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- z0mbie2099, on 12/22/2007, -22/+68Gizmodo = Apple fan-boy porn.
- rickcarson, on 12/22/2007, -14/+50When Apple passed Dell in terms of Market Capitalisation I think that made a lot of doom-sayers sit down and shut up.
I've been following Apple since Panther, and while the stock may go up and down, and batteries come and go, their product offering have (for the most part) gone from strength to strength. Plus they've had some good people (for the most part) running the finances, they don't seem to have problems with liquidity, their surplus cash 'war chest' is filled to over-flowing. The only thing I can think of where they aren't kicking butt and taking names is in market share. But given their stubborn refusal to kowtow to our corporate overlords this is hardly surprising. So only in market share are they the underdogs. And is it that big a deal? Only if they have profitability problems, or a sudden systemic failure to move forward or be creative, which they don't have.
- inactive, on 12/22/2007, -15/+47Wow what a kiss ass article, points out so many bad things about the iPhone then still feels the need to give it a A-
- inactive, on 12/22/2007, -28/+57***** Gizmodo. I haven't seen a single bad Apple review come out of their site from ANY of their "writers."
By the way, Apple TV should get an F. - happyseamonster, on 12/22/2007, -15/+35Jizzmodo sucks.
- tutivlahos, on 12/22/2007, -13/+27"Does Porsche outsell Honda?"
No, but does it cost the same? - inactive, on 12/22/2007, -5/+18It should be more like PC=Toyota and Mac=Lexus. There is no difference, they just charge you more for the brand.
- wtmoose, on 12/22/2007, -1/+14Too bad you sold too soon
- inactive, on 12/22/2007, -1/+14You're bragging about selling a stock that's going to go up?
- fatejudger, on 12/22/2007, -3/+15Wow, what's with all of the hostility this morning? I own a Mac, but I don't go around acting like a pretentious ***** like many of my Mac-loving brethren. I, personally, believe Vista is a good OS, but I prefer to run OS X or Ubuntu because I prefer their design methodologies. Furthermore, I think it's a stretch to claim that many macs are more expensive than their PC counterparts. Take the Dell M1330 laptop, a beautifully designed and constructed computer, which is priced almost identically to the Macbook at any price level. For me, like many others, the decision was an obvious one: if the prices and quality are roughly equal, choose the computer with the better operating system.
- juicebag, on 12/22/2007, -0/+10Good to see a mature conversation.
- slimasian, on 12/22/2007, -4/+13Apple has done a stupendous job of riding the halo effect of the iPod into the seeming juggernaut that exists today. Now, by no means am I an Apply fanboy, but from a business perspective, you gotta admire what they're doing. Their bread and butter, software/technology usability, extends across all their platforms. Their cost-value proposition to the consumer: we make using technology ridiculously easy (and they do).
If anyone ever downplays the significance of user friendliness, point them in the direction of Apple...their stellar usability is more than enough of a value proposition to warrant profit margins 50% or greater...and that's on their NON computer lines like the iPod and iPhone. - CLShortFuse, on 12/22/2007, -5/+13Fanboys are ruining Digg. We get it already! ENOUGH!
But sticking to the ARTICLE, I'll say I have to agree with most of the rating. A few are too high. I value 3G on my phone so I'll pass on the iPhone Gen1. Right now, I'd give it a B and if they open up official 3rd party support, A-.
I find Leopard to be rather disappointing. I've never never had a problem with Vista64, it has never crashed once, even while Beta 2. A quick disabling of the UAC and it's really preferred. As for Leopard, I wasn't impressed. Very little was changed and everyone claimed it was going to be the next greatest thing from Apple. The things I like Macs for (mostly video-editing) wasn't really enhanced. The OS went through minimal changes. I'd give it a C+ to B-, not sure yet, but I've been running Leopard for months. As a regular user of Mac OS X, Leopard didn't really do much for me. I find it to be overhyped. Even Gizmodo's review just talks about how popular it is and how bugs were fixed. It didn't really say what's so great about, which I still don't understand, and I've been using it as my main PC since release. - Spamcan, on 12/22/2007, -0/+8It's a knee-jerk reaction to a ***** brown nosing article, pay no attention to the anti-Apple reverse fanboys. Trying to use logic as a defense against people who refer to you a "gay fag mactard" is a fairly pointless use of your time. Pretentious ***** exist on all sides and we'd all be better off if they could be stomped out, alas, if this thread is any indication thats not going to happen anytime soon.
- inactive, on 12/22/2007, -6/+13Apple TV deserves an F. It IS a failure, and is only a matter of time until Apple scraps it for something else.
