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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+70I wonder if anyone is surpised that a newer computer is faster/better than an older one?
- tabledesk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Why would you rely on an unsupported operating system?
@synd: I wouldn't trust a comparison that views 6 months of free AOL dialup as a leg-up... - mateo60, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15I'll trade you ;)
- youareretarded, on 10/12/2007, -10/+22Quote: "Glitches such as the MacBook's erratic WiFi reception and almost painfully hot surfaces undercut that appeal. Apple has taught its users to expect better, and it ought to be able to deliver as much before long."
Sure doesn't sound like it's that much better. - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18ok.. i thought this article would be about the macbook selling better than the ibook..
nope, just another random macbook article. - fanboydcs, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14$999 Macbook (amazon rebate) + free 2gb iPod Nano worth $199 (back to school deal) is Amazing. Thats like getting this machine for $799.00 if you were going to buy a nano anyways or sell it on ebay!
$799.00 For probably the sexiest laptop alive is an amazing deal! - flamingmb, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I kinda wish I had a macbook rather than my macbook pro. But only for the case design and smaller footprint.
- otatop, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"Keep in mind, I was able to make MacBook Pro specs minus a camera for $800 at Dell just last week..."
Yeah, I'm going to call shenanigans on this. A 15.4" Inspiron E1505 with a 2.0 GHz Core Duo is $1,861. - srg13, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The ram and the hard drive in the macbook is really easy to replace.
It's shown here: http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macword/2006/05/macbookvideo/index.php
You only need to undo three screws - namochan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"and even leaves out a modem. That last feature could be deal-breaker"
No modem? First they left the punchcard reader off and now this? Oh the humanity... - synd, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13And OS X running on anything other than a Mac (or Apple branded hardware) is a direct violation of the license.
- TrueVox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yes, but that's not the case. If I could return software after refusing the EULA, then perhaps there might not be an issue here, but as long as a post purchase EULA can keep me from running the software I just bought and ripped open, I think all's fair in love and code.
Note: I do not run any version of OSX, and hope to one day own a macbook. I've considered OSx86, but don't have anywhere NEAR supportable hardware, or time. :) - mateo60, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7There's nothing new or interesting in this article for most Digg readers. We all know pretty much everything he's talking about. This seems like a good article for a non-tech crowd though.
- MonkeyFarts, on 10/12/2007, -14/+19Actually, the MacBook is just warm. But then again, what notebook isn't? I typically run anywhere from 30-35 Celcius, which indicates absolutely no "heat problem" whatsoever, and I seldom hear people (with ACTUAL results) running above 40 Celcius with their MacBooks (note that I'm saying MacBook, NOT MacBook Pro). The heat issues on the MacBook are completely overexaggerated.
- brainache, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@blankartist
You don't buy the software, you buy a licence. You don't own anything. That's how the whole (corporate) computer world works. When you install and click 'i accept' on the EULA you are agreeing not to install on anything but a Mac, and agreeing that you don't own the software. If you don't agree you ought to be able to take it back to the store where you purchased it. - ryness, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5this post is Apple drool. re: HDD, "you can upgrade yourself, a rarity on any laptop.".... what a crock.
- abstraxion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'm not sure if the Post is smiling on the MacBook, about half the article was covering negative aspects of it.
- synd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6And according to a Google search, the Acer Aspire 5672 has only a T2300 Core Duo (1.66GHz).
- repomonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I came close to buying an Intel MacBook, but was put off by the inclusion of the 900 series Intel graphics chipset. Even with a healthy loadout of RAM and a good CPU, that chipset is always going to struggle in comparison to an off-board GPU like the Nvidia Go series.
- harpdog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I have had 2 macbooks that both made mooing noises that were loud enough to drive you to distraction.
- ThirdPrize, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The old ones were only so cool because the processor wasn't running fast enough to break into a sweat.
- Mac2492, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Believe me when I say that most of us are, have been, or are going to violate the licenses of MacOSX or Windows. By installing Windows XD Home Edition on two computers, you're technically violating the license. (Unless you bought two copies.)
In short: No one cares about the licenses on these things... Except Leo Laporte. He's a silly fellow. =) - actorboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3MacBook Pro (PowerBook replacement) was the first. MacBook (iBook replacement) is the second.
- harpdog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3yes mooing, its a bit of a lottery really some macbooks do it some don't. What happens is that when the book gets warm at about 66 degrees to 70 degrees a fan starts up and stops and starts and stops and starts and stops over and over. This fan sounds like it is mooing or moofing, seriously it is highly distracting and it is loud.
I took it back to the apple store they gave me another and it had the same problem. if you google for 'macbook moo' you will see a few threads in various forums. - tabledesk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"The CD/DVD drive and cooling fans revved all the way up to a sustained, low-level howl -- as if the computer were readying for takeoff -- and the already hot left rear corner of the machine became outright scorching. The plastic in front of the screen hinge, just above the MacBook's vents, felt even hotter."
Is it possible that the test machine had that piece of shipping plastic covering the vent people have been reporting? - drizek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2nope, computer temps are measured in celsius.
But damn, 80 degrees is way too fing hot. the worst ive seen was a dell d800 with a banias core that went up to about 75 when gaming. The new yonah cores shouldnt do that though. - bonaldi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There's no way it runs at about 35˚ unless the poster is just guessing the temp. This one has been on for ten minutes and is already at 55˚. It averages about 60-70, depending on ambient temp.
I like it a lot. The screen is pretty ***** though. Everyone talks about the gloss, but the real problem is the ghosting. Move the pointer over a white background and you'll see mouse trails. Mouse trails! In 2006! You also get colour shifts if you scroll Digg in Safari. Grr. - drunkenoaf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4If you're going to stick XP on it and run the latest 3D games on it, it might be a problem. Otherwise, what a fine laptop for everything else.
