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- Zippo, on 12/22/2008, -20/+65I don't know about you guys, but I certainly didn't have this issue when upgrading to 10.5.6... Bugs happen, but these sort of problems are definitely the minority.
- djrbx, on 12/22/2008, -1/+19When I updated the new unibody macbook, the update itself completed but unfortunately upon rebooting I got a kernel panic. The ironic thing was that in order to fix it, I booted up my hackintosh system, downloaded the update manually, then reinstalled the update after connecting my macbooks hard drive using an external adapter. Ironically it worked. Thank you Hackintosh.
- MacParrot, on 12/22/2008, -2/+14I upgraded 4 different Macs (a G4 iBook, G5 iMac, 2.16GHz Intel iMac, and a 2.33GHz MacBook Pro) with Software Update and had no problems, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. I'm hoping that many of these issues might go away once the OS is only Intel.
We'll see what happens next. - TomKarpik, on 12/22/2008, -5/+14sudo apt-get install a-life
- phoomp, on 12/22/2008, -0/+8If that were the case, there would have been nothing for Apple to fix. Apple fixed something, therefore the problem was with Apple and not the people experiencing the problem.
- phoomp, on 12/22/2008, -1/+8Dude, they've got at least *20* models to work with! The OS has to be compatible with legacy hardware as well! It's pretty tough to try and test an upgrade on 20 different computers. Might take almost an hour.
- keiths, on 12/22/2008, -1/+7I had the problem on a 17" macbook pro. I just went to apples site to download the update manually.
- tupperbacharach, on 12/23/2008, -2/+8Hey "scent-of-locker," You might want to keep in mind that others are capable of returning your personal attacks.
There are always droves of mac chimps like you who blindly deny and counter-spin any valid argument that might suggest that you could have done better than paying through the nose for your precious "Steve product ."
To this day, misguided, snobby mactards like you regularly assert that Macs "just work." Even most Digg users would not deny that idiots like you invariably waste enormous forum space posting a zillion half-baked, meandering, defensive run-ons, every time someone suggests that some little thing could be slightly amiss in Apple-land.
"Sack-a-licker," don't feign innocence for yourself and for your fellow s**t-chuckers -- you have been (and are still) condescending towards others, and all of your smugness has been shown to have no foundation in fact. - ariez84, on 12/23/2008, -1/+7Must be hardware problems. Just chuck the thing out and get a new mac. Thats how its always been to solve a mac problem.
- TomKarpik, on 12/22/2008, -7/+13No, and they won't -- because Apple doesn't have a need to cater to the kids over at OSx86 with their undeserved senses of entitlement.
- FearFactory, on 12/22/2008, -5/+11this should definitely be BREAKING NEWS!
- ilgaz, on 12/22/2008, -0/+6I would do permission check/repair AFTER update. Software update runs as root, it doesn't really care about who owns files. Apple sometimes take proactive measures for security with updates and the file flags (in packages) so it would be a good idea to repair permissions after updates.
Permission Repair is proactive security anyway. - slightlyoffbeat, on 12/22/2008, -2/+7ya! Start trolling digg like a real man.
- TVarmy, on 12/23/2008, -0/+5Thank you! Exactly, Apple makes their software for the internal hardware they pick out. It's a different business model than Windows, and accounts for several of the benefits of Macs. With those benefits comes the loss of compatibility across many platforms, but that's what Mac users know they're getting into. Any compatibility with components that aren't inside a regular Mac is just luck. The OSX86 project is more or less a hobbyist thing, in my opinion, with the exception of a few really well thought out Hackintoshes, which are usually very popular configurations that have a community willing to port over drivers, ie the MSI Wind.
It's a bit like expecting Nintendo to let you solder in more ram and a faster GPU into the Wii and have it work perfectly. - MacParrot, on 12/22/2008, -2/+7I've done that, but I'm interested in corresponding with people that have actually done it thanks
- TVarmy, on 12/23/2008, -1/+6Really, Digg seems more about making fun of Apple when it doesn't work, mainly because that's it's selling point. Saying Windows has problems that aren't always easy to fix is like saying President George W. Bush is incompetent. Both jokes stopped being funny a long time ago. President Bush's ineptitude-related humor ended around 2006, and Windows crashing-related humor probably ended somewhere between Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows ME, with a brief revival at the launch of Vista.
- qbthemc, on 12/22/2008, -2/+7TAKE THAT APPLE SAUCE.
- TVarmy, on 12/23/2008, -0/+4Linux, Windows, and OS/2 Warp could all have gone to that site and downloaded it. That's right, I namedropped an OS that hardly exists.
- tupperbacharach, on 12/22/2008, -7/+11No sarcasm indicator needed.
Fanboys, please don't ever again say that "Macs just work" when comparing Apple products with their competitors -- Mac products DO NOT "just work," especially when compared to others. - raydeen, on 12/22/2008, -1/+5I've never done it yet on my work MacBook but it might be a good idea to do a permission and disk check before doing major system upgrades. The system could get really fubar'd if the new files get written to a bad part of the disk or file system. Maybe Applejack it first, then upgrade.
- RetepNamenots, on 12/22/2008, -12/+16They only have what, 10 different models that they have to get it working on?
And Mac fanboys complain if Linux / Windows doesn't work on their hardware, when it's got to be compatible with hundreds if not thousands of different combinations... - phoomp, on 12/22/2008, -4/+8We're told over and over that Macs are perfect. Windows is pretty darn stable, so to be better than that, you've got to be perfect.
- phoomp, on 12/22/2008, -5/+9Exactly. It just works ... except when it doesn't.