And the 1.06 billion "charge" was good on Microsoft's part, because that meant free 3-year warranties to all 360 owners. They should have never let the 360 out the door with the problems it had, but that was a mistake they made in 2005, not 2007. - schoate09, on 12/22/2007, -2/+9Xbox 360 a failure? Let alone AppleTV a success? Do we have Phil Schiller in the room? Anyway, Xbox 360 is a great success, so many great games, and now that they're fixed, live service is tremendous, online is terrific, and I've been playing my working Elite 360 almost non-stop with no problems.
- lostarchitect, on 12/22/2007, -3/+10I find that the "anti-apple fanboy" crowd is far, far bigger and louder (and probably smellier) than the actual apple fanboy crowd. i don't quite get why they hate macs so much--noone is making them buy one. i don't like harleys, so i don't buy one. end of story.
- rarson, on 12/22/2007, -2/+9You missed the point. Porsche is the world's most successful auto maker. They sell a lot fewer cars, but they make an average $28k on every car they sell. That absolutely beats the piss out of every other manufacturer.
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/354/C11441/ - tupperbacharach, on 12/22/2007, -1/+7Q: "What is the difference between a Porsche and a Porcupine?"
A: "With a porcupine, the pricks are on the outside."
Q: "What is the difference between a Porsche and an Apple computer?"
A: ? - cowboy86, on 12/22/2007, -7/+13Yea I don't get the mac= Porsche and PC= Honda thing either. So I'm putting an end to it now...
If I could buy a Honda that had the exact same thing under the hood as a Porsche and was still the price of a Honda, I would sure as hell buy it. - rarson, on 12/22/2007, -1/+7IT'S A BUSINESS. Businesses exist to make money. Porsche's products are so excellent that they demand a premium that people pay for. You obviously know nothing about Porsche or their cars.
Porsche gave us modern turbocharger technology, AWD technology, and the first car to have driver and passenger airbags as a standard feature, to name a few things. Their current 911 GT3 makes 415 hp out of a 3.6L, naturally-aspirated flat-six engine that has evolved from the first air-cooled VW engines that Porsche started out with. Their engineering is second to none and their street cars have all evolved through the technology that Porsche themselves pioneered through their rich racing history.
By your logic, Kias demand the same premium as Hondas, Audis, BMW's, and Lamborghinis, because they all "do exactly the same." You're probably the guy that drives around with his brakes squealing and his Check Engine light on because you can't be bothered to learn enough about cars to actually maintain them properly. There's a reason why they're called "idiot lights." - MacParrot, on 12/22/2007, -1/+6Are you three really arguing over who hates Apple MORE? None of you can figure out that each of your comments was anti-Apple (whatever that means)? With pundits like you against Apple, no wonder they're on a roll.
- theuniversal, on 12/22/2007, -6/+11I don't own an Apple TV, but the people I know who have one say they love it. Can you expand on your 'F' rating?
- witte, on 12/23/2007, -1/+5How to load a Gizmodo page on the iPhone:
1. Click Gizmodo link
2. Bury iPhone in backyard
4. Wait 30 years
5. Dig up iPhone
6. Wait couple more minutes
7. Loading....
8. Loading.......
9. Loading.................
10. Done! - Nerfdude, on 12/22/2007, -1/+5wait... omg, OSX crashes?! i thought it was a rock solid OS built out of pure win!
oh wait, it has the same problems as windows but you have to pay a fat premium on first party hardware to use it. - Nerfdude, on 12/22/2007, -1/+5xbox 360 does what Apple TV is built solely to do. and it does it better.
oh, and it plays video games, too. like, real ones. - Chirp08, on 12/22/2007, -0/+4yeah leopard is definately lacking in stability compared to their past releases, that was the most dissapointing thing about it to me. Safari crashes waaay too often when trying to open it, its stable once open and being used, but for some reason If I browse with firefox for awhile then try to open up safari it will hang. the biggest annoyance though is the fact that I cant ***** copy anything to network drives at work, finder tries for 30 seconds, then throws an error leaving a garbage file. the worst part is that if I boot up windows through parallels I can connect to the same network drive and transfer the file no problem. So obviously its just the way samba is connecting to the drive. either way very annoying as a graphic designer dealing with 50-150mb photoshop files all day..
- MephistoX, on 12/22/2007, -0/+4I disagree with your comparison to the Zune. The problem Microsoft faces with the Zune is the same one that Apple faces in the general computer market - They're trying to fight the other who's already got control of the market. The Zune has to fight against the iPod, a device that's been selling and been insanely popular with consumers since 2001. Plus, if you've bought any music on iTunes, you're effectively locked into using the iPod because that music can only be played on Apple's product.
