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- northerncomfort, on 10/12/2007, -6/+42When I read on Digg about hordes of new iPods NOT selling, well, then I'll agree with you. Until then, I think it's safe to assume Apple is still doing well with the iPods.
- anthonyb415, on 10/12/2007, -11/+44Oh god! Everyone sell their AAPL shares, "thenativeraver" will never buy anything Apple! How can this company even make payroll without "thenativeravers" money!?
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -8/+38My shares are lovin' it, keep it coming!!
- dongiaconia, on 10/12/2007, -6/+28Wow, that's a great way to be open minded. Unless Apple is single handedly responsible for killing your dog, depleting the ozone, killing baby seals, dumping mercury into the ocean or something, what would make you decide to never buy a product from them, no matter how good the quality might be?
- MrTranscendence, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20What the hell? "Fagfest"? Are you ten years old?
Aside from the fact that the inicidence of homosexuality in Apple and Linux users is almost certainly about the same as that of the population at large, "fag" as an insult is immature, lacks wit, and lowers the level of discourse. I'd be disappointed if I weren't already aware that this place is festering with bratty children.
Here's a suggestion more to your level: Go. To. Hell. - XTrek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20I just bought a 30G iPod for my car. With an interface it plugs right into my stereo. Now I have virtually unlimited music in my VW.
Apple is selling these things as car stereo upgrades by the boat load! - dongiaconia, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Profits up 41% -- check out the after hours trading, the stock is up $3 since close, as of 2:45pm pacific.
- anthonyb415, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14If Apple isn't doing that well how do you explain:
- New 50-acre campus
- Two record braking quarters back-to-back
- Financial Investment spinoff "Braeburn" created to handle the $8 billion in cash
APPLE'S EARNINGS CLIMBED 41% and revenue jumped 34% on strong iPod sales this recent quarter. The stock closed today at $65.65 but is up by over $3 in after hours trading in response to this earnings call. - dongiaconia, on 10/12/2007, -9/+20So in your opinion, it has nothing to do with improving reliability by controlling the design of hardware and software? My guess is that OSX would run like crap if it had to support all the various 3rd party hardware manufacturers that Microsoft currently supports. Microsoft does a really good job with that. Maybe that's why they have more problems with security, they need to spend so much design time worrying about compatibility. Apple can focus more on features, security and overall user experience. In a way, I think it's a benefit that allows them to tightly couple the design processes. I just wish the product was less expensive.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Hey, hey, easy now! Break it up, break it up.
God smites OS fanboys, and you don't want to be smited, now do you? - lilrabbit129, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12"For instance, they don't want people to be able to run osx on any machine unless they buy it from them, but it's okay for windows to run on a mac. I will never bend over for proprietary software/hardware company."
OSX running on generic PCs would kill Apple's profits. The reason they released Boot Camp (guessing here) is that
1. It gives switchers a "safety net" to make them feel better.
2. A hardware sale is a hardware sale, no matter what OS its running.
3. It cost them next to nothing (payed an engineer a weeks' salary to write bootcamp or so)..
Makes sense to me... - haid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Growth in spite of the transition to Intel, it seems meaningful to me.
- paolonorte, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11as opposed to [fill in blank from VERY long list]?
- shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7if an analyst hypes up expectations to unbelievable growth, and the company doesnt perform as well as the analyst expected, who's at fault here? the analyst, or the company?
Apple has not stopped growing for even a minute. But the analysts keep expectations so high that the public is tricked into believing that the company is having a hard time performing, which simply isn't true. - macboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9sweet! 4% mac growth!
- aoe2bug, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11They don't have double standards you idiot - it is their choice to not sell OS X for your ***** Dell, and besides which it would be a bad business decision anyway. (whereas making their computers capable of running windows XP - possibly virtualized - will be great for their business)
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Yeah I have to purchase one of those head units for my iPod because the FM transmitter isn't all its cracked up to be. Plus controlling my iPod through the head unit would be much safer for those late night cross state trips.
- Logan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9You're just jealous you don't have a Mac, and aren't cool enough to figure out how to run Linux.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7hmmm, in january 2005 the stock was hovering around the 30 dollar mark, now it's hovering close to 70 dollars... you're right, they're investors are taking a beating...
- thatautguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5actually no. If the computer market as a whole grows by 4%, the market share stays the same. If the market grows less than 4%, Apple's market share grows.
And all of that of course doesn't even touch the topic of installed base; 4% market share does not mean "4% of all computers on people's desks". But that concept is usually a bit too much to handle for most people, including the media... - dongiaconia, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11Yea, so 4% growth on a a 4% market share brings the total market share to 4.16% yay!
- CRG000, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Somebody check my math but 8.5 million ipods over 90 days. I come up with 1.5 per second every second
- MySchizoBuddy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5please study economics 101, it will help you a lot.
- KentGeek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Regarding AAPL stock: Please be cautious if you're thinking of buying. This announcement was considered disappointing by the market, and while you'll see some heat overnight, by 2pm tomorrow, the stock is very likely to be down. (No, I'm not an expert, just an investor who has made many mistakes, and remembers the lessons.)
If this stock goes under 60, and I think it's possible in the next month or so, THEN buy as much as you can afford. If you think I'm full of baloney, and you have to own some now, at least please use a limit order on the purchase. - Venkman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Ha! Windows zealots are just as bad.
- DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Microsoft proved that long ago.
Zingggg! - Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Nearly 1.1 per second! There's 7,776,000 sceonds in 90 days.
- constantine11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4One final point. As an Apple investor, a deeper than normal seasonal drop-off may suggest consumers are disenchanted with current products or that everyone bought an iPod for Christmas. Seeing this quarter-over-quarter trend, an investor might anticipate discounts or growing inventory. A static comparison of first quarter 2005 versus first quarter 2006 would not convey that information.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Apple doesn't want you running OSX on 3rd party PCs because they make their money on the hardware! Mac OSX is just the software part of the deal. Without the tight software/hardware integration Apple would just be another pricey Dell.
- apersaud, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6They sold 14 MILLION last quarter alone too!
- bdubz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Something happened last quarter that helped iPod sales... Christmas! Of course iPod sales were down quarter over quarter. They were expected to be!
- JasonPrini, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Would selling a $150 OS to say... 15% of Windows users to use on their non-Apple hardware really hurt Apple at all? It costs a lot less dupe and ship software than it does for even the cheapest iPod. And that's $150 every 12-18 months...
Is there $150 profit in an iPod {including the cost of making that sale}? - rtcreg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Not a surprising statistic to anyone who rides the subway in NYC. Last summer it looked like iPod mini's were being handed out when riders bought their fare cards. They were everywhere. And, yes, they're still around.
- Venkman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Maybe, maybe not. Depends on if Apple wants to take that risk.
- MySchizoBuddy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3u don't compare with the previous quarter, u compare with the same quarter previous year.
In other word Holiday seaon of 2005 will be compared with holiday season of 2006 NOT with anyother quarter in the same year. - MySchizoBuddy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Sir,
Shopping crazy season SHOULD be compared with shopping crazy season ONLY.
Shopping not-crazy season SHOULD be compared with shopping not-crazy season ONLY. It makes sense.
comparing Shopping not-crazy season to shopping crazy season results in shopping season ALWAYS winning.
u compare similar quarter from previous years so people buying habits don't affect the results. this is how its is done since stock market was created.
the trend you will plot will be one quarter from 2006 to same quarter in 2005 to same quarter in 2004 and so on. that will tell you if they performed better or worse. - constantine11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Isn't 8.5 million down from around 14 sold during the most recent holiday season (4th quarter)?
Nevertheless, considering the Apple hasn't introduced a new iPod in 2 quarters, that's not bad. It will be interesting to see the numbers if Apple launches the so-called "true video iPod." - anthonyb415, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I like my iPod and Powerbook - Apple got my money
I'm waiting for the 6th gen iPod as well as the Powermac replacement - Apple WILL GET my money - cyclotron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Thousand or so? Try 42 million.
- althe3rduww, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Unstable drivers are the biggest culprit in windows instability. Incase you didn't know.
- constantine11, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3You actually should compare sequential quarters when you're trying to understand performance of the same product line within a company that turns over products as rapidly as Apple. A first quarter 2005 versus first quarter 2006 comparison only has value if the point is to suggest Apple has seasonal demand. IMO, Apple's demand is less purely seasonal than related to new product launches.
Also the headline seems to suggest that 8.5 million iPods (in any one quarter) is a miraculous feat. My point was that if you consider Apple's own fourth quarter numbers, 8.5 million is hardly stunning. - geekee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"Wrong. I'd rather sell a $2000 Mac to 90% of Windows users than $150 software boxes to 100% of the computer market. OS X is the Mac hardware's core advantage."
90% of PC users are not stupid enough to spend $2000 on a computer that they could have gotten for a lot less without the Apple logo. Quit forcing users to buy Apple hardware to run their software, and see if the hardware really stands on its own merit. - gukid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Exactly, shipped is VERY different from sold. I've heard that people are seeing iPod vending machines show up. Those are full of unsold merchandise, which are a loss to the company.
No Digg, reporting as inaccurate. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Completely expected with the intel transition. The transition will likely retard their growth in this quarter as well - afterwhich Im betting on the Mac market showing significant growth. Right now the stock is a bargain, if you are willing to wait 10-12 months for it to pay off.
- jhuynh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3You guys are so funny. Just because I said Shipped != Sold doesn't mean I"m an apple hater or anything. There is a BIG difference between shipped and sold. You see all those ipods sitting at Best Buy or whatever? Those are included in the SHIPPED ipods. They haven't been sold yet! They might have been sold to the retailers but that doesn't mean anything about how many ipods are actually being sold to consumers.
The funny thing is I HAVE AN IPOD, I'm just pointing out to you that SHIPPED != SOLD - Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ignore this a-hole. He only comments on Apple stories. He is on some kind of twisted crusade.
http://digg.com/users/djnick/comments - iWorks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Granted!
- iWorks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wonder if apple ships out product for free to the companies requesting product.
- schmeebis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love the exclamation point at the end of this article title. 8 million sounds like so much!!!111one It must be a new record! Oh, wait, they sold 14 million last quarter. Granted, that was a holiday quarter, but still. No digg.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Wrong. I'd rather sell a $2000 Mac to 90% of Windows users than $150 software boxes to 100% of the computer market. OS X is the Mac hardware's core advantage.
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