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- mikev, on 10/27/2007, -21/+43Candybar mobiles > all.
- Quix, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24"but I will never be able to force myself to spend that much money on something I could build for 1/4 of the price." - 1021
You can build your own cell phone? Sweet! - themarq, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21Candy bar?
Hell I want a phone shaped like a banana...
...which I of course would carry in my front pocket.
"No as a matter of fact I am NOT happy to see you, it's just my fone." - JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -9/+24After owning a lot of the two major types (candy bar and flip), I fail to see how people could like the candy bars better. The screen gets scratched/broken so much easier, and you have to deal with locking the keys all the time (if you like to put your phone in your pocket). But that's just my point of view. Someone who has a little holster that goes on their belt shouldn't have either of those problems, but after a year with my Sony w810i, i'm ready to go back to flip ASAP.
- dougallj, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19I like flip phones, just because you don't have to press a wacky sequence/combination of keys to unlock them whenever you need to make a call.
- Berkana, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17I remember the original iPod Shuffle had a warning label saying "do not eat iPod shuffle". In light of that, I hope the Candy-bar form factor won't cause too much confusion.
- Quix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I agree that two devices that do their jobs well are better than one device that does two jobs poorly. But one device that does two jobs well = even better. If Apple can pull it off and combine cell phone functionality with iPod usability, I'll be all over it.
- CraigJ, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13How about toblerone shaped? http://www.toblerone.com/
- TheDrunkMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14"Since the iPod is cheaper than its competitors, I'm wondering what product you are talking about?"
What world do you live in?
1GB Apple iPod Shuffle - $79.00
Delkin Revel MP3 Player & Secure Digital SD 1 GB Memory Card Combo- $38.99 (closest thing I could find to compare)
8GB Apple iPod Nano - $249.00
8GB Sandisk Sansa e280 - $184.93
30GB Apple iPod Video -$249.00
30GB Creative Zen Vision:M - $229.99
80GB Apple iPod Video - $349.00
60GB Creative Labs Zen Vision: M - $298.54 (Couldn't find an 80 GB, but it is $50 cheaper)
All prices were from a quick search on Amazon and Apple's website- you can probably find other products that are even cheaper elsewhere. You can argue that some Apple products might be better for what they are supposed to do (like the shuffle) but there is no way you can argue that they are cheaper. - jpurnell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I don't doubt that it's coming, but this Shaw Wu guy is nothing but a media whore and knows NOTHING more than what's already circulating on the blog roll. A quote like "we believe it's beyond speculation" IS SPECULATION. This guy just wants to get ahead of the inevitable and then claim to have called it. I'd take any article based on his "research" with a grain of salt.
- PhillyMJS, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I'm dying for an Apple cell phone, though I don't give a ***** about whether or not it plays music.
What I want is a good, slim candybar phone with a good interface, that will provide excellent Bluetooth functionality and sync perfectly with my Mac. Nobody has delivered that yet. Sony-Ericsson came closest with the T616, but the phonebook didn't hold street address info. When I wanted to upgrade I decided on the SE K510a, but can't find it for sale anywhere even though it was allegedly released in 2Q 2006. I now have an unlocked Motorola SLVR, and I love the size (I barely know it's in the change pocket of my jeans) but I hate the interface and the fact that I can't pair it with my Address Book app to send SMS messages typed on my computer. Also, it supports street address info in the phonebook, but for some reason it doesn't pull the address info from my Address Book app.
On a phone made by Apple, I have a reasonable expectation of a small, elegant physical design, great interface and perfect sync capability with Macs. That's why I've been hoping they'd do a phone.
~Philly - gaberowe, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10I think it should have been a flip phone.. even though you have a moving part, flip phones last longer because the main thing that gets broken on cell phones is the screen--if you have a flip phone its pretty hard to break or scratch the screen. I have my cell phone in my pocket mostly or in my bag--both places where screens get scratch or banged against--so I think just about everybody knows that a flip phone is better. I just wonder what apple is thinking...
- joe20, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8The article just recycles speculation from analysts and rumor sites. This in not confirmation but just more wishful thinking.
