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- clm100, on 09/29/2008, -5/+86Speaking as an iPhone owner, Apple's actions are pure insanity.
- pagno, on 09/29/2008, -2/+79NDA on rejection letters. Ridiculous.
- hardeep1singh, on 09/29/2008, -1/+53Apple has made this mistake before hasn't it? Letting its nose get in the way of progress and then losing it to a newcomer like Bill Gates. Only difference, this time its google.
- abbathdoom, on 09/29/2008, -1/+45I am an Apple fanboy through and through and even I am finding this whole affair is leaving a real bad taste in my mouth.
- falafelkiosken, on 09/29/2008, -1/+33As an Apple fanboy and iPhone app developer I can't be silent, this is only hurting Apple and the community of Apple users and developers.
- domness, on 09/29/2008, -1/+33I used to be completely obsessed by the iPhone. I still am, however I think that Apple is starting to make really bad moves with their iPhone platform.
They've missed out many features on the iPhone, however I forgave them when they had brought out the App Store. This meant for me and many others, that: "Yes we're getting an official video recorder app!" or "Yes a good MMS app!" and other stuff.
However, due to Apples stupid behaviour, more and more of these type of apps are just not being accepted due to the fact it's going against their terms or that they are "lame".
Originally, the app store only had the limitiations of such like Porn, Malicious apps and things like that... now they are just blatent rejecting apps for no reason. - pagno, on 09/29/2008, -2/+32Especially with Android out now.
- Jacksteruk309, on 09/29/2008, -3/+29I won't be satisfied with the iPhone until I can install apps from sources other than the App Store without jailbreaking.
- emarshal, on 09/29/2008, -2/+21You're a new iPhone owner. You want to do something with it, so you turn to the lazywebs to help you with that. You find that there's a cool application called Frobinator 2000 that does exactly what you wanted, so you read the instructions. Step one: "Jailbreak your iPhone".
When the first step to installing a piece of software is to perform a procedure that is against the terms of your contract at best, and could result in you having a very suave brick in the worst case, and AVERAGE PEOPLE (non-geeks) go ahead and do it anyway because it's the best option available, you know your distribution channel is fundamentally broken. - benologist, on 09/29/2008, -2/+17"I can't be silent"
And yet you better. Or they'll sue you. - surferjoemaui, on 09/29/2008, -8/+22For anyone that would like there phone to fart you can do this for free.
1) record fart
2) import fart to itunes
3) name track 'Pull My Finger'
4) sync iphone/ipod
5) play
6) spend all the money you saved on something else. - inactive, on 09/29/2008, -3/+16FTA: "A major point of contention is the reasons Apple has cited in letters sent to developers whose apps were rejected. One reason is that an app has "limited functionality." Both Pull My Finger, an app that makes fart noises, and Cool O' Meter, an app that measures how "cool" you are, were rejected for this reason."
..well at least we're not missing out on anything too drastic. - zulfy26, on 09/29/2008, -3/+16The ban hammer swings mighty easily it would seem.
- inactive, on 09/29/2008, -5/+17***** the (cr)app store, jailbreak your phone.
- nebkiwi, on 09/29/2008, -2/+13Jailbreaking ftw! I also wonder how many crash logs apple have received of jailbreak apps from users iPhones, haha..
- then00b, on 09/29/2008, -1/+11This is really starting to not make sense. Hopefully they'll come around because I truly feel the App Store is revolutionary. It's their game to lose IMO.
- digjam, on 09/29/2008, -0/+8why are you spamming retard?
- drummer815, on 09/29/2008, -0/+8Virtual Zippo Lighter is allowed? So basically, stupid apps are okay if they have corporate sponsorship?
- atgmac, on 09/29/2008, -4/+12***** apple. I've been a Mac developer for years. I'm not going anywhere near the iPhone.
- mannymix03, on 09/29/2008, -5/+12No, just the negative people speak louder than the positives, I'm not an apple fanboy, I've seen colleagues get 3 separate Apps on the iTunes store (Including Network Utility) on the first try, I think there are very few rejections and those who get rejected voice it openly because they think that because they paid the $99 they are entitled to have their apps on the store. In some cases apple is WAY in the wrong and made me pretty pissed (Podcaster) but i think a "cool-o-meter" app has no place on the app store at all, i mean honestly how much time did the developer "Waste" on the app for him to be angry about it not being accepted?
- thetanman, on 09/29/2008, -1/+7I'm a big fan of what apple's created, but I just think Android has the potential to be everything the iPhone is (at least software wise) and beyond. I kind of want a Blackberry Bold that runs Android. ...I won't hold my breath.
- scarper86, on 09/29/2008, -2/+7Well that's why you get to choose whether you want a pointless app or not. It's easy to point to a stupid app like that but when it becomes something you do want then it's not so easy. The point is, there is no need for Apple to be choosing what is appropriate for me or anyone else. You might enjoy attending Apple Day Care, but I grew up a long time ago and enjoy using the brain inside my skull.
- SoxFanNH, on 09/29/2008, -0/+4Haha, so Apple is a regular old company after all...
- adikt, on 09/29/2008, -1/+5That taste is Android ejaculate. THERE, I said it.
- haymarket, on 09/29/2008, -2/+6i think the problem is that nobody is sure what the rules are.
- inactive, on 09/29/2008, -1/+5Worst rickroll ever
- Laminarcissus, on 09/29/2008, -0/+4Posts like yours miss the point completely. No one is disputing that they can do what they want. This is commentary and opinion among people who also have investments in the platform -- developers and users.
Apple could adopt a model where developers are nurtured and users see their investment pay off in a thriving application base. Instead, Apple has decided to continually muddy the water in its own favor. Not exactly the way to treat your partners.
