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- DanteDefiance, on 10/10/2007, -18/+95I love my iPhone. There is a whole lot of iPhone haters out there and I fail to see where the hate stems from. It's a fantastic phone and I would recommend it to anyone.
- bmobile, on 10/10/2007, -17/+87I'm actually a little bit surprised at this. Not the fact that Apple sold so much but the fact that it outsold all of these other established phones with large userbases. As a shareholder, I say: Way to go Apple!
- kelly, on 10/10/2007, -12/+81It has nothing to do with the iPhone's price. There's plenty of high end phones that cost more than $500 or $600. The hatred stems from the fact that they've been predicting Apple's death to Apple's user base for so long and the fact that it hasn't come true is upsetting. These same people implied that the iPod was just a fluke and to prove their point they would show us by demonstrating how poorly the iPhone would sell. Now that the iPhone is doing so well, watch as these same people chalk it up to Apple fanaticism rather than it being because Apple sells such a great product.
- cowsgonemadd3, on 10/10/2007, -10/+51And yet its NOT a smartphone replacement as far as biz. use goes. Its more like a multimedia phone for the average user who like a "big" phone.
- waveman216, on 10/10/2007, -6/+34For all you haters out there, HOW?!!! HOW can you actually HATE a tech device?! I DON'T GET IT!!! It's there, some people like it, some people don't. Some people think it's the best thing to happen to phones in years. And then there's that small small group of dedicated haters that for some reason think the iPhone is the second coming of Hitler. WHY?!!!
- adairnic, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22if you are basing that 50% number on the box of parts analysis done, it is WAY off. Once you start factoring in manufacturing value add, distribution, marketing, advertising... Yes, Apple is profiting from the iPhone, don't get me wrong, but not by the factor you stated.
- inkhead, on 10/10/2007, -11/+31sorry but the iphone is smarter than my blackberry, palm or q. And clocks in at 600mhz.
- proghead, on 10/10/2007, -10/+29jealousy. they may not admit it or even know it themselves, but they hate it because they cannot get one.
- geoken, on 10/10/2007, -4/+21Cool, although I'd like to see some figures based on actual sales numbers and not a survey.
- shempey, on 10/10/2007, -3/+20Exactly what functions of a 1997 Palm Device can the iPhone not match?
- Zap2, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19And of course development...which isn't going to be cheap. This being Apple first smartphone...plus its full touch screen.
Hardly a 50% margin, after manufacturing value add, distribution, marketing, advertising and development costs - kelly, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18And the Palm devices of 10 years ago AND today can't match many of the functions of the iPhone.... all of which shows that your point is lacking.
- zweben, on 10/10/2007, -4/+19There's a reason manufactures started using those tiny keypads... handwriting recognition sucked.
- monsterofNone, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17all of these are wrong.
- kelly, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17I don't know why you were dugg down. The iPhone is not a smart phone... and this fact is not a dig against it. Considering the sad state of smart phones these days... I'd say its a compliment to not be associated with that bunch.
- totorototoro, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14That isn't too surprising for July (since there was a huge pent up demand)...I'll be really impressed if August/September continue that trend.
(But as a stockholder, I'm pretty happy with this news :D) - manmetropolis, on 10/10/2007, -8/+20Because they are jealous and sadly, cheap.
- fahrvergnuugen, on 10/10/2007, -7/+18"What if I need SSH or VNC connectivity from my smartphone to work?"
Then don't buy an iPhone. You're obviously not in the audience that Apple targeted with version 1.0. - Quix, on 10/10/2007, -9/+20"Apple's iPhone Outsells All Other Smartphones in July"
And a million Apple haters (like Rukaribe) grind their teeth to powder in rage. - RonPaulsiPhone, on 10/10/2007, -10/+21Lack of features? What if I need SSH or VNC connectivity from my smartphone to work? What if I want 3G data? What if I just want choices outside the pre-loaded Apple stuff and don't have any desire to hack my phone and void the warranty?
Also, congrats on the most American response of all time "jealousy." The idea that you're so right, that anyone who doesn't agree must want to be you so bad that they'll take a position against you. - kelly, on 10/10/2007, -5/+16The hatred stems from the fact that they've been predicting Apple's death to Apple's user base for so long and the fact that it hasn't come true is upsetting. These same people implied that the iPod was just a fluke and to prove their point they would show us by demonstrating how poorly the iPhone would sell. Now that the iPhone is doing so well, watch as these same people chalk it up to Apple fanaticism rather than it being because Apple sells such a great product.
- kelly, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15Its a design decision. Not an inability. Apple chose not to use the inferior stylus... instead opting for your finger. When you couple this with the fact that people type faster than they can write longhand... it was inevitable that handwriting recognition be removed.
- directive0, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13And because you HATE apple your bias is somehow moot?
- Quix, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Fanboy's what?