Microsoft's Zune really isn't that bad, and with Zune's second model, it has more features than the iPod, so from a technical standpoint it's the better product. - rarson, on 12/22/2007, -0/+4It's too bad you didn't read any of my post, because you completely missed the point.
- dakbonsa, on 12/22/2007, -1/+5If you calculate in scale of A=4, A-=3.7, B+=3.4, B=3 and so on,
you get around 3.34
I don't get how you could calculate that into an A - MacParrot, on 12/22/2007, -8/+12No, he really can't
- cowboy86, on 12/22/2007, -7/+11Actually, based on their grades it's somewhere between a B- and A-.
- fauxXenophanes, on 12/22/2007, -1/+5Merry Christmas !
Ya filthy animal. - collywolly, on 12/22/2007, -3/+6You can tell it is going to be a fanboy article when the car analogy comes by the third line.
- rarson, on 12/22/2007, -0/+3And a different OS.
- doctordbx, on 12/22/2007, -5/+8I have always thought Macs are more like Volvos. The reason being Volvo has the highest loyalty out of any car manufacturer and the people that do buy them always seem a little odd.
Anyway, they're just computers... just things. If you defined yourself by the logo on the keyboard you thump... you have issues. - lostarchitect, on 12/22/2007, -1/+4...yeah, and for some reason he's calling US mouth-breathers. know thyself, i always say...
- bjornski, on 12/22/2007, -7/+10So they gouge their customer, who is paying a HUGE premium on something shiny, which does exactly the same as the other option, to impress other people and compensate for their lack of [insert whatever here]?
I guess the analogy DOES fit. - rarson, on 12/22/2007, -0/+3Porsche technology costs more than Honda technology, for starters. So, if Honda put the kind of engineering into their cars that Porsche does, they wouldn't be priced like Hondas anymore.
Furthermore, because Porsche sets the standard for automotive engineering excellence (and they most certainly do), their vehicles demand a premium because they are, literally, some of the best cars money can buy. The fact that they are as cheap as they are (typically about half the price of a Ferrari or less) makes them actually seem like a bargain to most auto enthusiasts.
By the way, Porsche has made several "inexpensive" models and they've always been very successful. Maybe not Honda pricing, but pretty damn close to it. The 944, 968, and Boxster were all excellent cars, as was the 914. - redfox2600, on 12/23/2007, -0/+2"You can only run Mac OS on Apple hardware." Apple hardware? I'm probably using the same CPU that the mac uses. The only reason you can't run OS X on a PC is because Apple locked you out.
- estvir, on 12/22/2007, -4/+6I agree with everything you said.. except my home-built PC isn't ugly. :D It's hard to find good cases that aren't ugly or plastered with neons and flames but there's some quality cases out there.
- inactive, on 12/22/2007, -2/+4I got a black piece of crap as a case and i love it. :D
- Nerfdude, on 12/22/2007, -0/+2volvos are pretty much the safest cars on the road. that said, i'm not trying to draw a parallel here.
you don't see people slapping volvo stickers on their laptops. - happyseamonster, on 12/22/2007, -0/+2Should it cost the same?
- Nerfdude, on 12/22/2007, -1/+3and when they break down, one you can find replacement parts for, one you're *****.
- scruffles, on 12/23/2007, -0/+2I think he's bragging that he committed fraud:
http://www.sec.gov/answers/pumpdump.htm - HimThatSpeaks, on 12/22/2007, -0/+2i suppose it depends on the weight of the subjects. LIke what if you get an A in math and a C in citizenship, does that mean your overall performance is a B. Or is it still an A because citizenship does not matter?
- rarson, on 12/22/2007, -3/+5No, it's not. The analogy is that they make a ***** more money selling FEWER cars. Not that I'm saying the analogy is accurate, but that's how Porsche compares to Honda, anyway.
- knightboat, on 12/22/2007, -2/+4Agreed. These anti-Apple people keep coming into Mac stories complaining about gay guys with turtlenecks and elitist suckers that would die for Steve Jobs, but I don't see any of those unbearable Mac people that they keep saying are everywhere. All I see are unbearable anti-Apple trolls ***** up every Apple story's comment section. It seems like you see one of those fabled ***** insane Apple fanboys for every 20 vitriolic trolls that have nothing to do but spread pointless hatred just because of computer preference.
- digitalvik, on 12/23/2007, -0/+2Good observation! You can tell really...
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