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- longman2g, on 10/12/2007, -1/+38that is the way it should be. It shouldn't be see who can find something new the fastest, but also who can put a coherent thought together. Some of the titles/subtitles people make are just stupid/biased and there is no need to have them. I don't consider it a dupe unless it has already made it to the front page.
- dominolover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Sadly, this wont work on the older iPod's.
From Apple: ''The new 1.1.1 software update for iPod nano and Fifth Generation iPod''
I guess they just dont care about the hearing of users with older iPods :| - dleifelohcs, on 10/12/2007, -17/+33Dupe, but this one's at least relevant and well written, and a link straight to the source.
Digged - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16I can't tell you how many times I've accidentally hit the scroll wheel without music playing and had my ear drums abused when it starts.
- tehJR, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17http://www.apple.com/sound/
- ndm007, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Yeah, I saw the dupe's but thought a link to Apple's official article was more useful in explaining it.
- u3b3rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7i'd be willing to bet most kids know more about computers than their parents, and can probably just reset the ipod and turn it off.
- SystemHasFailed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6You and *I* as adults have common sense.. kids don't. They really do NOT get that subjecting their ears to 100db really will cause them to need hearing aids later - maybe 20 years later - but still. That is why the volume cap is needed. I mean, most parents who do buy iPods for their kids are probably buying them for teenagers and it's nice to think they'll 'do the right thing'.. Still, they don't neccesarily have the sense to know exactly what is and is not "too loud".
- Omega697, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9That's what the "hold" button is for.
- SystemHasFailed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7No they can add it. And actually my understanding is that given the DSPs in the older iPod it's even easier than in the 5th gen.
They're just not going to because they want to encourage the sale of the new iPod. Standard practice with Apple until enough people bitch to get it added to the older models. And even then they do so begrudgingly. - mxpxpx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6are you going say hey mom, theres a new patch, here take my ipod and set the comb for the volume.
- DarkEnder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It's made so a parent could control the volume of the music that their child is listening to. There were news articles about how loud mp3 players could be damaging ears, and this is Apple's solution.
- sych0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5mGee, Im assuming its so kids dont go deaf. Perhaps you're already deaf as my photo ipod is plenty loud. ;)
- chrisbtig, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11I don't need to install the software update because my iPod already has a "volume limit" feature... it's my own frackin' common sense!!
- Spatulated, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6let kids blow out their ears, if you don't let kids mess up, they will be stupid forever
- CheeseheadDave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4When I plug my iPod into my car adapter, it disables the volume control and I have to use the volume control on the adapter instead. Sometimes my wife or I forget this and turn it up anyway. Later, if I plug in headphones and forget that the volume was turned up, I get blasted. This would be a nice bit of insurance.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think it's a great thing, obvisouly you don't have to use it, but for some people it's nice. And I know most kids are smarter with computers than their parents, but at least Apple's trying. I know way too many kids who listen to their ipod and I can hear it when standing several feet away.
- opti, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I play my iPod through a car adapter all the time. I hate having to set the volume to "just about two-thirds of maximum, but maybe a little more, like 70% of max..." to get precisely line-level output. (too high and I get bad clipping). It would be great to know that when the volume is maxed, I'm getting line-level output.
- TheIguana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Good! I have seen far to many kids who push their iPods volume to the max.
Iggy - UprightJoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I don't understand why people are pissed off about this. Apple has a class action lawsuit filed against them related to volume levels and hearing loss. Would you rather them patch it so that you can elect to limit the volume on your iPod or would you rather have them patch it so that the volume was involuntarily capped at say 75% of the current max?
This change only adds new functionality. Nothing has been taken away. If you want to blast your eardrums into next week, you still can. What's the big deal? I think they are doing the right thing.
And as for people saying this is a sign of weak parenting, gimme a freaking break. If I had a kid with an iPod, I'd use it in a second. Why make it a point of argument? I can hear it now.
"Is your iPod up too loud?"
"No."
"Yes it is, I can hear it."
"So?".
"Turn it down before I beat you"
"Fine."
Repeat 2x times per day until kid goes off to college. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Um'.. I don't understand why the volume needs to be limited.... in fact it's already too low. I have to boost the volume of mine.
Of course, you can limit the volume by just turning it down. But that wouldn't be fun would it. - madholepunch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4WHAT? COULD YOU REPEAT THAT?
- deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3As a fomer kid who wouldn't turn down their Walkman and now has a ~8Khz ringing in both ears all the time, this is good thing.
- Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Maybe this has something to do with that case about the guy that claimed he was able to lose his hearing by listening to his Ipod too loud (but never stated that he actualy did). I don't remember hearing how that case turned out (No pun intended). Maybe this is their answer to it?
I won't be updating my Ipod though, I've got linux running on it, so updating the stock OS will wipe the linux off... - u3b3rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5why? because people are stupid and we have too many lawyers (or at least too many people that use them).