I agree that Digg trolls constantly griping about Apple fanboys (or "fanboy's" if you can't spell) are the most annoying people on earth. - Gee1004, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13Because they get boners flamming Apple and their products
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Talking of idiots, where did Flag go? Was he reincarnated as another Digg user?
- Morky, on 10/10/2007, -5/+14Sorry, but how do characterize the iPhone as a non-smartphone?
- jsebrech, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10The iphone isn't even selling into the same segment that the blackberry and palm sell into. Apple took an existing moniker ("smartphone") and applied it to a new class of product ("usable phone"), and this is confusing a lot of people. However, the iphone is not in direct competition with blackberry's core market. Enterprise features on the iphone are almost entirely absent. It's a great phone for personal use, but I don't see any corporate organization standardizing on iphone's instead of blackberries.
I'd venture to guess that blackberry and palm are seeing somewhat decreased sales due to the edge market switching to iphone, but that their core market is unaffected. I'd also guess that the more expensive music phones from samsung, nokia and so on are seeing heavy losses in sales, because they sell into the same segment but are inferior products. - conturax, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10god forbid a company make a profit on something they are selling... get over it already.
- ngmcs8203, on 10/10/2007, -5/+13Exactly. And the fact that it outsold all of those, and in addition to tomorrows hyped announcement... this report couldn't have come out at a better time for shareholders. Just another sign that if it takes another dip into the 20's it will be time to reload.
- totorototoro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9*cough* Zune *cough*
- peterinjapan, on 10/10/2007, -6/+14Hah, this WEEK I've installed tons of apps on my phone, including the vaunted AIM functionality that we wanted. That tells me that in 6 months there will be *tons* of apps that will do anything you want, probably even Skype. So s'cool, the iPhone will be what you need, no hating necessary (unless you're just an "anything but iPod" type of person). Meanwhile, my iPhone has changed the way I go to bathroom (I can read digg on the toilet), so that's all I need.
- Frozenpython, on 10/10/2007, -7/+15There should be a "Bury as NO *****!" button...
- MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9To just say "***** Apple" s as useless as saying "***** (insert company here)". Other than the fact that you probably don't use Apple products, why do you care? Did Apple or Steve Jobs kill your family or some such?
BOT: The only numbers to be trusted will come out Oct 1st from ATT and Apple on actual sales. Since they don't comment or use stupid numbers from like product shipped, those will be the numbers to compare to. - kelly, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Who's being ripped off?
The phone is a competitively price product. The fact that Apple is a fierce negotiator in getting component prices down is not an indication of the idea that it is price out of sync relative to its worth. - MattAmos, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10I did.
- AtomB, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Just like how your comment wasn't smart?
- mypenis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8nope. its a "Genius" phone.
- monsterofNone, on 10/10/2007, -9/+16i had a motorola smartphone with windows mobile. my iPhone does everything better. everything. if there's a definition of smartphone that means lame, crippled, counterintuitive and confounding... then, no, the iPhone isn't a smartphone.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Ignoring the fact that Microsoft is a company and not a product, you ever wonder why Linux and open source fans hate MS too? Convicted monopolist, stifles innovation, mass spreader of FUD, has infamous and damaging embrace extend and extinguish policies and is now bribing entire countries to use it's proprietary formats over something open. It's pathetic to think that anyone with any sense of where the computer industry is headed can actually support Microsoft.
- manmetropolis, on 10/10/2007, -6/+12I also think because they are jealous that Microsucks just doesn't get it. While Apple seeks innovation, the others seek profits and quantity over quality.
- Cyber_Akuma, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7With that kind of classification can ANY cellphone released in the last 3-5 years in the US not be considered a smartphone?
- cosmicdreams, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Are you sure your cell phone service provider isn't wiretapping your cell phone usage without notification?
- gregrich, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11Hate the break it to all the Apple / iPhone fan boys (and I am one of them) but the iPhone is not a smart phone, its a great convergence device but smart phone it is not. Until the iPhone supports email push via Exchange and Notes it will not be in the same league as RIM, and *gasp* Windows Mobile based phones.
- limpidezza, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Which part of that article supports your claim?
- colincornaby, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10If it does email and full web, it's a smart phone. Heck, a lot of people consider the RAZR a smartphone.
- RogerStrong, on 10/10/2007, -6/+11So Apple's two models beat out any one *individual* model from Motorola, HTC, Nokia or Samsung. Of course, those manufacturers *many* models to chose from. And it was the debut month for the Apple.
Likewise, when Rush Hour 3 shows up at blockbuster, it'll rent more copies that particular week than any one Lord of the Rings movie in the same week. That doesn't make it a better or more popular movie. - hellotyler, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Normal retail markup is 50%...
- superkendall, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10It's called a headphone jack adapter man, $10 and any headphone will work with the iPhone.
- superkendall, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6"AT&T and Verizon, the two largest operators in the region, continued to perform extremely well, AT&T in particular thanks to its exclusive deal with Appleās iPhone in the region,"
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