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- slickfire, on 10/12/2007, -3/+89when are you guys going to realize that apple store links expire?
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -4/+55In other news the new Cinema Displays that will be announced at Macworld on the 8th of January will have built-in iSights and IR sensors. (what a surprise)
- penguindude15, on 10/12/2007, -4/+40What is you ended up getting 2 or more Cinema Displays? Just an idea, but could all of the built in isights work together somehow? Could you possibly create a 3d image of you with multiple isights?
- yensed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+38Maybe a new iSight is on the way? Not everyone who owns a mac mini or mac pro use Apple monitors.
- xoineg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28maybe a higher quality and smaller iSight.
- Ryan229, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25Glad until they upgrade them and you have Version 1.0 crap.
- igraham09, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19hahaha
dugg down in 3 - 2 - 1... - bertram, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17but i'm Time's person of the year! everyone wants to see me.
- threepio, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22Because their iMacs/Macbook Pro/Macbooks came with them built in? Or it's a three year old product overdue for renewal? Or they're rolling out a new line of flat panel displays with an iSight built in eliminating the need for a stand alone unit?
Speculation is fun. You, however, are not. - stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14"Its called a Logitech web camera."
Which have terrible video quality and buggy drivers. You get what you pay for. - ttkgeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14A smaller iSight with a newer design along with a built-in IR sensor would be perfect.
- MikeOSX, on 10/12/2007, -14/+28Perhaps a hint that nobody was purchasing it?
- PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17And since I'm poor and not about to buy a cinema display, I'd better grab one of these while the stores still have 'em left.
- addrake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11While I too really couldn't care less about this, I question it's association to sexual preference.
- mediaphile, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13@threepio:
i don't see how new flat panel displays with built in iSights eliminates the need for a stand alone unit. just because i want a webcam doesn't mean i want a way more expensive flat panel display as well. - magicRob, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Back in August MacRumors.com also suggested that they're being revised, especially since they can't sell them in Europe any more due to environmentally bad materials in them. It's all mentioned in this article.
http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/08/20060829225431.shtml - Matrixsjd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I kinda thought it was weird when it disappeared from the store I work at, and I couldn't find it on the Apple website either. Interesting. Just glad I bought one before they stopped shipping :)
- Cymrubeats, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13The rumour is, no one actually wants to see you, so they weren't selling.
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16I heard they've stopped selling them in the US because fat people kept trying to eat them.
- SniperGX1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Its also alot easier to use an iSight in Linux. It is firewire so you can use a raw1394 stream with video4linux instead of messing with the USB camera crap that never seems to work correctly. Plus you can pull 640x480 video at 60fps which is nice. So for Linux users. iSight FTW. If you are that much of an Applephobe that you cannot stand the sight of it just throw a BSD or Tux sticker over the apple logo and pretend like its not there.
- JuyLe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Which is not mac-compatible, it is the point of the isight, yeah, really !
- greenamp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@KyleMistry
What do you mean? I have a standalone iSight camera and can use it with everything that can take web cam input. And there is a nifty app called iGlasses that gives you complete control. - Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10NEWSFLASH!!
By the way if Apple does indeed put iSights in the NEW Cinema Displays, and doesn't update their exernal iSights, i.e. stops selling them for good. They are not forcing you to buy a new Apple notebook, a new Apple iMac, or a new Apple Display. I just did a check, I found you can actually buy external-webcams made by companies other than Apple. Here's 45 to choose from, they are priced very reasonably too: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_1/102-5043517-0108165?ie=UTF8&keywords=webcams&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Awebcams&page=1
Now I'll be the first to admit it will look like an alien-ship has landed on your Mac, but there's no denying there is options. If Apple does stop selling external webcams, it's message is clear, they not only believe a camera built into a display is a better idea than an external camera, but they are willing to risk people buying other companies cameras to proove it (by not offering them an option to buy theirs). If and when they put iSights in their new displays, I think it will be a precursor to all the other manufacturers joining suit. - KyleMistry, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Here's hoping that they'll update the firmware to make it a lot more compatible with other applications. I'd love to have an iSight that I could use in applications besides iChat and iMovie, or the very few other for-fun-only apps.
- Stopher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I just wish they had better drivers for some of my other web cams. They shouldn't really be blocking the use of non apple monitors especially since that's the way they market the mini.
- pierrefilms, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7You must be emo.
"Apple iSight No Longer Available" is a FACT. While the description may contain a rumor, both the title and article it links to simply state that the iSight is no longer available. MacRumors.com also reports news. Not just speculation. RTFA next time...it's pretty short. - vagarach, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Say I got a powerbook for $1. Then I buy a $100 isight for it. Can I really whine about how my new isight cost 10000% more than the laptop? What a senseless argument.
- KyleMistry, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I've heard they stopped selling them.
:U - chroko, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Matrix, do you work at an Apple store?
If so, that doesn't give me hope for rushing down to my (not-very-local) computer stores this week and frantically try to find one that's still in stock - I tried to buy one online yesterday.
