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- schlongmeister, on 10/12/2007, -0/+33I predict another Apple sales surge once Adobe releases CS3. I personally know of several people who are waiting for Universal versions of Photoshop and Illustrator before they buy a new Mac.
- ThatsUnpossible, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31No, that's correlation not causation. And based on sales figures of Vista, I'm not even sure there's correlation... ;-)
- rickcarson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18No, this is year over year.
Eg they are saying that this January Apple sold twice as many as last January.
Also, that the average price has gone up slightly, so it isn't just people buying the bottom of the range, so it is all good.
(Compare: if HP slashed their prices in half and sold twice as many computers, their revenue would stay the same, but their profit would plummet)
So since Vista hasn't been out a whole year, you're comparing Apples and not Apples. - Quix, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22Sorry flag, sorry to have to point out your erroneous information (again), but it was Forrester Research that showed the big iTunes drop, a proclamation that was quickly refuted by Apple and other analysts. It wasn't NPD.
Yeah, I know, it's hard to read with your Apple-hate-clouded vision... - everfresh59, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I'm one of them....
- astrosmash, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14It will interesting to see what happens when OS X 10.5, iLife '07, and iWork '07 are released. From what I've been reading a lot of people are holding out until the new line of software is released.
- danielwsmithee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11With Leopard, Adobe & Microsoft all releasing this year it will be a record year for Apple sells. Many of the core Mac users from years gone by are still using PPC machines and have waited. Most their sales in the last few years have been to people who have not had Macs before. I know a few poeple at work that have 2-3 G4's and a G5 and have just been waiting for Adobe.
- lopla, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12My father recently purchased a toshiba laptop with vista. My mom has a macbook that he's been using as well. He took his new laptop back a few days ago and swapped it for a macbook, he said Vista gave him a headache and "the damn popups came back". I don't know how the old man does it but always gets popup ad viruses and his vista with nortons still didn't help. My mom.. she's been running her macbook for over 6 months now, not a single issue whatsoever. He said he was told Vista was as nice and intuitive as osx and secure so since he's always been a windows user excitedly bought a laptop w/vista. He gave them an earful and left with a macbook lol. Anyone who thinks saving a few hundy for a windows pc will loose 10fold in hassles and failure of an incompetent OS.
- blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13"Modding down comments is not a substitute to answering them."
No but it has the advantage of hiding your hideous ALL-CAPS lines. - Lynn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Sale "GROWTH" up 100% not total sales. Q2 2006 saw sales growth of 4% so a 100% increase in growth will put it at 8%. PC sales are trending at 67% with the release of Vista. Macs will lose more market share this quarter.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6157709.html - astrosmash, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13No, it means that Apple's brand is actually worth something, unlike, say, Dell or Sony, and their products are in high demand, unlike, say, Vista or the PS3.
- KSUdesigner, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9People are holding out until new software is released, but it's not 10.5, ilife or iwork that they're waiting for. Many (myself included) are waiting for Adobe to get their asses in gear and release versions of their apps that run natively on the intel machines.
- GnKnight1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@Atomike
Atomike, you are making an age-old argument that simply does not hold water anymore. Have you really done a DIRECT comparison of a Mac system to an EQUIVALENT (hardware-wise) PC system? Your comment shows that you have not.
It is a mistake to compare any Mac to a POS sub-$500 PC. That is a market that Apple does not wish to compete in. Why? Because there's NO MONEY TO MAKE IN IT! Why waste time selling machines that lose money?
But compare a Mac to a PC DIRECTLY...hardware-to-hardware...and you'll see very little difference in price. And then consider the iLife suite and other USEFUL software that is included and you'll see that the Mac is priced quite competitively. The problem is people generally don't look at the details and jump to conclusions....kind of like you did.
However, if your idea of comparing Mac and PC prices is comparing an iMac to a $300 eMachine package, then yes the Mac is more expensive. But are you really comparing Apples to Apple? (Pardon the pun.) Hardly. - waxesstatic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11now i'll no longer be going against the grain
- superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Thanks for the fairytale bgbs. Unlike your grandpa, the other one is real...
As noted, it's easy enough to replace the CD in a laptop with another laptop CD drive. I've also opened the case to do hard drive changes, though on a Macbook you don't even have to do that (it just comes out through the bottom where the memory is accessed. - GnKnight1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@astrosmash
"Tossing out your old PC for a new one doesn't increase market share."
Actually, yes it does. Market share is measured by total number of units sold. The number of PC's (or Macs) tossed out has no bearing on this measurement. - thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Ok, and the point of that is?