- LoungeActx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5they are getting sued both in the US and in France for letting the volume level exceed "safe" listening volume. To be honest, these people are just trying to make a quick buck. This is the reason why we have sooooo many warning labels on pretty obvious things. Ex: Don't ingest antifreeze. (no ***** sherlock.)
- Eschel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I agree on the accidental deafening. I'm pretty disapointed that they didn't include an update for the earlier versions of the iPod. I've got a 4th gen and would like the ability to put my own cap on volume.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This update fixed my 30gb Video iPod regarding it's "Now Playing" screen :D
- Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -0/+38 and already has an Ipod? Wow... I could see a use there I guess, but I mean how many younger kids actualy have Ipods?
What kind of music does an 8 year old listen to anyways...? - Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Omega697: Did you always do what your parents told you to? Wait... Let me re-phrase that. 'DO you always do what your parents tell you to?' No, exactly. Sometimes it dosn't work. Thats where things like this could come in handy. Though it isn't very practical in this case since you could easily just restore the Ipod and it would probably remove the lock...
- hadem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I am glad that Apple did it this way instead of just limiting how far we can turn the volume up on our iPods.
- arnaudh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Spoken like someone who doesn't have kids.
- CheeseheadDave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Although why does it only affect the 60GB model and not the 30GB model?
- Omega697, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Here's a groundbreaking idea:
Instead of trying to force your child to do correct things via technology, why not sit down and have a talk with them and explain to them why it's a bad idea to listen to your iPod on full blast.
God forbid we actually speak to our children or teach them anything. - cyclotron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2See how retarded people in this country are. You have a volume knob, use it. I swear - all you people need the government or someone else to take of all your individual responsibilties. Useless.
- ryan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This isn't just for stupid teenagers. I find the feature of great use. The iPod has a tendency to switch volume levels around if in a bag or a pocket, so I find this a great way to circumvent that problem. I've already had my e2c buds turn up to the max on me because of slippery hands and the click wheel. It wasn't very pleasant.
- EvilMinx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I have an eight year old child who has an ipod.
I think it’s good that parents can protect their children’s ears.
Dig. - longman2g, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7because there is no need to see someone typing dupe, its off topic from the article, takes up space, and it just doesn't matter that someone else posted it first--see my previous comment on that last reason.
- lysdexic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I connect my iPod to a hardwired FM modulator in my car and it's always a balancing act to get the volume level set close to max so that the output isn't clipping but still sending a hot enough signal to be heard well. This feature is a great way to help control that. Unfortunately, I have a 4th gen.
- sporktek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Nope. I'm sorry, there is no fix for the iPod shuffle.
I kid, I KID! - Perc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I like this feature. Now they should figure out a way to autodetect different headphones and allow the user to set different max levels accordingly :)
I switch between a pair of Sennheiser HD200 closed cans at home and a set of Koss The Plug's when I'm outside. The Koss plugs are plenty loud enough even when the volume is set as low as it goes. The Sennheisers on the other hand require ~75% on the volume scale, if not more. You can guess what's happened a number of times when switching headphones... - arnaudh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2One word: kids.
- Zodzilla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm glad that this feature is here. This is a godsend for anyone that's ever been on an airplane trying to listen to their music. When I was younger I used to continuously turn the volume up when I was flying without realising that it was potentially damaging to my ears. Luckily I'm not hard of hearing (yet) so now I know better then to raise the volume when in a noisy area. But this feature is really for those who do turn up their volume in noisy areas and don't realise it's doing possibly permanent eardrum damage. It's also really good for parents who want to control the volume of their kids' players as kids don't know any better.
I also can't see why people are freaking out about this addition because that's what it is an _addition_, it's an option that you can turn off and on and doesn't subtract anything from your previous listening experience, so why do people complain?
Now if there was only some way to prevent idiots for turning their radios up to max volume when they're in their stupid SUV's... - vannoy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just installed the new new firmware on my 5g 60gig and have not had the 30 second freeze on any videos made using Videora..
- steve693, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Nice compromise by Apple. A forced volume reduction would be lame.
But none of this really matters to me, I listen to my Ipod at full volume at all times anyway. - HackWithRamzi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I also have tinnitus (chronic ringing of the ears). It sucks.
- kortiz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1haha, that was sweet
- craigtheguru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I bet this is tied to the programmability of the later iPods. For example, these latest models also feature controls for the iPod Hi-Fi and iPod Radio Remote. All of these use custom iPod menus.
- webwalker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not a bug in the ipod, its a bug in the mp4 wrapper around the h.264 used by slipshod codec developers like videora.
I spent months being pissed about this until someone with some programming mojo explained it to me. Nota Bene: Images encoded with Handbrake (h.264b13) have the MP4 wrapper constructed correctly. I watched three videos I encoded this way last night on my 60gb ipod.
What I'm more racked about is the fact that the updater refers to the volume limiter and "big fixes" but because the creepy bastards at Apple don't publish a changelog, the only way to know what they have changed is to install the patch and pray they didn't break something else. Grrrr. For Pete's sake, even MSFT publishes changelogs.... - tomi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yesss, finally. Thanks. :)
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