- lolox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I hope you are talking Fahrenheit.
- harpdog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree, every macbook i have seen when switched on at 50 degrees soon rises to 65 degrees onçe you open up photo booth or ichat AV and will climb to 80 degrees in some case depening on the processor usage.
- lolox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"ALL" your laptops required only "1" screw to replace the hardrive/memory? hand me a list.
- BRODEL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually when I placed my order I was surprised they didn't have this. At least there was an option for it as an add on though..
I rarely use dialup, but it's nice to have it as an option if I go over someones house that doesn't have broadband. - foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2also.
"Either way, buying the MacBook -- or any other Intel-based Mac -- means never having to say "I'm sorry, I can't run this program on my computer."
uhhhhh..... Linux Software? You would need to put Linux on the MacBook or use vmware - drunkenoaf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Have you confused your macbooks with the packaging that Gateway PCs come in?
- tehpoutine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4All my laptops have required only one screw for HD, one screw for ram, etc. Why do you fanboys keep touting this as something unique and intuitive on Apple's part?
- nullmind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"The plastic in front of the screen hinge, just above the MacBook's vents, felt even hotter"
Exactly what I thought... - blankartist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I touched the MacBook Pro (15") in the store today, and the bottom was *very* warm. Too warm for me to have on my lap for an extended period of time. The battery was missing and it was drawing its power from the cable, and I imagine it was on all day. But still.
On the plus side, I lifted it too high off the table and the magnetic power cord just popped off like advertised. Although that's not too impressive if you're using ethernet, an external mouse or any number of other usb cables you could trip over. ;) - Quix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Keep in mind, I was able to make MacBook Pro specs minus a camera for $800 at Dell just last week..."
Riiiight..... - synd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I believe it is implied that if it can burn a CD, that it can also play one as well. It is merely pointing out that it can only play DVDs and not burn them thus explaining what a "combo-drive" is to those who aren't sure. Under your logic, does the 2nd statement mean that it can't play DVDs or CDs?
- Kazrog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The reviewer is kind of a moron.
- JuliusErving, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ShrimpCrackers, you said “I was able to make MacBook Pro specs minus a camera for $800 at Dell just last week” without backing it up! That’s why you’ll get modded down. Let’s do a quick comparison.
The most comparable dell to a 15” MacBook Pro is probably the Inspiron E1505. When you configure an E1505 to the minimum specs of the MBP, it comes out to $1,579 AFTER a 30% discount code (orig. $1,979). My specs to back it up:
- 2 Ghz Core Duo
- 1 gig ram (couldn’t go less than 1 gig on the dell)
- Windows Media Center with remote (comparable to frontrow)
- 80 gig HD
- Bluetooth
- DVD burner
- ATI Radeon X1400 graphics card
Now, show me where the hell you can get a dell laptop with those specs for $800. Thanks. - brennankeller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ harpdog
from everything I've read the MacBook Pro is a lot hotter then the MacBook. With that said i would like to prove the point that you don't have any idea what your talking about.
As I'm typing this i have the following applications running on my MacBook Pro (Week 21): Mail, Safari, Adium (a better version of iChat), Photobooth, iTunes, and CoreDuo Temp. I can't hear any fans running and my current temp is at 57 degrees Celsius. Based upon report that I've seen on digg as well as articles I've read on cnet and other sites the MacBook Pro runs a lot hotter then the MacBook.
With all that said i would like to say that yes, this computer does heat up when I'm using Dreamweaver, Fireworks, Flash, GoLive, and other web design programs. at times like those I've seen this thing (and felt it when its on my lap) heat up to around 65 degrees. - fascfoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Did anyone else catch this?
"The $1,099 model can burn CDs but only plays DVDs; two more expensive configurations, at $1,299 and $1,499, can burn both DVDs and CDs."
Um, I'm pretty sure it can *play* CDs as well. Pretty awkward writing. - bb4u, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Only problem is that you don't get the free iPod Nano if you buy the MacBook from Amazon. It says you have to buy it from an Apple retail store, Apple Education Online Store, or a Campus Computer/Bookstore. Also, you have to buy the MacBook and the iPod Nano at the same time (same receipt). Besides the free iPod Nano, you can also get a free photo printer (or $100 credit towards a more expensive printer) if you buy directly from Apple.
- drunkenoaf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Oh man, you're just asking for trouble when Apple update OSX and some of the apps, and you're left behind, unsupported. At least people that actually have Apple hardware will get the security updates and run Leopard. I'm not sure you're going to be able to.
- rowlodge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0the "mooing" has started ony twice that i can remember in the last 2 years, and just lasted a few minutes since ive had my mac, didnt know it had a fan. ...oh ibook 933 mhz. i have no air conditioner in my room and it gets up to 80 degrees.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@MonkeyFarts
My HP NX9420 isn't even warm. It's got a Centrino Duo chip running @ 2 GHz. I've never seen a notebook that runs this cool... it's kinda freaky actually. - rideagain, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@feelfromhell: since Mac OS X is UNIX-based, many Linux programs will work on it just fine. I've tried emacs, vi and a few games with success. There's a list at darwinports.opendarwin.org
- gdamjan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0My old Fujitsu-Siemens Lifebook e6550 (it's old) doesn't need any screws to replace the hard drive, to change the CD-rom for a secondary battery or replace the main battery. I'm not sure about the ram (and I don't have it with me now), but I think it only needs one screw to replace it.
Now, do they make them like that today? - Metman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Really? Then why have we sent 22 of them back with over-heated or leaking capacitors?
Wish someone would have told me the heat problems are all in my head before I spent all that on shipping. -
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