They shipped twice as many computers in the month of January 07 as compared to January 06.
If I'm not mistaken, isn't January one of the SLOWEST months for computer sales? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Just goes to show you, that all the PC users bitching on Digg isn't going to change the fact that Apple is bound for great things, and is going to continue to expand as they take market share away from other companies like Dell, MS, and HP.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Me too
I just went to mac and got two of them!
Lepord 64 bit
Photoshop 64 bit oh yeah! - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6How is Apple selling units "locked into its ecosystem"? It uses PC hard drives, memory, and other components. You can run Windows on it. Where's the lockin?
I guess it must be having an OS that is actually pleasant to use. Damn you Apple, for having an OS good enough to keep! - zpok, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well, as always it's hard to decide what's actually sadder. Us mac-heads getting stats all wrong and getting all warm and fuzzy on Apple's profits or those other guys actually spending time flaming on this.
Or perhaps me stating the obvious .-)
Oh wait, I know, bad spelling in crude sexual references, definitely. - Quix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Hey havoc, there's a new Microsoft section on Digg. Perhaps you might find it more liking to your sensibilities?
Not sure why people like you, flag564, etc. are still buzzing around the Apple section of digg like flies on Apple pie. Boredom? Insecurity? Jealousy? Virtual payback for all those wedgies you got in high school? - drlha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Who said anything about Q2? These numbers are just for January.
- RealHyperX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5replica - time machine is not a rip of shadow copy. Shadow copy is technology that allows you to copy files in use. Something that Mac has done since going to OSX. It's part of Unix.
- superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5No, what happens is people come in and mod down comments that have no sustance, or are factually incorrect. It just happens Flag that you seem to always fit one of those categories.
Whenever I see a flag post, I always hear the song "taps" in my head - because I know I'm about to see a flag being lowered.
There was once, when you posted something real, and were modded up for it. Remember that day? - GnKnight1, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Actually, measuring market share is a little misleading...
A vast majority of the PC market share is comprised of sub-$500 POS computers that are replaced MUCH more frequently than the average Mac computer. PC purchasers replace their machines more frequently overall than Mac users do. This is primarily due to the fact that Apple does not make sub-$500 POS machines that need replacing as quickly. The average life of a Mac is much greater than the average life of a PC (as far as how long it lasts until the user feels a need to replace it.
Market share is simply a measurement of how many units are sold during a given time frame. It does not accurately reflect the total number of users for each platform. So it really depends on how you measure market share. - node3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"If I'm not mistaken, isn't January one of the SLOWEST months for computer sales?"
But they're comparing the same "slowest of months", so it's a good indicator of growth. Your question would only make sense if they were comparing different months, like December (one of the most frenetic of months) with the previous January (even then, 100% growth would probably be abnormal).
Lest you think this is somehow cherry-picking, it's the most recent month for which we have data (this story was compiled during February).
Year-over-year growth is a commonly used indicator of how well a company is doing (for what should be obvious reasons). Using the most recent data is also highly common (also for hopefully obvious reasons). - GnKnight1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@bgbs
"He called support, they told him your laptop is out of warranty you would have to buy a new cd drive, and you can only get it from us, because unlike pc market, we are propietary."
Both you and your poor mislead Grandpa got fed a load of BS, my man. Replacing a CD-ROM drive in a Mac is no harder than it is for a PC. There is a plethora of hardware vendors that make drives that work fine in a Mac.
My question is, if you just bought the Mac, then it should've been taken care of by your AppleCare warranty. Unless you bought some second-hand machine or something. Who exactly did you call? Best Buy? CompUSA? Sounds like you got fed some BS by your dealer, not Apple. - davidlow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm another.
- sgirard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Oops! You're right.
It should have been:
Last month, Apple reported quarterly profit of $1 billion on revenue of 7.1 billion. - DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"So they sold a hundred now? Good for Apple!"
If you do the math based on quarterly sales, they sell about 800 units per hour. They sell 100 about every 8.5 minutes. - Tmacman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The stock is up almost 3% today. Yowser!
- sgirard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Today Dell reported a quarterly profit of $673 million on revenue of $14.4 billion.
Last month, Apple reported quarterly profit of $565 million on revenue of $5.75 billion.
Today, Dell's market cap is 52.27 Billion.
Today, Apple's market cap is 75.03 Billion.
