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- DraggingTheLake, on 04/03/2008, -3/+169Who the bloody hell was going to Wal-Mart to buy music?
- rspeed, on 04/03/2008, -8/+165Wow. Less than 5 years and in a saturated market. That's pretty impressive! Let's hope Apple will throw their weight around in our favor a bit more (like getting rid of DRM).
- boogie, on 04/03/2008, -5/+156It just proves that
- when you make it easy for the customer,
- with (almost) honest prices,
it pays off in the long run!
(All potential new service providers, please read the line above before doing -anything- :) ) - inactive, on 04/03/2008, -1/+115This is great news. I hate having to get all dressed up to go to Wal-Mart.
- julianwan, on 04/03/2008, -10/+102I hate Walmart, and love iTunes, so this for me is good news.
- RonAcierno, on 04/03/2008, -6/+68Congrats to Apple, should be interesting to see how they plan to grow even bigger now that they are number 1. Im thinking offering the App store on iPhone/Touch and using iTunes on desktop to distribute apps will help make people even more comfortable with buying music digitally off of iTunes.
- SenorCardgage74, on 04/03/2008, -4/+60Nickelback fans.
- inactive, on 04/03/2008, -3/+58in 2002 i told my music biz prof that everything would migrate to the net and he thought i was wrong
- inactive, on 04/03/2008, -8/+56***** the RIAA
- julianwan, on 04/03/2008, -7/+47they are already doing that, heard of iTunes Plus?
- RyeBrye, on 04/03/2008, -1/+35Lots of people. Wal-Mart sells their CD's AT A LOSS to get people into the store.
- inactive, on 04/03/2008, -4/+35Take it Wal-Mart, take it hard.
- pharmakon, on 04/03/2008, -1/+26http://www.flickr.com/photos/billadams/321845104/
- chochazel, on 04/03/2008, -1/+26That's because the other 3 music labels are refusing to offer DRM free tracks to iTunes in order to reduce their influence and position in the music industry (they hate flat rate downloads).
It doesn't look like it's working, and it seems like an incredibly arrogant conceit, with the music industry in the state that it is, to use these strong-arm tactics at the expense of consumer choice.
Inside of the US you can get DRM free music on Amazon, outside of the US the quickest most reliable method is Limewire and bittorrent etc. It's unbelievable that after everything that's happened the music industry would even for a second allow piracy to offer a superior product to legitimate businesses. They've learnt *nothing*. - fkr3, on 04/03/2008, -2/+25It doesn't include the entire catalogue yet. Maybe 2/3 of what I buy isn't available in Plus yet.
- MacParrot, on 04/03/2008, -0/+18Well no, since "retailer" implies that goods were sold legally
- nickspohn, on 04/03/2008, -5/+23You're making Steve Blush
Congrats Apple - dustinmacdonald, on 04/03/2008, -2/+20Blame the labels, who don't want Apple to have market dominance.
- peestandingup, on 04/03/2008, -0/+17Americans. Whether we wanna believe it or not, most Americans shop at ***** places like Wal-Mart for LOTS of their day to day stuff.
- Bonksnp, on 04/03/2008, -2/+18Makes sense. Apples music store is cheaper and more convenient then going to Wal-Mart. Not to mention Wal-Mart only sells "censored" music, which imho, takes away from the music your listening to.
- vtbarrera, on 02/03/2009, -1/+17This is great, because the "wal-mart" cds were always edited; I never figured out how wal-mart sold more music than itunes in the first place.
- inactive, on 04/03/2008, -1/+17It's better if you imagine Sean Connery saying it.
- Gabberwok, on 04/03/2008, -2/+18Hopefully Apple can leverage this into forcing the record companies to bring DRM-free music to iTunes. The fact that most of them are only giving it to Amazon and not iTunes stinks to me of anti-competitive behavior.
- stellarceltic, on 04/03/2008, -4/+19Heh. In 3 months, when Apple is still ahead of Amazon, you'll be nowhere to be found. Bet.
- djcreamy, on 04/03/2008, -6/+20Poor people. Filthy, filthy poor people
- cthellis, on 04/03/2008, -0/+13At this point I think they'll be able to. The biggest three labels are still holding it from Apple (and others) in hopes of making Amazon competitive. At this point, however, they can't deny iTunes momentum, and all it will really spell out is lost sales and lower-quality music through iTunes.
If Amazon MP3 is really flying off the shelves that'd be one thing, but I don't think they're matching iTunes' percentage growth even coming from the small volumes they have right now. - Lokishot, on 04/03/2008, -8/+21The real #1 music retailer is Pirate Bay with is low, low rates.
- GuitaristTom, on 04/03/2008, -4/+16you can buy music?
- smartah, on 04/03/2008, -0/+11iTunes Plus songs cost the same as their DRM counterparts now.
- tomato1324, on 04/03/2008, -1/+12if they could, they would. you can thank the RIAA for that.
- bweltondav, on 04/03/2008, -1/+12me too, that's why i shop at the dollar store.
- cthellis, on 04/03/2008, -0/+11Darrell Hammond, man!
- jason469, on 04/03/2008, -1/+11If this doesn't convince the RIAA and all the other old school record companies to embrace the online music culture...nothing will.
- sirbeta, on 04/03/2008, -0/+10I really want to see the rest of that article.
