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- OwlFlavored, on 03/04/2009, -11/+120I don't know why people are bitching. You pick whatever works for you for the same price. I pretty much never use the numeric keypad, so it would be nice to have more desk space. If you do use the keypad, then don't get the compact keyboard.
Digg needs a hug today. - QuantumNighmare, on 03/04/2009, -22/+80Until now, I didn't realize how much I hate the keyboard. When are we going full wheel?
- MrSkills, on 03/04/2009, -4/+38I have to disagree absolutely and completely. The *previous* generation of keyboards (the all-white ones) were horrific, so much so that I kept using my old black G4 keyboard (which wasn't *that* amazing in the first place).
But the new ones are a revelation to type on. It's odd at first if you're used to keys with more travel, but once you've got used to not punching the keys so hard, it's much faster but has just as much feedback. Far better for your hands (RSI) in the long-run.
It's also the easiest keyboard to keep clean I've ever had (again, in stark contrast to the old white ones). - liquidmice, on 03/04/2009, -5/+32Why are you reading and commenting on news about a damn keyboard on the front page?
- haentz, on 03/04/2009, -1/+20Now a wireless keyboard with numpad please!
- MrSkills, on 03/04/2009, -1/+18It's just an option. You can still have it if you want.
- Diggnabbit, on 03/04/2009, -1/+18Shut up.
- digitalpencil, on 03/04/2009, -1/+15diggers love to whinge, especially if it's about apple.. hell, Tim Cook could personally deliver an iPod nano to all our houses free of charge and we'd still be complaining about how this was a blatant push to further monopolize the audio player market by free gifts..
Personally i wouldn't want a keyboard without the the number-pad, well i wouldn't want one of these apple keyboards either but come on?! it's a free switch for ***** sake! - MrSkills, on 03/04/2009, -6/+20So now you can get both the big and small version wired, but you still can't get the big version with bluetooth. :-(
- WestEast, on 03/04/2009, -4/+17No, CTS is caused by the very high and bulky Pc typical keyboards, where the wrist dips down at the front of it and you have to pull the hand back and up to get your fingers above the keys, meaning the strained wrist is resting on the nerves.
The Apple keyboards being an ultra low profile means your hands and wrists are sitting at a very neutral position, and are much less likely to suffer from this. - haydesigner, on 03/04/2009, -2/+14"inverted screen colors back to normal"
You *do* know there are places in the preferences application where you can... turn that off, don't you? That way, you don't have to constantly tell yourself that you are an idiot each time you do the same thing over and over and over and over again. - WestEast, on 03/04/2009, -2/+13Have to agree, looking at them I wasnt sure, when mine arrived after a few days it was a joy to type on, so light on the fingers.
Makes my older Logitech feel like a typewriter! - Zippo, on 03/04/2009, -10/+21*insert comment about Macs and games*
- rdas7, on 03/04/2009, -1/+11Same here — was skeptical at first, now going back to "old" style keyboards feels retro and clunky. These keyboards rule!
- redgiemental, on 03/04/2009, -3/+12You choose when are buying whether you want a num pad or not.
At no extra cost. - Drahkir, on 03/04/2009, -3/+12Why am I reading and commenting on your comments that are commenting on their comments on news about a damn keyboard on the front page?
- PeanutCheeseBar, on 03/04/2009, -6/+14Why are you reading and commenting on his comment on news about a damn keyboard on the front page?
- merku, on 03/04/2009, -16/+24Why is news about a damn keyboard on the front page?
- rdas7, on 03/04/2009, -2/+9"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." — Einstein.
- Balanced, on 03/04/2009, -0/+7Luckily both of those really don't make sense for this particular use. Mac OS X uses option-key-combos to get to the weirder characters (I don't think there's a direct equivalent to alt+# so getting to some of the weird UNICODE characters might be tricky without using an application, but since the primary use seems to be spammed ASCII art that really should have died in the 80s, I'm not concerned.)
- stg3095, on 03/04/2009, -3/+10http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introd ...
Apple Introduces New Laptop With No Keyboard - Urkel, on 03/04/2009, -1/+8Reading these responses that actually is the mentality of some people because it's almost comical the way some people are claiming that "taking the laptop experience home with you" actually makes sense.
Notebooks are built on compromises and we know it. Smaller HDD and screen, portable compact hub and mouse etc. You're tossing all this stuff in a bag so space is a major issue. But we're talking about a computer on a desk so how is this good for the common user when Numbers.app, games, editing apps, iLife and more all benefit from the 10-key and fullsize arrow keys?
I'd really like to see the cramped desks of people who feel this is a better standard because running out of desktop space is more about poor desk buying decisions than Apple's old aluminum keyboard being "too big". - digitalpencil, on 03/04/2009, -0/+6as macparrot pointed out, the only reason this got to FP is because of the sheer number of people making inane comments about how free choice is crap.
- redgiemental, on 03/04/2009, -2/+8Both keyboards with and without num pads are availible at no extra cost when you purchase an iMac.
Apple have always largely ignored the enterprise market and don't seem to be changing too much on that front. - fugazied, on 03/04/2009, -1/+7I find them faster to type on for some reason. I have a wireless one too.
- flammablewater, on 03/04/2009, -0/+6I had one of those on a mac in 1995. It sucked.