Apple is firing on all cylinders right now, and the stock market respects that. I would expect to see Apple continue to have gains in sales and market share while making more profit as a percentage of sales while Dell (and other PC manufacturers) beat each other up over price and selling commodity hardware. With Vista! (That's like saying "Our cheap hardware ships with buggy software".)
If I were in the market for a new computer, I would be looking at Apple too. - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5When your users like a product, you don't have to pay anyone. That's a lesson Microsoft and the many "grassroots" fronts they offer could learn from.
- klawz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Quix gives Mac owners a bad name. 100% increase in sales for the Macs is about a 1% decrease in sales for the rest of the "piece of pie graph". Happy news indeed for Apple, but no where near bad news for the rest of the PC world.
- johnboyholmes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2IMHO it shows that the ability to run windows/x86 linux if required has wide spread appeal to their customers. I think apple should embrace this and extend the idea by further support the transition from PCs.
So how do they do this, I would suggest supporting wine/crossover because it doesn't actually require windows and is the most seamless way to run windows programs on a Mac. Creating a windows api layer on OS X blah blah blah. Microsoft must be happily increasing their sales of windows as people use VM technology. I know wine is far from perfect, but it is a solid base and with apple support it would improve dramatically.
Some very rough numbers, Apple sells approx 6 million units per year, if it put 25 cents from each unit to developers working on wine the project would receive $1.5 million per year, considering there are probably only the equivalent of 10 full time programmers working on wine, a massive amount of money like this employing programmers would go a very long way.
I the end it would be a win-win for apple and the wine team, Apple satisfies their customers, their customers are happy because their Mac can do more and wine improves their code. :-) - newbill123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+264-bit DOES have a consumer impact. It's not always positive though.
Both Microsoft and Apple have used their 64-bit transitions as ways to deprecate and finally kill old coding practices and APIs. This has nothing to do with the huge new memory space or the sizes of pointers (directly), but both companies have seen their 64-bit transitions as a clear opportunity to draw a line in the sand.
The good side is that performance might improve if the new API's perform better than the deprecated ones. My bet is that this is probably what claims of 64-bit speed gains are really attributable to. Of course, the bad side is that new code means new bugs. There will be cutting edge uses (video editing, nuclear simulation, kuel gamez) where more addresssable memory makes a real difference in the program's execution, but for now the pain and the benefits will be from the baggage that has to be dumped to move to 64 bit. - pabster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Don't get so excited, fanboys.
If I sell 10 machines this January and I sold 5 machines last January that is a 100% "surge" in sales. It's all relative. And since Apple never releases any hard figures...
There's no doubt Mac adoption is up. And rightfully so - I'm the proud owner of a shiny new MBP which I absolutely love. But don't take this for more than it is worth. - gr8one, on 10/12/2007, -9/+11That's simply because Steve Jobs bought 15 computers to give to his friends and family members last year, which doubled Apple's computer sales.
/sarcasm
/kidding
/I'm a mac fanboy with a sense of humor. - ejtttje, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Just want to point out that as far as *laptops* go, the latest intel-based macbooks are now outperforming their PowerPC brethren in Adobe CS, even with the additional emulation overhead:
http://www.macworld.com/2006/11/reviews/mbprocore2duo/index.php
Unfortunately, the desktops haven't made as big a relative gain, but if you do graphics work on the go, no need to hold back any more... - Mk3890, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This doesn't surprise me at all, the MacBook Pro is incredibly sexy, and now that I could put Windows on it I want one more than ever.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9He wishes he had a mac!
- tpink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Plain old 32-bit x86 can also use more than 4GB of RAM in the system. The limitation is that each process can only use up to 4GB of RAM, but there's nothing stopping you from running a 32-bit box with 16GB of RAM.
So yes, contrary to popular belief, 64-bit means zilch to most consumers. - drlha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There will be people who are holding out for Leopard. Its going to be released in the next few months, so its easy to see why people would hold off a hardware purchase until its released so they don't immediately have to splash out $129(?) for an upgrade to Leopard just a few months after buying their new machine.
- jaustermuehle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There are only a few things more satisfying than burying flag.
- davidlow, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7@flag564, Even in your extreme example of $2,000,000 vs. $0.50, it would take Quix only 51 years to have more money than you.
FYI - toasterwaffle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I bought a Macbook in January.
- sgirard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Combine MS and Dell together or any other PC hardware maker, as if they are the same company, and you will get a more accurate comparison."
Will you work out those numbers for me? It would really help you make your point. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Whats new here? PC market always had competition in it self. Thats the fundamental reason why pc market always succeded.
- kelly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3actually, market share AND install base are INCREASING.
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