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- isomorf, on 11/18/2008, -0/+115So basically, in order to play the movie on that projector, he would have to download a pirated version?
Way to discourage piracy, Apple! - dig1x, on 11/18/2008, -4/+66Steve Jobs is the largest single shareholder, and sits on the Board of Walt Disney Corp.
Walt Disney Corp. is a rabid anti-fair-use zealot.
Walt Disney Corp. is a "leading" MPAA / RIAA member.
Apple is **not** your friend in the digital media future. - prossi10, on 11/18/2008, -2/+57Another shining example of DRM effectiveness! What a great technology.
- alperea, on 11/18/2008, -2/+41Steve Jobs is a Disney shareholder. Apple =/= your friend in digital media.
- Dalhectar, on 11/18/2008, -1/+36So first you have to buy the adapter to get your old monitor to work with some obscure port. Then your old monitor still doesn't work, so you have to buy a new monitor.
- Shuk, on 11/20/2008, -5/+36I don't understand why people bash Vista's DRM when Apple is by far much worse with this kind of stuff.
- KMartSheriff, on 11/18/2008, -3/+31Seriously. This is utter *****. I'm really starting to hate the way Apple is going.
/soon to be ex-Apple fanboy - zenetik, on 11/19/2008, -0/+25Another great example of the problem with DRM -- it's arbitrary and draconian. Thankfully, automobiles don't use DRM. Otherwise we'd only be able to drive on certain roads, with certain passengers, use specific brands of gasoline and motor oil, and generally only be able to park the car in a maximum of 5 places before having to delete one space and registering another.
- zeabu, on 11/19/2008, -2/+23I've always said "Apple is the new Microsoft".
- CoreyTamas, on 11/20/2008, -1/+21Actually, Apple making it harder for you to watch The Love Guru is sort of a favor.
- geoken, on 11/20/2008, -2/+16This is the official "We ***** told you" to every fanboy who was bashing MS for the DRM they included in Vista. Apple has not only matched, but 'one-upped' anything Vista has done.
I wonder when the inaccurate white paper detailing how this will cripple your computers performance will make the rounds.
Do the jobs followers feel dumb yet for actually believing the open letter on DRM that he wrote way back, or have you guys already come up with a lame reasoning to excuse his obvious double speak? - schrutefan, on 11/20/2008, -0/+13Found a work-around:
http://thepiratebay.org/ - vt4000, on 11/20/2008, -0/+13***** the MPAA
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -2/+14No, ***** Apple.
- billessig, on 11/20/2008, -0/+12No, ***** them both.
- jphandley, on 11/20/2008, -0/+12Maybe Apple should go back and watch their 1984 commercial! Talk about becoming big brother. Way to lose lots of cool points.
- darkism, on 11/20/2008, -0/+12Isn't this only a problem if you're silly enough to pay for DRMed content in the first place?
- geoken, on 11/20/2008, -0/+11Exactly my thoughts. Microsoft included the 'protected path' to be able to play BluRay but has never used it for it's own content. How is that worse than Apple making the 'protected path' and using it for it's own content?
- ehbee, on 11/20/2008, -1/+12Time to boycott itunes HD content until we get some word from APPL about what they are going to do about this. Or not do. Let's spread the word.
- PaulRay, on 11/20/2008, -0/+9Ya know, every time Apple comes out with some new and sexy thing that makes me say,"Wow, nice! I might just buy a Mac.", they screw it up with some proprietary *****, this is just the latest and for me biggest *****!
Guess I'll stick to OSS, I really like this new Macbook Pro too... sigh... - inactive, on 11/20/2008, -1/+10http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dproduct.jsp?prod_id=4715
- hugolp, on 11/20/2008, -4/+13I fail to see how Apple's DRM is by far much worse than Vista's DRM. They both suck.
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -4/+13It's trendy to blindly bash Windows while simultaneously jerking off over Apple. Didn't you get the memo?
- haikuFU, on 11/20/2008, -0/+8Somebody should make a dongle that tricks it into thinking there is HDCP.
- haentz, on 11/20/2008, -3/+11VLC FTW!
- MissMyZDtv, on 11/18/2008, -1/+9This is not good at all. Several times a week I connect my MacBook to my onkyo receiver and let it route the audio and video. Look like no new purchase until this is figured out...
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -2/+9If you were an apple fanboy to begin with, you're easily lead.
Look, I love apple hardware. Always have. I love OS X, coming from a thoroughly big-iron Unix background. I love that I don't have to do ***** for my computer to do its thing, man. I don't have to screw with it all the time. I get paid for screwing with computer systems professionally---the last thing I want is something that isn't precisely what I need it to be in the very moment, at home where I don't get paid for anything.
But there have always been parts of apple's little plan for my habits that I've rejected. For example, I use the iTunes store frequently, but only for iphone apps and podcasts, and to stick an Audible book on my iphone now and again. I get my DRM-free music elsewhere with no issues at all, and iTunes has never had a problem with that. I get my DRM-free video from elsewhere as well, converted to an mp4 if needed with any one of a handful of free video converters. iTunes also has no problem with them.
I do not like dealing with DRMed media, so I do not. My macbook has no problem with that. iTunes has no problem with that. No one has any problem with that anywhere.