- Urkel, on 03/04/2009, -2/+7Actually, that logic goes AGAINST the idea of removing features from the desktop keyboard. In a world where "the vast majority of consumers are buying laptops", then if someone chooses to buy a desktop then it most likely is because they WANT a no-compromise computer.
Users are buying notebooks because of portability so losing Pg Up/Down, Home/End or fullsize Arrows stinks but the tradeoff is understandable because there is a clear tradeoff. You are carrying a 13" powerhouse notebook in your bookbag. But to take away function on a system where space is plentiful doesn't make sense. - MrChunks, on 03/04/2009, -2/+7Well you're a ***** idiot then.
/s - Heavy, on 03/04/2009, -5/+10Why are you reading and commenting on his comment that is commenting on his comment news about a damn keyboard on the front page?
- WestEast, on 03/04/2009, -1/+6Esspli.
Serisouly, I dodnt think I could be that motivated by a keyboard, and I didnt think I would like the Apple one with it seperate gaped buttons etc etc, small return key as well, but they really are very nice to use.
So much so im reducing function and will be odering one for my PC.
Couldnt do without the numeric keypad tho, that just stupid making it the default choice IMO - gregburkman, on 03/04/2009, -1/+5I'm old enough to keep any liquid away from electronic surfaces, and I've been working on one of the aluminum Apple keyboards since almost day one of their release. I'm with the poster who said that they keep your wrists at a neutral position. Typing is faster, mistakes are fewer because of the action and the position of one's wrists. Very light, pleasant keyboard experience. But I had to buy the wired one, because back then, that was the only one with an extended layout. I need 10-key for productivity. If the extended goes away, I would be looking elsewhere. As sweet as the Logitech Revolution mice have been with my elitist Macintosh setup, I'd look to Logitech first for a new keyboard.
- inactive, on 03/04/2009, -0/+4More like $5 and $4.90
- abbathdoom, on 03/04/2009, -0/+4People still leave their chair to buy things? :-\
- inactive, on 03/04/2009, -0/+4I think Apple has come full circle now. Look at the keyboard, it's almost the original 1985 Mac keyboard.
I recently ditched my full keyboard with the num pad for the bluetooth wireless one. My primary machine is my laptop, so I am very used to that size/shape keyboard, the smaller keyboard just took up less space on my desk, and I enjoy it more. - a0me, on 03/04/2009, -0/+4The article says that the wired keyboard with no numeric keypad is included with each new iMac by default and it can be swapped out for one that includes a numeric keypad when ordering online, but can you do the same thing at retail?
- puma, on 03/04/2009, -0/+4this is digg and it's apple news. scroll down there's a thing about the new hard drive status led's too
- kodax, on 03/04/2009, -2/+6Bootcamp...but, yeah, it is a pain to have to shut down my other apps to boot into a game.
- SumoSniper, on 03/04/2009, -15/+19WOW! What a breakthrough! Front page material!
- insertAliasHere, on 03/04/2009, -1/+4Microsoft actually puts out great peripherals. I prefer the Logitech keyboards, but this isn't a bad second choice:
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/gaming/productde ...
And they also put out great mouses (mice?). - Rothgarr, on 03/04/2009, -0/+3Hi, Apple.
- Please add a numeric keypad to your 17" Macbook Pro line.
- Please create a wireless version of your extended keyboard (with numeric keypad!). You previously made wireless extended keyboards, please bring them back.
- Please create a mouse that doesn't suck. Right clicking a mighty mouse is finicky, the scroll ball isn't very precise, and the whole thing feels cheap in general. It's like driving a Ferrari with a Fisher Price steering wheel. - wwwluckyro, on 03/04/2009, -2/+5Such as me, for example. I don't know why you're getting buried.
- EssPii, on 03/04/2009, -11/+14You guys finished jerking each other off here or do you need some more help?
- techdever, on 03/04/2009, -0/+3how is babby formed?
- zacksteinkamp, on 03/04/2009, -0/+3I have actually been waiting for this product. Bluetooth HID's suck because of lag and dropouts. It's all about wired, and it's all about this keyboard. Great feel, no keypad to make the arm's reach to the mouse "too long", and small enough to fit in my backpack when going places. Hurrah!
- Balanced, on 03/04/2009, -1/+4The 'feature' is that it takes up less desk space. For some this is a feature. Me, not so much.
- Balanced, on 03/04/2009, -0/+3Presumably a lot of people they checked with said they don't use the numeric keypad and valued desk space. I disagree personally, but I don't claim to speak for everyone.
- ricksite, on 03/04/2009, -2/+5This isn't as far fetched as people are making it out to be. Many people use laptops without numeric keypads on a regular basis. This just puts the desktop on par with a laptop with the advantage of saving some desk space. If you need the larger keyboard, it is available as a free option.
- digitalpencil, on 03/04/2009, -0/+2if you buy extra ram and install it yourself, you've technically voided your warranty as you've opened the casing. Not that it's a problem as (in the event anything fails) you just rip out your ram and put back in the old dimms before returning it. I've done it with various boxes, they don't care.. i've even broken the housing before on an old ibook prying it open and they still didn't give a *****, they just replaced the broken component and returned it with the same old broken housing.
As for the keyboard, no. Swapping your keyboard for a non-numeric, or a wireless or even a logitech does not constitute a 'custom config', of course they'll take it back o_O - AquaOSX, on 03/04/2009, -0/+2And then you have two keyboards.... which is perfect for users with 4 arms.
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