I'll believe it when I see it. - halleyscomet, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@themarq
Don't you mean your:
Bananaphone!
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/badgerphone.php - buckaroo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6>> [ by Lynxpro -- candybar] "I hate how they always seem to be able to undo the keylock while inside your pocket and then randomly call people"
I think you need to buy phones that aren't quite so smart! - Quix, on 10/27/2007, -12/+16Agreed. I don't like flip phones at all. It will be interesting to see how they incorporate the display and combo keypad/iPod-type interface in the limited space of a candybar though.
- d3dm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I've always wondered why candy bar phones can't detect capacitance change when the device is in a human hand rather than in a pocket or purse. No more stupid lock/unlock keypresses and no more false calls from your pocket.
- CraigJ, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5OK, I'm now ready to believe. Reuters > ( ThinkSecret + Apple Insider + Insert n-number of Random Rumor Blogs here )
- drlha, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Beyond Speculation"! Nothing will be beyond speculation until Apple either announces the iPhone or we see FCC filing pictures of it. Until then, *EVERYTHING* about the iPhone is a rumor or speculation.
- elroy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6You can answer/hang-up a flip phone without looking. No need for key lock. Screen is protected when it's shut.
Currently I own a Panasonic X800. Love the form factor and OS, but the battery life blows. - hotdigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://www.duggmirror.com
- malliemcg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I am hanging out for the apple phone. (I hope its a Candybar - i prefer its ergonomics to flippy trippy phones), especially if it can sync with iCal cleanly and has a none too horrible interface to entering reminders. My phone is 95% phone calls 5% appointments/reminders.
Aaaand if its an integrated iPod (think nano w/ phone) I'll be saved the hassle of carrying an iPod and phone around. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yup. One less thing to break on you. Clamshell = POS.
- fliped, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I find it funny how people are saying that a "candy bar" form will have cracked screens and break and it is not a good idea... but aren't all iPods like that anyways??
- halik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3go back to your macstore...
- cmearns, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Can't ... Stop ... Reading ... this ... Crap!
uhhhhh... comm'on! Common!!! I'm going to have to freeze myself. - howski, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3personally, i don't like the term "candybar" phone. Calling it a candybar makes me think it's gonna melt in my pocket. Isn't it supposed to be just a "bar" phone?
I have a bar phone. I hate flip phones. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I'm all for iPod+Phone combo, personally. I can't be arsed with the Camera+Phone combos but I'm always carrying the phone and nano around with me, so one less device is ok with me. I also hate the candybar AND flip phones and would prefer pivot or slide design (meh, just to be different) :-)
- MikeOSX, on 10/12/2007, -12/+13The Chocolate wasn't exactly made by Apple either. It was just designed horribly; a mistake I'm confidant Apple will not make.
Personally, I'm all for carrying one device as opposed to two or three, as long as it is done right. If anybody can succeed in making such a device, Apple can.
...get a mac ;) - dwrecktion, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3What do you guys who are complaining about candybar form factors breaking do with your iPods? Flip phones go against Apple's minimalist design techniques.
- Xilon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hmm ok, so having the same sized phone, mp3 player and camera (if you can get it that small) is better than having one device which does all three (I assume) well?
I'd much prefer a nice sexy minimal phone that is easy to use and can play mp3s as well as take photos.
It makes sense... I mean how often do you actually use your phone? Unless your some kind of cheerleader, probably not 24/7 right? So between calls why not listen to some music? :P - applebyte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you want to see how often Shaw Wu gets it wrong, check this out:
http://www.applerumortracker.com
He also predicted Apple would release a Bluetooth widescreen iPod last June. - lepton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1??? I don't have a store. I just have a web site.
- Lynxpro, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8
I'm totally the opposite. I hate candybar phones after having numerous Nokias and the SonyEricsson T616. I hate how they always seem to be able to undo the keylock while inside your pocket and then randomly call people. I've also had the worst reception with them compared to my Motorola RAZR.