So yes, Apple can do what they want, but it's the users, who can't do anything they want until their service contracts are up, that are really screwed. - Laminarcissus, on 09/29/2008, -0/+3Would some developer please submit an application that, when you tilt the phone, shows an Apple crushing a goose laying golden eggs? I'd like to see if they accept it.
- tomis, on 09/30/2008, -2/+5It's classic Apple.
Make a great product. Become a media darling. Shoot yourself in the foot repeatedly until everyone thinks you're on your death bed. Then rise again. Repeat. - TremorX, on 09/29/2008, -0/+3It was probably denied because their mega-Fonzie algorithm was completely wrong.
- antdude, on 09/29/2008, -0/+3Has Steve Jobs said anything about this madness?
- mannymix03, on 09/29/2008, -2/+4I got pissed when pull my finger was denied, that seemed kinda funny that I could see myself using. But Cool-o-meter? i think someone is just bitter at apple because their app sucks.
- arcticblue, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2Me and my coworker when through the same thought process. We took one look at the Android SDK and fell in love and we don't even have to actually have a phone to test on! Now we just need to think of something to make...
- BrendanSheehan, on 09/29/2008, -1/+3"I'm trying to stay positive in spite of recent developments, but I'm finding my attraction to the iPhone fades a little bit each day. I think it’s important that you know that."
This is the best part of the story, because it comes from a guy who makes great software. The best chance of a change in Apple's behavior is if respected programmers stop taking this *****. This is Apple's warning; they have to prove they learned from the *****-ups they made in the 80's. This is their crisi-tunity! - inactive, on 09/29/2008, -2/+4APPEL I-PHONE SUCKS BALLS!!!!11
- EricAnderton, on 09/29/2008, -4/+6"for no reason"
... or they're banning apps that may compete with their own internal projects and/or software being developed by their partners.
Sure that sounds conspiratorial, but why else would they refuse anything that would only make their core product more attractive? - reallytempting2, on 09/29/2008, -0/+2sort it out apple ... otherwise developers will go elsewhere!
- shadowspawn, on 09/29/2008, -2/+4It's a damn shame, because there's so much to do. I was a fan of apple way back when I made my own hardware to run my own software.
I ain't doing ***** on the iPhone now. I got one for free and still it sits except as a dev tool. You won't catch me using one in public.
There's no reason to develop except for jailbroken ones, underground usage... for hacking aps (bruteforce WEP stuff, instant hotspot takeover proxy apps, sniffers, etc.) and contributions to such. Apps as peeking into other's iPhones....
But it's kinda moot now, walking into a blue-chip-roller bar and seeing what an iPhone user us doing if you have a hijack package installed and sit yourself next to a router antennae.
I like android's sdk. Hope the manufacturers really stick to the program. - daschupa, on 09/29/2008, -3/+5Well, speaking as an insane person, I don't see the problem.
- MattBD, on 09/29/2008, -0/+2I can't get my head around the whole idea of Apple not allowing apps that compete with the functionality of their own ones. How is this a good idea? Imagine Microsoft did this with Windows so you could only use IE as your web browser - they'd really be shooting themselves in the foot.
The way forward for mobile phones as computers is through being open. Apple seem determined to deny this, and just as Android is making an appearance. If Apple don't change this decision, then it seems likely that Android apps will soon grow to outclass their iPhone counterparts - you'll have a much more vibrant software ecosystem that encourages experimentation and development. - Laminarcissus, on 09/29/2008, -1/+3Steve?
- inactive, on 09/30/2008, -1/+3Several.
- etx313, on 09/29/2008, -1/+3I beg to differ.
- EtherGnat, on 09/29/2008, -1/+2I don't deny the importance of the App Store to the success of the iPhone, but what is revolutionary about a software store for a mobile device? Many such stores exist for Windows Mobile, Palm, RIM, and Symbian applications. The App Store is evolutionary at best, and actually regressive at worst.
- alansky, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1The headline is inflammatory and completely overstates the case. Yes, a few developers are definitely bent out of shape over Apple's rejection of their iPhone apps. That's a few developers out of thousands, potentially. Considering the large amounts of cash that many other developers are harvesting from the iTunes App Store, I'd say that dealing with Apple's approval process, whether it seems entirely fair or not, is simply an occupational hazard if you want to play this game. Back in the days of the California gold rush, was every would-be gold miner guaranteed that their efforts would be rewarded with cash? Not a chance! Life is uncertain. Get used to it.
- Ribbys, on 09/29/2008, -0/+1I have an iPhone and overall am happy with it, but I dont agree with Apple being so heavy handed about competing apps. Apple may never bring a full featured e-mail client, or calendar app so I would expect some dev to do so, just as has been done on Palm OS. Big mistake IMO, and other OS's will benefit. Also the longer this goes on, the more likely I will get around to jailbreaking. I haven't done so yet because of the firmware upgrades coming so often.
- r3zonance, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Two.
Podcaster dev and NetShare (NullRiver) - Ribbys, on 09/29/2008, -0/+1there is something weird going on yeah, but talk at howardforums.com is that is a clean up. Hopefully they bring back those viewing options because Im not buying any more apps until then.
- avg_bear, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Something I've found interesting with the masses of iPhone 3G owners, is that most of the apps they're downloading and subsequently showing off, are seemingly useless. Like iBeer and the lightsaber one, whatever it's called. My point is, I don't see that many truly innovative apps out there anyway. A few cool ones, yes. But it won't be long before that novelty wears off. So Apple is denying hard-working devs just to guard their enormous piece of the pie? Seriously? What do they expect to keep the app store afloat? Games? Virtual flashlights?
I've been dying for an iPhone since day one, but also patiently waiting to see how the app store and Android pan out. Sadly an as-of-yet unreleased Android phone is looking much more palatable that an iPhone. -
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