- metapop, on 04/03/2008, -1/+10next on the agenda is becoming the #1 movie rental retailer. i love renting movies on the apple tv. the interface is beautiful, the process is easy, it's incredibly addictive.
- piratearggghhh, on 04/03/2008, -0/+9I've purchased a couple of songs from Amazon and the process was surprisingly simple and works flawlessly - the songs were a surprisingly good 256kps. DRM free and 99 cents.
- Aggaman, on 04/03/2008, -0/+9Agreed. I spend far too much on the iTunes store, but music is addictive and you can't get any better than instant gratification. Imagine how civilization would end if people could get drugs and sex as easily as this. ;)
- scotty321, on 04/03/2008, -1/+10This is not Apple's fault. The music labels won't let them get rid of it.
- wkcrazyhorse, on 04/03/2008, -0/+8In what way is it a monopoly?
- whatever01, on 04/03/2008, -0/+8yeah because apple has shown it's inability to create a quality user experience. /hahaha
- scotty321, on 04/03/2008, -1/+9Apple can't become the #1 movie rental retailer because the movie studios are -- amazingly -- even more greedy than the record labels, and they will NOT allow Apple (or any other online digital retailer, for that matter) to rent movies at a fair price with reasonable terms. $3.99 for a movie rental that expires 24 hours after you watch it? This is not only extremely expensive, but it is simply not acceptable to consumers, especially consumers that are paying Netflix $14/month for unlimited rentals with no due dates! The movie studios are comprised of a bunch of greedy bastards who would rather watch digital movie rentals fail than to give consumers what they want at a reasonable price. F*** you, movie studios!
- Dumbledorito, on 04/03/2008, -1/+8The following is NOT an elitist comment: Those with tape players in their cars and trucks.
Country music especially has held on to the cassette tape longer than anyone because they knew their customers. This was the case at least a few years ago; are they still available at Wally World? - RooDoG, on 04/03/2008, -5/+12What I love best about iTunes as that I can EASILY discover new music by artists I never heard of then buy it. This is why I will never set foot in a record store again, unless I really really need to have the full album in my hands. Now we just need to get rid of the RIAA and give artist more of the money they deserve.
- fr0mundacheese, on 04/03/2008, -1/+7Cool! you made the story about you somehow.
- ben_nushmut, on 04/03/2008, -0/+6Too easy!
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_14
Archos
AT&T Tilt
BlackBerry 8100 | 8300 | 8800
Creative Zen
iPhone
iPod
Neuros MPEG 4 Recorder | Neuros MPEG 4 Recorder 2 | Neuros OSD
Nokia N Series, Nokia 5300 and Nokia 5700
PlayStation 3
PlayStation Portable
Sansa Connect (with firmware upgrade)
Sony Ericsson
Some Sony Walkman models
Wii (with system software update, available early December 2007)
Xbox 360
Zune
Can you quit your bitching about MP4 now?
By the way, that service you're thinking of might be eMusic, where you pay a monthly fee and get a certain number of MP3 download credits. Good if you're into indie music, but the tracks on Amazon and iTunes (via iTunes Plus) have a higher bitrate if that's an issue.
People use the iTunes Store because it's right there with their music library (if they're using iTunes to catalog it) and the store interface it pretty easy to navigate. Amazon's is okay, but it's not nearly as well-designed for this sort of functionality IMO. And before you complain about some pro-Apple bias on my part, know that I haven't bought any DRM'd music since iTunes Plus arrived. I either use that, go to Amazon, or get the physical CD from Amazon or a B&M store.
I don't care which store I support, and I don't want any one of them to "win" the market. Competition is good for consumers, so take a couple extra minutes, and you might be able to find yourself a better deal by shopping around. - mjsteinbaugh, on 04/03/2008, -0/+6Now Apple needs the labels to drop DRM entirely and go lossless on the iTunes store.
- StuartGibson, on 06/14/2009, -1/+7I think the reason it isn't working is that, at this stage, music purchase downloads aren't being driven by geeks the way they were 5 or 6 years ago (I had an eMusic subscription back in the day where it was all you can eat). Now, the bulk of the music is being bought by "real" people, teenagers with iPods, parents, non-technical types. They buy from iTunes because it is the easiest shopping experience, it has everything they want to purchase and, most importantly, they have no idea what DRM is, or even that it exists on a large amount of iTunes music. This is a testament to consumer ignorance about such matters, but also to the relatively unrestrictive nature of the iTunes DRM that most people (one or two computers tops, maybe a couple of iPods) will never actually encounter something that stops them using the music in the way they want.
Because of this, there is no advantage to getting DRM free files for the people who make up the largest percentage of the customer base in iTunes, therefore it isn't a barrier to entry or purchase and will not help the other retailers, specifically Amazon, catch up with the juggernaut of the iTunes store. - cthellis, on 04/03/2008, -0/+5HAHA TEH FUNNEYS!
--ahem--
Yes. For years. Though it's a ball, not a wheel. (Your comfort may vary.) - chimaera2005, on 04/03/2008, -0/+5Yes, censored as in they edit all the ass, bitch, *****, piss, *****, *****, *****, and ***** out of the music they sell via retail or downloads.
- macbot, on 04/03/2008, -7/+12Not so fast... this NPD data is from January! Apple announced they were number 2 in the US at the end of February. So sez Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/03/debunk-apple-it ...
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