This is another of the horrors of being a Mac owner: Apple's products are more expensive than average (so no impulse buys), but their moves are so unpredictable (even for existing products) that you can never plan purchases. What the hell do I do now? Wait for a new revision (how long?) Get a terrible golfball cam that I'll hate? (and silently curse Apple for forcing me to buy?) - xbudex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5digg this down
- RyeBrye, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10To the ***** above me who wonders if a webcam will work on a mac...
EVERY SINGLE FIREWIRE VIDEO CAMERA can be used as an "iSight."
/rant. - SonofMaug, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10I thought they stopped selling them in Europe b/c everyone there is ugly. ;-)
Toothpaste FTW! - coldfusion1970, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Its about time you guys caught up.
Apple stopped selling the iSight in Europe ages ago.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1830
There was a problem to do with the amount of lead used in the product. - mediaphile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@threepio:
Right. I see why they would include iSights in flat panel displays. That makes sense. But you're looking at it from the viewpoint of someone that's already going to buy the display, but now gets a display with an iSight. I'm looking at it from the viewpoint of people that want to buy an iSight, but don't have the extra hundreds or necessity to buy a new flat panel display when they've already got a monitor. Without a standalone iSight, for someone just looking to buy a webcam, the only choice is to go non-Apple, which does not equal profit for Apple. That would be like only including Front Row on certain Macs without offering the standalone software, which would close off many potential customers. - threepio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Oh you poor kids! You only had three whole years to pick them up!
Ah well. Off to eBay with you. - threepio, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Well, mediaphile, that's the magic that Apple works as an all-in-one CE manufacturer. By continually pressing on to newer generations they:
a) keep their customers as return buyers
b) keep pressing their edge to market with new products and
c) can roll off older products that may eat into the business that a newer product will generate.
It's not about you, or what you want, it's about profit. (It's really shocking that more people aren't aware of this, or if they are that they choose to ignore it.) So you spend an extra $60-$80 on a panel - if you're an Apple customer, that's nothing. It keeps you in the fold, it keeps you up to date and it's also a little bit on the cool side. Is it the THE reason they're rolling off the iSight? No. But it's probably one of many. - SpacemanSpiff01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@ttkgeek: Yeah, but then that web cam of yours would be powered up 24/7. Then after the fact, you would be wasting clock cycles on your computer, & security issues would arise, when in fact it would be easier to just build in the IR sensor to begin with.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3And somehow your cinema display no longer fills the void for which you bought it? How does a new one change anything?
- GregoryHarbin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://www.evological.com/evocam.html
- Foma, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4This is not a rumor, virtualball. The fact that the link is at macrumors.com does not make it a rumor. Go to the apple.com store yourself: there are no iSights. I'm not too worried about a new revision coming out soon, but Apple's unpredictability in this regard is a valid complaint.
- mikeod, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3So what are some good alternatives now that iSight isnt available?
- ThePottsDome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thanks Harbin, just what I was looking for !
- forchilli, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7yeah thats a really old rumor i read awhile back
- Morky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Anyone remember the Apple patent for a camera imbedded in a display (embedded between the pixels)?:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn9059 - crablin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Maybe Apple are doing it to prepare for the release of the iPhone with a built in iSight that also has a 23" cinema display, an IR receiver, a Superdrive and 1TB of flash storage!
It's being announced tomorrow. It's not what I expected at all. I've said too much. - ThePottsDome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I never use my iSight. I need a list of other applications it could be useful for.
- kevinmotel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2perhaps a built-to-order thing? like choosing a matte of glossy screen on the MBP.
- N1XUK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1In the UK apple retail and online hasnt sold the iSight for a little while now. I'm getting mine exchanged as it has a dead pixel or something.
The apple tech guy in store told me that they aren't allowed to sell it anymore due to it containing/using mercury somewhere along its product cycle. And that no apple stores are allowed to order in isights even for customer repairs. He was also perplexed when he couldnt figure out how to use the external iSight in photobooth etc on his MacBook, had to demo it on my iBook
Phoned up applecare and they will happily exchnage mine as its still within 12months warranty. However they want credit card details incase i dont send the "broken" one back! Well that would suck if you dont have a CC. Not to mention he refused to call it an iSight down the phone just "the replacement part" i get the feeling Apple aren't strictly allowed to bill for a replacement iSight as officially they can't sell them anymore due to mercury content.
Was tempted to try and argue for a refund, saying about "safety concerns regrding mercury" but i've now realised i doubt i'll be able to find another Firewire-DV camera for that price somewhere else. - doppler00, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4This is a pretty bad idea for corporate customers. Most work places disallow cameras for security reasons, and if Apple starts building them into monitors, they are immediately going to lose those customers. I hope they plan to continue both versions.
- NikZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1True, but the "Buy Now" on that page no longer works (it just redirects to the store front).
However, it does appear that you *can* still buy them from the Australian & NZ Apple stores, albeit rather pricey. Scroll down, you'll see it listed under the "Mac Accessories" category (and/or the "Essentials" teaser).
http://www.apple.com/au/store (iSight = AUD$229 [~USD$178] ouch!)
http://www.apple.com/nz/store (iSight = NZD$269 [~USD$185] double ouch!) -
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