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- TBoneFever, on 03/14/2008, -5/+69From Ars Technica article http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/03/ ...
"Thank you for expressing interest in the iPhone Developer Program. We have received your enrollment request. As this time, the iPhone Developer Program is available to a limited number of developers and we plan to expand during the beta period. We will contact you again regarding your enrollment status at the appropriate time."
Doesn't look like a rejection to me. ***** TUAW for confusing the facts intentionally to cause controversy. "Thank you but no thank you" sounds a lot different than "We will contact you again regarding your enrollment status at the appropriate time." - automate, on 03/14/2008, -2/+58Ars Technica has another viewpoint
http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/03/ ... - EvilAnimator, on 03/14/2008, -8/+51DON'T PANIC! Jeez, this is a temporary restriction inside the beta period. Apple is just keeping the size of the beta program manageable, then everyone will be let in later. But feel free to scream "ZOMG!" and overreact if it really makes you feel better.
- Octaman, on 03/14/2008, -5/+44"Thank you for expressing interest in the iPhone Developer Program. We have received your enrollment request. As this time, the iPhone Developer Program is available to a limited number of developers and we plan to expand during the beta period. We will contact you again regarding your enrollment status at the appropriate time."
Bad reporting... TUAW are douchebags. - Blackmane, on 03/14/2008, -11/+49Seems a bit pointless rejecting people. Steve said it was a for profit venture so they could make money, here people are ready to put time an effort into the program to make them money and they turn them away. It seems like some body in Apple couldn't be bothered to test a lot of the programs that would come out so they rejected everyone.
On the other hand the jailbreak project has just received a whole load of annoyed developers. - neasteflorin, on 03/14/2008, -15/+46But why? Don't they want developers? Remember what Ballmer said: Developerz, developersz, developers!
- LuciferChaos, on 03/14/2008, -3/+27Of course I read the title asshat - I received a rejection letter but not *everyone* got rejected - did *you* RTFA?
- LiquidIse, on 03/14/2008, -6/+30Wrong company...
- BobakN, on 03/14/2008, -6/+28Everyone needs to calm down, as a lot of people are jumping to conclusions that they shouldn't be.
The letter that is being sent out is not a rejection letter. First of all, the application being referenced is to publish apps and use the app store, which is currently available for a very select few.
The letter continues to say that as the beta progresses, more people will be accepted into the program, and essentially that people should sit tight and stay tuned.
This is non-news. This is not a rejection. This is just a response email so that people know that their application has been received but Apple isn't quite ready for them yet. - Firehed, on 03/14/2008, -0/+16It means you don't get beta access to the new firmware. Once the program goes live in June, everyone will be able to pay their $99 to sell apps on the iPhone App Store.
Again - this is only relevant during the next few months when we're in a beta period. - LuciferChaos, on 03/14/2008, -3/+18Anyone here get accepted?
- DFENS, on 03/14/2008, -9/+23The want the appearance of wanting developers, but they don't want to allow open-source and free programs which would kill the profits their current dev's programs.
- InorganicMatter, on 03/14/2008, -0/+14Good point.
- bxblox, on 03/14/2008, -4/+17If its been less than two weeks you should return it.
- blondon, on 03/14/2008, -2/+13This is in reference to the $99 developer program... anyone can download the SDK... but if you want to be a developer that can debug on the iphone and release content to the store... then you probably got the rejection notice... I know I did..
- TBoneFever, on 03/14/2008, -1/+12They better hurry the ***** up then.
- TriZz, on 03/14/2008, -3/+14I've buried this story for inaccuracy. Thanks Automate.
- sjmulder, on 03/14/2008, -1/+11Chill off, you're just not in the beta program. Or MIGHT not be, because this really isn't a rejection letter. So go ahead and develop your iPhone apps, just for now (weeks or moths, depending on what happens next), you can't run on real hardware. Big deal. (e Except if you want to develop an OpenGL game, then you're pretty screwed. Kind of)
- blapierre, on 03/14/2008, -18/+28I just bought a $599 Mac Mini so I could develop iPhone apps and I got rejected. If Apple doesn't let me in I will have bought a $599 piece of crap and it will be the first and last Apple product I will ever buy.
- mannymix03, on 03/14/2008, -5/+14They aren't REJECTING everyone, I got one of the letters, you just are not going to be in the beta, they will open it up to everyone in june when firmware 2.0 comes out. They are only giving it to certain people for the BETA, everyone will get it once it is open to the public, so just keep programming on the free emulator, and come June your product will be ready to ship after you get your cert.
- cleverboy, on 03/14/2008, -1/+9NO ONE IS BEING REJECTED. PEOPLE NEED TO CALM DOWN.
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Dear Registered iPhone Developer,
Thank you for expressing interest in the iPhone Developer Program. We have received your enrollment request. As this time, the iPhone Developer Program is available to a limited number of developers and we plan to expand during the beta period. We will contact you again regarding your enrollment status at the appropriate time.
Thank you for applying.
Best regards,
iPhone Developer Program - Me1000, on 03/14/2008, -2/+10further more, the only reason to become part of the developer program is to be able to test your apps on an iPhone right now.
Of course later you will be able to add your apps to the store, but until then... - envex, on 03/14/2008, -4/+12I applied last week and got accepted.
