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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+101At 802.11n speeds it should get on quickly.
- meepus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+34It's not that it's expensive, it's that it costs money at all. Software that enables something that was already built into the hardware in the first place should not cost money. If I have a wireless G card, and it only worked with B to start with... and then linksys charged me ANY amount of money to 'upgrade' it to its originally intended functionality, I would want to bitchslap them back. That comparison applies here. I'm not saying that Apple is crap or anything else... just that this particular situation is flawed.
- andrewcod, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32Wonder how long it'll be before this is on torrents...
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -8/+37http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/894661/878591/
$2... ***** off. - sputza, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Direct link to the torrent:
http://www.demonoid.com/files/download/HTTP/894661/775222 - mr.hostility, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22I would rather donate that $2 towards an open source project, than pay $2 for a firmware update that should be free.
- HalBSure, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18I can't afford $2.00
Does this mean I have to throw my computer away? - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19You never see licenses like that with Windows products, since it could potentially cover hundreds of thousand of computers depending on the size of your botnet!
- Aero1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18thats a 100% more than Stevie's salary
- jmreid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16From the site:
"Note: The software license for the 802.11n Enabler software allows you to install and use it on all computers under your ownership or control." - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21I bet there will be some fanboys on here who buy this without even giving a thought to whether their other networking equipment is n enabled.
- DarkXanthos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13*inserts foot into mouth*
- Aero1, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17i hate macdaddy23
- DarkXanthos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11So if everyone would be so kind as to email me your IP address and network login info, I can save you two dollars. Oh yeah and if you wouldn't mind adding me as an admin as well... Username: DarkXanthos PW: JFH3sk!@sk9
Thanks! - goat2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11quietly huh
- Yoshi39, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Decoded link from the post above me
http://rapidshare.com/files/14101676/AirMac_Extreme_802.11n_Enabler.dmg - miniboss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Its weird because this is probably the first case ever where there isn't one good excuse for why this shouldn't be pirated.
- miniboss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Does anyone feel that by supporting this "fee" we are giving Apple the go ahead to implement these sort of "upgrade costs" in the future? Obviously $2 isn't much but who's to say they won't charge $5 to make a DVD burner into a dual-layer burner or $10 to enable 4cores or $30 to continue using Boot Camp.
We all love Apple because they make great products. But in cases like this then I think we are making a stronger message by "pirating" this update rather than paying for it. - scotty588, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I don't know if its on torrents but it's already on some forums.
- brianez21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8MD5 (AirMac_Extreme_802.11n_Enabler.dmg) = 587cccaa92a52994b6e9a7e11acfbbba
- fracai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8no you didn't, that was a general security update
Open up Network Utility, select Network Interface (en1). Does the model list 802.11 a/b/g/n ? Didn't think so - HappyPig, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Not long. It's about 200k and so pretty easy to email as well (supposedly).
- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10umm, his salary is $1.
- Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11@WiZZla
I've read that the charge is just a legal thing, as they aren't allowed to add notable features to a product after they've sold it, for tax or something, so they have to sell it as an upgrade.
I'm inclined to believe that - it's not like Apple to charge only a small price.
I don't think they'd really mind if you pirated it. - msgreenf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6it only works on the C2Duo's
- StephenCIreland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6easiest torrent ever, now to buy an 802.11n access point
- childprey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Mandatory "NO U" response with tongue-in-cheek /b/ reference
- superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10You might well download it on the off chance you'll run across some N enabled stuff out in the wild, even before you have such equipment at home...
Also if you run into someone else with another Mac it could make for a fast ad-hoc network to transfer images or other large files. - doce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5don't blame apple for this one. blame the overly aggressive legislature for their knee-jerk response to accounting principals in the post-Enron era.
Sure, there's conflicting opinions as to whether they "had" to, but that's part of the problem. I've asked every accountant I know, and they all give me a different reason for whether or not Apple would have to charge for this given SOP 97-2 or EITF.
And, really, think about it... at $2, across the relatively small market of customers even eligible for this... this isn't a "quick score" opportunity for Apple. they don't stand to make any even vaguely significant sum of money off this. Liberally taken, maybe there's a 2 million Macs out there that can even use this patch. of those, you'd be out of your gourd to say 25% will need the N patch at all, and most of those will buy the Airport Extreme and, thus, get it free. Let's say 10% of all owners buy it; that's $400,000 bux. It's not free, even for Apple, to process a credit card transaction, but an average high-volume seller is going to pay about a $0.20 per transaction... that brings us down to $358,000. Add to that the small cost of bandwidth, plan administration, accounting, and post sales support (that's three people, at least, working on it part time... at least) and you're probably only looking at $150,000 to $200,000 into Apple's coffers.