So, I will not use this service of apple's. That's my choice, see. No one is forcing anyone to do anything here, yet you ***** are still fighting about god only knows what. If you buy a movie through apple's store, you'll just have to deal with playing it on apple's *****. If however, like me, you do not like having your media forever bonded to one software/hardware combination, then you can always get your movies elsewhere and import them. That still works, will continue to work, and the lot of you are freaking out for no reason at all. - Murdats, on 11/20/2008, -6/+13because microsoft = evil apple = good.
people will bash microsoft over anything (I have seen people say how bill gates donating so much money is a bad and evil thing) but apple will be praised for anything, or at the least defended. - EntropyFan, on 11/20/2008, -1/+8In all fairness, it isn't really Apple's fault (nor MS's, but that of course didn't stop the MS bashing around here...)
It is the people who own the rights to the movie that force things like HDCP. All Apple, MS or anyone else does is make it possible to play the locked content; they don't demand that the content be locked.
Apple crosses the 'evil' line more then MS here (as Jobs is a major Disney shareholder and therefore one of the people demanding the content be locked), but the content creation industry as a whole is to blame, and needs to rethink how it does business. - bigsteve, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6It's .. the ***** same! They both use an encryption scheme-based DRM, and HDCP to back it up. Apple just has a successful music store.
- WoollyMittens, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6The pirate version play just fine of course. It makes you wonder why the legitimate users are punished again. Honest buyers are easy targets and suckers for punishment.
Well, you should just do what the MPAA and the RIAA seem to force you to do: Pirate it! - inactive, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6This really sucks. Remember when Apple was supposed to be somewhat counter-culture?
- geoken, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5You and every other RDF immune human.
You really need to be pounding back the cool-aid to watch Apple's practices and not see an attempt at vendor lock-in which makes MS look like the FSF. - WiggyWack, on 11/19/2008, -1/+6Haha.... "It messes with your rods and cones!"
http://www.maccomedy.com/new-macbook-copy-protecti ... - Ratteler, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5Gee, Every movie from every torrent site I've tried plays just fine.
Maybe if you ***** stop paying big studios to revoke your rights, they'll produce a product worth paying for. - inactive, on 11/20/2008, -1/+6Have you tried it? Routing audio and video is not a problem. You do not understand the issue and are already assuming you're a victim.
- aolshove, on 11/20/2008, -0/+4This is just a probability problem. When you put all your faith/resources into one company's products, there's a greater probability that the product you purchased will wind up with a "feature" such as this in a co-branding scheme or similar partnership with some other large company whether you agree with that other company's policies or not.
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -1/+5Just do an actual boycott and don't buy it unless APPLE removes it, not until someone releases a program circumventing the DRM. No company will ever respond to DRM by you avoiding buying until a third party solution is made -- they still get their money and are as happy as can be.
- bigsteve, on 11/20/2008, -1/+5For all those quick to blame Apple... you're... not entirely wrong. Just a little.
Apple didn't implement this technology because they wanted to, or because they thought it was a neat idea. They did it at the request of content providers. Now, being that they possess the largest and most successful online distribution medium, I'd like to think that they'd be able to negotiate their way around this. The display represents only a theoretical avenue by which to pirate HD video, but an interesting one nonetheless.
Microsoft also implements HDCP to certify displays as "safe" but considering it's just an encryption scheme, it's theoretically very breakable. Considering that it hasn't been yet, tells me that display interception as an avenue for piracy hasn't been actively investigated yet.
This all said, vote with your dollar. Don't support DRM in any of it's forms. - geoken, on 11/20/2008, -1/+5Why would a plot to kill HD-DVD still be ongoing?
That's like attributing some current event to 'The plot to kill Napoleon" - TheMadCow, on 11/20/2008, -0/+4I'm more curious about why you would actually "buy" a copy of HellBoy 2 as a download instead of the Disc/Box. Or perhaps it's just a case of more money than brains.
- raydeen, on 11/20/2008, -0/+4So buy the new MacBook Pro, wipe it clean and install your distro of choice. Then go to Starbucks and watch all the trendies spew their lattes when they see what you've done.
- bjornski, on 11/20/2008, -0/+3Quit trying to bury ***** I haven't seen just because YOU read it before.
- NicoNicoNico, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3I agree. I can't switch to Linux because I'm a design student and don't want Windows, but this is becoming too much. Sure, it's only iTunes Store, but it's the principle of the thing.
Good thing I don't buy anything off of iTunes store. I was switching computers for a time and got sick of authorizing/deauthorizing material, so I deleted all the songs I bought off of there. (It was one album and two songs, so it wasn't much. I wasted money, but I don't buy off of iTunes anymore.) - bigsteve, on 11/20/2008, -0/+3Nope, Vista has it just fine.
http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/hardware/hd ... - sickb13, on 11/20/2008, -1/+4***** losers. How does HDCP fit into Apple's cool, trendy image? I will tell you how - it doesn't - at all. It fits into the reality that they are just a large corporate entity designed to extract as much money as possible from consumers.
- ozskier, on 11/20/2008, -0/+3DRM on my MacBook Pro is about as useful as ***** on a bull.
- ninjadave, on 11/20/2008, -2/+5Isn't there software that strips the DRM from iTunes purchases?
- futurepastnow, on 11/20/2008, -0/+3You old monitor works fine, except for HDCP-protected media. Solution: do not buy movies or music with DRM.
- MacParrot, on 11/20/2008, -0/+3Simple solution. Don't buy a new MacBook or any other product (Apple or not) that forces you to use HDCP. I would say that it might change things, but it most likely won't. As long as Apple, Microsoft, or (name digital content distributer here) have to kowtow to digital content copyright holders over DRM or hardware installed to directly prevent using new technology for content, things won't change.
This is bigger than Apple or being able to watch movies -
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