert_any_other_market force_here) tool for the job. Why is this important?
- NSResponder, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Maybe, maybe not. Remember there's a hardware requirement to be able to read the magnetic strip on a credit card.
-jcr - Twee, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1We use similar PDAs at Target for inventory purposes. They're very common in the retail industry.
- yujie, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Wow the specs on the Motorola MC75 looks better than the iPhone
- Elranzer, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1Not really ironic at all. Apple is a business afterall. Windows Mobile runs on business devices that can do real work. The iPhone (and iPod Touch) are little more than toys.
- werries, on 08/09/2008, -0/+1What? How is adobe premiere unprofessional at all? It has all the functionality of any other video editing program.
- Pic0, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Because that would be an original idea, Apple doesn't do that!
- p3ngwin, on 08/07/2008, -2/+3whenever i see that POS abbreviation all i can think of is Piece Of *****.
even stranger is that in every one of the instances, it turns out to always be a funnier resulting sentence. - linkerjpatrick, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1I don't really think it's all that weird. First of all Apple and Microsoft are not direct competitor. In fact both provide software and services for each other's platforms. HP and Dell and Sony are more direct competitors. Also this would also help them from confusing the merchandise. It would be a bad thing to accidentally get an in store Apple device confused with one they were selling. It sounds crazy but I have seen this kind of stuff happen when people were buying stuff at a check out counter or bring in a return.
This also reminds me of how my wife and I keep our personal and business accounts at two local competing banks after having an issue with the teller depositing the money in the wrong account. - inactive, on 08/07/2008, -1/+2Just as good today as it was in 1999. Why fix what isn't broken?
- dolphinCAGE, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1I guess that's why it's still sold out at virtually every store.
- inactive, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1I'm still using my motorola brick from 1992
- pond70, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1it just works
- Dacvak, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1This isn't true, at least not universally true. I just bought an iPhone 4 days ago and I specifically took notice of the device the guy ringing it up was using. It may have originally been meant for Windows Mobile software (like I had initially thought) but after inspection (and use of entering my SSN) it definitely was of Apple origin. I'm not saying some stores don't use WM, but the one I was at certainly didn't.
- bipolarruledout, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1There are fundamental differences in each mobile platform and I'm seeing more people go with windows mobile over palm OS these days. The blackberry is trumping both however by a wide margin. Windows mobile is a very open platform and tends to be more resource intensive but people seem to like how good the software availability is. The blackberry on the other hand has been enginered for very specific functions and because it's more "controlled" it's very stable and gets great battery life. The iPhone is really a brand new platform and it's way to early to say how it's going to pan out.
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