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- ersnyder, on 01/14/2008, -36/+255The iPod one, I can see. But the rest I feel are a stretch. A silver box is a silver box and a monitor is a monitor.
- cello, on 01/14/2008, -24/+193Good design is good design is good design.
- Hoov, on 01/14/2008, -45/+163So when Apple does it, it's evolution but when someone else does it they're lazy?
- slimjim5811, on 01/14/2008, -6/+90Some of the similarities are uncanny. Who knew my G5 tower used to be a radio?
- method77, on 01/14/2008, -14/+94Great designs by Braun. At least Apple "borrowed" some good ideas, not crappy ones
- etandrib, on 01/14/2008, -25/+92Buried as Gizmodo
- coit, on 01/14/2008, -10/+76Developers, developers, developers, developers....
- Niubai, on 01/14/2008, -2/+63Those vintage Braun radios and stuff are quite cool
- xtremesniper, on 01/14/2008, -14/+68That's actually pretty interesting stuff. Maybe we can reference other Braun designs as a way to foreshadow unannounced Apple products?
- Chirp08, on 01/14/2008, -16/+62you've never taken an art class have you? That was one hell of an assumption there to say people think a design influenced by a past design is lazy.
- NightStryke, on 01/14/2008, -4/+46beetlejuice, beetlejuice, beetlejuice
...uh oh - sroop, on 01/14/2008, -1/+30Bad artists copy, good artists steal.
/Picasso - Langford, on 01/14/2008, -2/+29Funny, suddenly Apple's products don't seem to clash with my old cars quite as much.
- sv650touring, on 01/14/2008, -1/+27shhh! I don't want them turning my TV off.
- coolbru, on 01/14/2008, -0/+26As Picasso said: "Good artists copy. Great artists steal.", as well as "The quality of a painter depends on the amount of the past he carries with him."
- sv650touring, on 01/14/2008, -2/+27Dr. Frasier Crane: There's an old real estate maxim that says the three most important things when looking for a property are location, location, location.
Woody Boyd: That's just one thing.
Dr. Frasier Crane: That's the point Woody.
Woody Boyd: What, that real estate people are stupid?
Dr. Frasier Crane: No, that location is the one most important thing in real estate.
Woody Boyd: Then why do they say that it's three things?
Dr. Frasier Crane: Because real estate people are stupid. - jon02129, on 01/14/2008, -6/+31Sure. But I'm sure it'd be like finding predictions in the bible: you wont see it until its already been happened (or in this case, announced).
- uptwolait, on 01/14/2008, -2/+26So when is the iShaver coming out?
- inactive, on 01/14/2008, -3/+25Oh no! My car has four wheels! Call the Intellectual Property Police!
- skidooer, on 01/14/2008, -1/+23The calculator even looks like the iPhone calculator: http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/dieterrams/1000468 ...
- etandrib, on 01/14/2008, -18/+39Buried as Gizmodo
- Radan, on 01/14/2008, -1/+20"Good artists borrow, great artists steal" - Steve Jobs quoting Pablo Picasso.
- MacnCidar, on 01/14/2008, -2/+20Gizmodo is on the right track, but it isn't Braun Ives was influenced by, he chose a set of design principles to adhere to that many, including Braun has. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus Did the artist in the Art Deco movement "steal" or "borrow" from each other? Or, did they choose to be part of a design philosophy. The same is true in musical styles, and so on...
- inactive, on 01/14/2008, -0/+18You both are retards.
- asdfer, on 01/14/2008, -12/+30Probably Gizmodo can use the "Design B-Gone" right now.
- Laxaloot, on 01/14/2008, -2/+20location, location, location?
- kidjay, on 01/14/2008, -18/+36are any of you industrial designers? artists?
have you ever built anything before? plagiarism? "ripoff"? stealing?
ive is one of, if not the best designer in the world. you think the community of industrial designers, historians of design and anyone else would have noticed he was "stealing" ideas from the past? yes...they would have. if they thought he was.
but now that giz has the scoop, boy look out. conspiracy!
be serious, guys. - DocGlass, on 01/14/2008, -6/+24thats pretty much what creativity is; stealing well.
- katorga, on 01/14/2008, -1/+18Too bad Braun lost some of their original vision. They made some really classic products over the years, but their current stuff is pretty weak.
- Lucifer7, on 01/14/2008, -9/+25I'm getting very, very tired of seeing comments like this. Just bury the article and move on. Saves me a mouse click on the red button.