- RealHyperX, on 12/22/2008, -0/+4Had the issue happen to my macbook air. Had to log into safe mode and re-download and re-apply the update. Worked like a charm after that, even though Apple care level two told me to send the mac air back - that it was bad.
- hardeep1singh, on 12/23/2008, -0/+4its easy to strip a machine of all the latest features and make it work with everything that's tried and tested.
- tupperbacharach, on 12/22/2008, -6/+10Yes. Of course, this problem is the only one that ever occured on Apple products.
Please disregard all of the many Mac problems reported here: http://www.macfixit.com/
Please pay no attention to the many more complaints here: http://www.macfixitforums.com/
Also, MacFixIt is just one presence on the Internet -- please ignore all of the other Apple/Mac problem sites.
All of these problems/complaint/sites exist for entertainment purposes only -- these users merely like to "pretend" that their Apple products are faulty -- just for fun!
Remember, Apple products are superior, and they (of course) just work! - macromorgan, on 12/22/2008, -2/+6I thought the smiley face made it abundantly clear that the statement was made in jest. Perhaps not.
- hardeep1singh, on 12/23/2008, -2/+5Join a begginers software installation course then. You managed to break something that can even run automatically without user interference.
Seriously man, you need it. - beesaretasty, on 12/22/2008, -5/+8good thing it isn't a story about windows. digg would be having a field day.
- loismustdie147, on 12/22/2008, -0/+3i read this sentence: "It appears that prior to posting the 10.5.6 update Apple has been aware of possible as because the included software..." and just stopped. don't they proof this stuff? i've tried and tried, but i can't get that sentence to make any sense.
- ilgaz, on 12/22/2008, -4/+7What is that stupid apologising for Apple lately? Hell, softwareupdate cache had a glitch, some effected and most people didn't. No need to make fool of Apple users each time.
- hardeep1singh, on 12/23/2008, -1/+4crashing macs a breaking news. what's so new about it. it happens all the time.
- ilgaz, on 12/22/2008, -4/+7At least Apple gives 2 mechanisms. 3 in fact.
Tying OS update to IE is still unbeliavable. I'd keep using the wuaclt /detectnow trick, at least it doesn't fire IE creating additional problems.
While not needed, for Terminal/Linux converts, it is sudo softwareupdate -i -a to install, softwareupdate -l to list updates on OS X. - gilbert42989, on 12/22/2008, -0/+3E: Couldn't find package a-life
did i do something wrong?? - pyrates, on 12/23/2008, -1/+4How do you know these problems are the minority? Considering the only fact you're basing it off of is your own installation of it one time. Judging by your judging of the facts involved, if one person says they have no problems, no matter how many other people say they do, to you they're of the minority.
Way to defend Apple. Apple appreciates you being a drone willing to defend them to the end and follow their every invisible word. - mrBitch, on 12/23/2008, -1/+4And even when it doesn't work, the update does NOT leave machines in an unusable state :
"At least users machines aren't being left in an unusable state, which is EXACTLY what happened with XP SP3, not because of Microsoft, but because of lazy ***** OEMs ... "
It's pretty hard for Microsoft to control the quality of the "user experience" when there are so many different companies involved in the "chain". - marillion, on 12/23/2008, -0/+3I have a late 2007 macbook. Upgrade was flawless.
- supermanred, on 12/23/2008, -1/+3Works fine here on Intel Macbook Pro.
Time Machine does rock though!!!! - GarryBarker, on 12/23/2008, -3/+5No issues here- the only time i have problems with installation of an OS is when I install Windows, this happens often because it breaks all the time.
- ddrucker, on 12/23/2008, -0/+2I had exactly the problem the described on 3 different Macs, including a Dual Processor Mac Pro, a Macbook Pro, and a Mini (the only PPC of the lot). Only downloading the installer completely as a separate file (in other words, not using the Software Update but just running the Package Install after the update was completely downloaded and saved) worked. I've never had this problem before, and hope it doesn't crop up again.
- mrBitch, on 12/23/2008, -0/+2@ilgaz RE: " While not needed, for Terminal / Linux converts, it is sudo softwareupdate -i -a to install, softwareupdate -l to list updates on OS X."
Thank you, that's actually quite useful. - Raider007, on 12/22/2008, -1/+3oldest mac i have is a g4 ibook and it didn't have any problems... none of my macs did.
- bbqsalad, on 12/22/2008, -23/+25"it just works"
/s - pyrates, on 12/23/2008, -0/+2http://forum.insanelymac.com/
Go to OSX86 Installation and then Leopard 10.5. If you're familiar with linux, this shouldn't be too hard for ya. - macromorgan, on 12/22/2008, -8/+10Did they fix that annoying "still waiting for root device" error message when you attempt to install on less than sanctioned hardware? :-)
- srg13, on 12/22/2008, -1/+3I didn't have any trouble at all on my 1st gen MacBook.
- TomKarpik, on 12/23/2008, -0/+2Hahaha ...
I found "a-life" in the http://world-beyond.linux.org repo - buzzdigg, on 12/22/2008, -0/+2i had it installed on my macbook air and nothing went wrong. does it affect only certain people cos' their mac does not fufull certain conditions.
- ilgaz, on 12/23/2008, -2/+4Well there must be a stupid bug in software update mechanism regarding large updates or something but nothing compares to the windows update mechanism which is a complete mess.
Just look at your %WINDIR%\Software Distribution , see that .log file? open it... see that mess. It can't work right by design. - rebrad, on 12/23/2008, -4/+6Eventually, it just works.
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