No offense... $200,000 (or even the first number, $400,000) is not a number anyone at Apple is going to give a rat's ass about, unless perhaps it's one big freakin' sale delivering several thousand Macs.... and even then, only the guys being paid commission on the sale are really going to care. No one's going to get commission on this, no one's going to care. Period.
Whether they're right, or not, they're doing this for fear of Sarbanes Oxley. - philipz78, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Wouldn't that be violating minimum wage laws?
- WiZZLa, on 10/12/2007, -23/+28Don't pirate this! Apple & Steve Jobs need your money. It's not like you paid for this when you bought the hardware.
- mrneutron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Miniboss: How exactly are Apple going to charge $10 to enable 4 cores? Are they actually going to sell you a 4-core machine for the price of a 2-core machine, then charge you a measly $10 to get 4 cores? If so, it's a steal! Take your upgrade and run!
Apple sold its customers 802.11n cards ($85) and priced them like 802.11g cards ($25). You're still $58 ahead.
(ps; anyone know whether it's possible to delete your own digg comment? The one above, for example) - mrneutron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5How exactly are they going to "charge you $10 to unlock 4 cores"? Are they actually going to sell you a 4-core computer for the price of a 2-core? If so, that's a crazy bonus. Take your $10 upgrade and run!
- jsully, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Seriously - people need to stop appending "quietly" to submissions. Apple *publicly* released the update - since it's on their public website. Not everything requires a press release.
- dudemcgee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6From the WSJ
Apple Inc. recently told some customers they would have to pay $1.99 to download a software enhancement that enables a wireless-networking technology already included on some of its computers.
Apple's reason: Accounting rules forced it to make customers foot the bill for the enhancement.
That's an excuse, counter accounting experts and officials at the body that sets accounting rules, known as generally accepted accounting principles, or GAAP, for public and private companies. Rather, Apple is choosing to make customers pay so that it receives a particular accounting treatment it considers most favorable to it, they say. - somnambulist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ dpollitt - To even break even on the transaction, they'd have to charge at least $.30 to account for the credit card transaction fees. There's also a minimum amount of infrastructure and support (bandwidth, testing, etc.) that needs to be properly billed as this is a paid product, not a free upgrade. The rest of the $2.99 is probably to avoid any appearance of skirting SOX --- $2.99 is a reasonable price for the "product" under SOX, $.50 is not.
Not an accountant, just a guessing at the motives. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -16/+19It's not $2.00 ***** dollars it's ***** $2.00 or 2 ***** dollars, not both.
- b0neman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3For anyone that still RTFA, here's the SOX law on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes-Oxley_Act
Of course, if Cobert got to this entry, YMMV... - scotty588, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6lol same here.
Actually if you want it. I see it on usenet in a.b.mac.applications. AirMac_Extreme_802.11n_Enabler.dmg
*I DID NOT UPLOAD THIS - j_bellone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Unlock HARDWARE. The PHYSICAL hardware that you already PAID FOR.
- chadkazulu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well, there's always the substantial increase in effective range of one's wireless network.
and that's worth 2 bucks (+ a new router). - rtini, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3nope. that was a security fix.
- surfing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This title should be in all caps
- mobilehavoc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4For those of you who are clueless and are running out to buy an 802.11n router/access point think first if you really even need it.
Average cable modem speed - 6Mbps to 8Mbps
Average FiOS speed - 15Mbps to 30Mbps
802.11g speed - 54Mbps to 108Mbps (SuperG,etc)
802.11n MAX theoretical - 540Mbps.
Unless you plan on moving large files or streaming video WITHIN your wireless network...moving from 802.11g to 802.11n WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE including downloading torrents or porn.
Sorry but I see too many people rush out to buy routers/gear that is overkill for just surfing the net. - StarManta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3There's some back and forth between apple and some financial experts about whether it's required or not. I'm inclined to believe that it's probably not required, but that Apple is erring on the side of caution right now. When you pull away from getting a speeding ticket, do you drive 55mph for a while even though the speed limit is 65? I do... it's not required, but *just in case*....
The only reason I think this is that $1.99 for each of the few hundred or thousand (unlikely to be very many) users that pay for it is a VERY small amount of money - not nearly worth the bad press they've been getting, and that they had to have known they were going to get. - macdaddy23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > Network Utility (Info: En1) check at bottom to see what you have.
- udubnate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Software update or Firmware update?
- plgonzalez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3it makes no sense to get this unless... 1 you have an N access point
2 have an airport extreme
3 have an apple tv - stalefries, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Buried for "PhanBoyz".
- sputza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3239.03kb to be correct.
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