- dkoon, on 01/14/2008, -6/+21It's great when you don't know what idea Picasso stole. But not great now when we know what Steve Jobs stole. Seriously, if Microsoft did something remotely close to that, I bet you are 100% going ape *****.
- vader101, on 01/14/2008, -13/+28What a cost-effective way to "Think Different"
- asauterChicago, on 01/14/2008, -7/+21I agree, this looks like a couple of coincidences, but you really can't compare an old TV to the 24in Imac, that seems a bit of a stretch. I'm fairly certain you can take any old white TV from the 1960s from the front view, and it will look somewhat similar.
- inactive, on 01/14/2008, -2/+16Exactly, how many articles wee on Digg about how MS stole all the new Vista features from Mac? When apple steals, its cool, whenever anyone else does it, they suck.
- sv650touring, on 01/14/2008, -2/+15When fanboys declare Apple designs to be wonderful, I don't really care. But the fact is that other industrial designers have said the same thing. They win design awards for their designs, and anyone who claims not to be able to see "what's so great about Apple designs" is intentionally missing the point.
Apple also deserves credit for emphasizing the importance of good design in an increasingly commoditized industry. - LLLSecretChimp, on 01/14/2008, -3/+16He had to get it from somewhere.
- inactive, on 01/14/2008, -0/+13The iPod looked very similar to the hand radio.
- gutterboy, on 01/14/2008, -3/+16He is simply saying everyone tends to credit Apple with pulling all of their designs out of their ass as if they invented modern design. When yes, as you mentioned anyone who has taken Art history and design history classes knows, most design flows out of previous design whether it is a continuation or a statement against the previous trend. As with Apple's, clean modern minimal styling? Just look at the entire modernist artistic and design movement. The current line up of Apple doesn't simply stem from one designer, it stems from an entire previous movement. It isn't a bad thing, but stop sucking Apple's balls and pretending they have invented the wheel. For all of you still clueless, search Bauhaus.
- LLLSecretChimp, on 01/14/2008, -0/+13Good thing Braun didn't patent rounded corners.
- niczar, on 01/14/2008, -0/+10Nope, that would be an hypercube.
- anaesthetica, on 01/14/2008, -1/+11Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!
- betobeto, on 01/14/2008, -0/+10No design in the recent history of mankind is completely devoid of any past influences or references. It would be just too naive to assume that Mr. Ive and company never had at least a tad of inspiration taken from the design of products such as those by Braun and other European product designers. It's just the way it's always been.
- RetlawST, on 01/14/2008, -2/+11They brought a vintage concept to a "futuristic" product. Computer complexity was increasing: more i/o ports, more capabilities, more technology and Apple looked to the past and asked, "How has this issue been dealt with before." Many companies do this quite well.
What you are referring to, however, is the trend to produce goods similar to what's popular at the time. Just because x product's design is great, doesn't mean y design which is copied from x is any good. In fact, this leads to really crappy designs, because while the designers of y know what x looks like, they don't know WHY. - CraigJ, on 01/14/2008, -18/+27I don't really see it, other than the perforated aluminum on that case, which is simply a choice of materials. The TV / iMac comparison is lame. There are lots of TVs out there I could say look like that one, I.E. black border and rectangular in shape. The use of a flat dial for the tuner on a radio has been used many, many times: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/arch ... for example.
Just because both designers are great minimalist designers does not mean any copying is going on. - AprilEthereal, on 01/14/2008, -0/+9http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/ ...
- inactive, on 01/14/2008, -2/+11Now I'm going to look up some Braun products on ebay.
- bjs3171, on 01/14/2008, -15/+23it's still retarded. LOOK! APPLE DESIGNED A CUBE! AND BRAUN HAS CUBE SHAPED PRODUCT! OMG!
- postalblowfish7, on 01/14/2008, -1/+9"Bad artists copy. Great artists steal." -Pablo Picasso
- FatLoser, on 01/15/2008, -2/+10Don't you dare criticize Apple and/or hold them to the same standard as other companies. If this was Microsoft products there would be 500 flaming threads already. Since it's Apple... the closest you get is they "steal well."
- sv650touring, on 01/14/2008, -0/+7Ive and Apple both win design awards and are universally considered among the best individual designers and best design firms around. People who bash Apple design are free to their opinion, but their opinion is often determined more out of contempt than real thought.
When I worked at a Ducati dealerships, 17-year old boys would often ask things like "But why would I get this if the GSX-R is faster for less money?" We called them "Spec-sheet Junkies".
/Just because I use a PC 99.9% of the time, and all of my motorcycles were Suzukis, doesn't mean I can't appreciate a nice design when I see it. -
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