I'd buy an Apple iPhone Flip without hesitation. But I will not be buying it if it is in the candybar form factor. - grzelakc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Leaked photo! Very nice retro design!
Have a look:
http://tinyurl.com/8q2wx - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I have no idea if I will like or dislike the Apple phone.
However, I have to say that I despise the Razr. I have had mine now for about six months (TMobile) and to me the most annoying feature is that they went to all the trouble to make a flip phone so you couldn't accidentally press buttons (good), but then put buttons on the outer edges that are gauranteed to be pressed, some of which make noise!
Furthermore the buttons they do have inside are the worst buttons I have ever used on a phone - I have used buttons literally half or even a quarter the size of the buttons on other devices with no trouble but I have to really concentrate to hit the Razr keypad buttons properly.
Also as a side note, I don't find the phone UI very good but I imagine that would bother me more if I actually liked the hardware to start with.
Basically I'm sticking with the Razr until Apple releases a phone, and then compare that to other options. If it's not a flip phone that is a strike against it in my book, but if they have some solution to make it practical to carry in a pocket I may consider it. - Stopher, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Unless it doesn't.
- AaronTyler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1No thats not the photo.... This is the real one...
I just love that bag it comes with....very professional!
http://tinyurl.com/yyt9q6 - felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Got a photo of your own Zach Morris bluetooth mod? All you did was put up a link to a completely different product than the one you described.
If you did that mod, it would be very cool to see.
If you did that mod. - epheterson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Man, I want a picture already.
- mattp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Maybe Apple will bring the "Hold" (keylock) switch to the cell phone. Seems like that would solve most of the problems associated with a candybar-type cell.
- TheTSArt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Well said.
- Bootes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"But Apple needs to learn from the ROKR and introduce a real phone, not just a music player with a phone jammed in almost as an afterthought, analysts said."
Wasn't the ROKR more like a phone with music player jammed in as an afterthought? They were complaining about the ROKR only storing 100 songs earlier and other than playing the songs that's basically the only music connection the ROKR has. - buckaroo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Twix! I want Twix! Phone breaks in half!
- noreturn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'm still waiting for confirmation that this will actually happen. Nothing in the article provided any solid proof, other than the word of an analyst that thought the ROKR failed because it wasn't a "real phone.".
Open your eyes, people. This is still just another rumor, even if it does happen to come from a seemingly respectable source. Frankly, I'll believe it when I see it. - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I have to say that some of the ideas there are interesting - allowing connection to a bluetooth keyboard for one is cool and I'm not sure if other mobile devices support that (you could even have a very small fold-out bluetooth keyboard like the ones they build to dock with Palms).
Also interesting is the idea of controlling your mac desktop from afar. That raises some technical issues about connectivity back to your Mac, but consider this - what if it was done using .Mac as the gateway service to reach back to your Mac, even through firewalls?
In a number of ways, .Mac might become a lot more useful if/when Apple releases a phone. - danesparza, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1From the article:
"An Apple spokesman said the company does not comment on rumors or speculation." - FishPoisonCon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4dude... candybars are the worst! wtf?? ...and they are ALWAYS ugly - what was apple thinking?
[well-designed]slider > flip > candygar-bage - Bandito, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Oh come on. Give me a break with all this.
[corny ad jingle]
Give me a break, oh give me a break, break me off a piece of that Kit Kat bar
[/corny ad jingle]
sorry. couldn't resist.
My .02 - I couldn't wait to get away from the candy bar style phones in order to get a flip/clamshell phone years ago. To me the flip phones were smaller, can easily fit in your pocket without worry about scratching or numbers being pressed, etc. I don't get the backlash on the RAZR, to me it's the flip phone at it's best. Noone can compete with that so now the market is changing again.
Personally I like some of the slider phones now too (go figure after complaining about the scratching too). I have a Moto v557 still and am holding off on getting hte RAZR for the SLDR. But I'm not spending the absurd money that Apple is likely to charge for a phone... I'm not chatting (via typing) on it, I'm talking. - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If it worked like the hold switch on the iPod, that would satisfy me - absolutely no key presses would do anything, and I could pocket the device without it going on.
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