- Mth3ory, on 03/14/2008, -0/+7I would be very surprised if they accept anyone until june. Even if they were to choose a limited number of teams - said teams would have an unfair advantage over everyone else. To keep it fair it's really an all or nothing game. Furthermore, Apple doesn't want to flat out release the 2.0 patch so my guess is that no one is accepted until June.
- cawpin, on 03/14/2008, -0/+7No it doesn't. If it's less than 2 weeks you can return it, period.
- Slimer, on 03/14/2008, -0/+7first e-harmony.... now apple....
- Tippis, on 03/14/2008, -7/+14Maybe you should have waited with your purchase until you knew if you were going to need it...
- wonderchemist, on 03/14/2008, -0/+7[diggCommentField setStringValue:@"Let's test to see if it's ObjC developers"]
- BobakN, on 03/14/2008, -1/+7Regardless, it is still not a rejection. This is a public beta with a private aspect. The point of my reply was to respond to the sensationalism of calling this a rejection to get people riled up when in realty this isn't even newsworthy.
- jakem1, on 03/14/2008, -1/+6Big deal. Why not let consumers decide if they want to download a particular app? How does it harm Apple if I write an ugly app that does what it does really damn well? How does it hurt Apple if I write a beautiful looking app that doesn't do anything?
- serif69, on 03/14/2008, -6/+11Has anyone considered that Apple hasn't set up their collection method for the $99 fee?
- natenovs, on 03/14/2008, -0/+5god that's fugly....
- bismark90, on 03/14/2008, -2/+7those who have been "accepted" are just getting emails saying thanks for signing up with the ADC to download the SDK, here is a link. those who have been "rejected" are getting emails saying thanks for signing up for the developer program, we'll let you know when it will be widely released. non-story.
- jakem1, on 03/14/2008, -1/+5What difference does it make to Apple if someone has the SDK but isn't 100% serious about developing an application? Why can't someone just use the SDK to tinker, or write an application for themselves without wanting to sell it?
- slickto, on 03/14/2008, -3/+7So true. These ***** think its just fine for apple to ***** on them, and they like it. There is no open source at all with apple. It's worse than any other company I can think of. Oh no - you can't do that on your ***** phone, that you own, and bought with your money.
- wobegon, on 03/15/2008, -0/+4Apple: "Dear Registered iPhone Developer, Thank you for expressing interest in the iPhone Developer Program. We have received your enrollment request. As this time, the iPhone Developer Program is available to a limited number of developers and we plan to expand during the beta period. We will contact you again regarding your enrollment status at the appropriate time. Thank you for applying.”
Also...
Apple: "The iPhone Developer Program will initially be available to a limited number of developers in the U.S. and will expand to other countries in the coming months."
The sky is NOT falling. Give me a break. - johnpaul191, on 03/14/2008, -1/+5This sounds shady.... if anyone actually got the email, AND READ IT, the email said they were not in the first batch of the beta program. Nobody will be selling apps till June, but ANYONE can run the SDK already and create apps.
It has already been reported that Apple will be ramping up the number of developers so they can handle them as they sign up. If you have been paying ANY attention to Apple in the last few years, they did the same thing with the iTunes store. It opened with a few major labels, and once things were running smoothly they opened the doors to more and more and more and more artists/labels. - gidd, on 03/14/2008, -0/+4Problem is, it's more than just rejecting cert requests.
The paid program also includes the ability to run apps on the device itself, rather than in the simulator.
Unfortunately, the simulator doesn't include OpenGL ES support, and I can't imagine it'll be easy to test accelerometer support, multi-touch, or accurate performance capabilities.
So this effectively writes off any serious game development, until they open it up for everyone. - TheTSArt, on 03/14/2008, -0/+4The people replied with hostility about this email should have read more carefully before reacting.
That said, I think Apple should have handled the matter differently. This message should have been clearly stated during the process of signing up, not afterwards, as it's clear people will always overreact. - Alegoo92, on 03/14/2008, -5/+9You don't even know what's going on.. because you're just as far on the outside as anyone else.
- fjc8, on 03/14/2008, -0/+4Actually, Microsoft would give away the SDK for free and charge for the IDE...which is exactly what they do for Windows Mobile.
You can, of course, use any other IDE. - zetsurin, on 03/14/2008, -7/+11Today's thread algorithm: if (saying something nice about apple) voted up, else voted down. ***** apple fantards.
- Monk22, on 03/14/2008, -0/+4and your revolutionary product can be found where?
- wellyuk, on 03/14/2008, -4/+7"I just bought a $599 Mac Mini so I could develop iPhone apps"
He knew he would need it if he was going to develop iPhone applications. The SDK is only out for OS X, so he knew he would need a Mac to develop those applications. - zetsurin, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3Yes, funny isn't it. There seem to be Apple users and Apple users. I'm in the former group - I own a Macbook and iPhone yet see the deficiencies in Apple. Then there is the latter group, who are more of the iProduct type. They are sick people.
- macniatic, on 03/15/2008, -0/+31. Apple is not charging for the SDK.
2. They are selectively deciding who can enter the BETA.
If you applied and got the email, wait for them to contact you back. - flarn2006, on 03/14/2008, -0/+3ZOMG! *overreacts*
- championchap, on 03/14/2008, -1/+4Don't be silly. That's Steves digg username. Duh.
- natenovs, on 03/14/2008, -4/+7who the hell are they to decide who is "worthy" of developing on their platform. it's bad enough that they are charging for the sdk, and now they are selectively deciding who can code for it!?
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