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Apple accidently releases "Dashcode"
flickr.com — After receiving a new Macbook Pro and installing the included developer tools, a curious application made an appearance under /Developer/Applications. You can download Apple's widget creation tool here: http://filebucket.org/71g871e712/102/Dashcode.tar.bz2 This is NOT included in Xcode 2.3
- 1666 diggs
- digg it
- RyeBrye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14I just played around with it for a few minutes. The program doesn't feel quite "final" - (I encountered a few bugs while playing with it) but it is certainly makes widget creation incredibly easy. I wonder when Apple will officially release it...
- DCUK, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Here's a mirror before it gets dugg.
http://www.plunder.com/-download-2953.htm - tuxuser, on 10/12/2007, -46/+4what about linux? can those widgets be used with linux?
- riot, on 10/12/2007, -42/+10http://mu.dr.ag/Dashcode.tar.bz2
mirror - zcreem, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18SiteAdvisor turns a very bright shade of red with the above link beware
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/dr.ag?ref=safe&aff_id=0 - geekThing, on 10/12/2007, -31/+7Can anyone post screenshots for us without macs?
- geekdreams, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10@geekThing - click the article's title.
- rasterbator, on 10/29/2007, -12/+2The only bad thing is now I can rip anyone's dashboard widget and steal their intellectual property and use it for my own dashboard widget. Will Apple address this? Or are most dashboard creators fine with this program? For example, I just ripp'd istat pro which is NOT free through the app and now I can change anything I want.
- Ireland, on 10/29/2007, -12/+1"Here's a mirror before it gets dugg." Ok a bit of a dumb question, but could somebody define "mirror" in this case?
- greasyp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9rasterbator: you could already do this anyway, a Dashboard widget is really not much more than a directory with HTML, Javascript and CSS files in it.
- ferrisb, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10"The only bad thing is now I can rip anyone's dashboard widget..."
You've always been able to do this - a widget is just a folder, with a .wdgt extension. Remove the extension, and it's cake to browse the contents of the widget. - rspeed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10@ferrisb
Or just right(ctrl)-click on the widget package and select "Show Package Contents".
@geekThing
Wow. Just... wow. - tuxuser, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2why did i get modded?
- gaehl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1rasterbator, um istat pro is free its not open source but it is free. check it out here http://www.islayer.com/index.php?op=item&id=7
- DCUK, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Here's a mirror before it gets dugg.
- Nick_Circosta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9this is WICKED, just what ive been looking for cant wait till its out in final
- ChOas, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Downloading now so I can't check, but I think this must be something like Widgetarium...
http://projects.gandreas.com/widgetarium/ - Ireland, on 10/29/2007, -4/+5It look easier to use, and clearer than Widgetarium, but I suppose it is form apple :)
- ChOas, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Downloading now so I can't check, but I think this must be something like Widgetarium...
- PRESS_00, on 10/12/2007, -12/+5Is this like a visual basic type program?
- Nick_Circosta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8in a way... yes its drag and drop and easy to manage.. and it gives you a split view for code and visual... this is great
- Dog_Paddle, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6This is pretty bad ass. To bad I don't know anything about Javascript.
- clifyt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10How much Javascript does one need to know for this sort of thing?
And can you use libraries such as the YahooUI or Prototype with it? I take it its just simple HTML / JS mixed with some proprietary Apple stuff (like Safari / Webkit's Canvas). I'm not that great at js, but I can muddle my way through if I need to -- and some of these new js toolkits make it almost a non-issue (if its possible).
I'm just upset I didn't bring my Powerbook today so that I could check this stuff out :-) - l0ne, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Since they're HTML pages, you can use Yahoo! UI or Prototype with it if you want.
Uh, and the canvas is now in Firefox 1.5 too.
- clifyt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10How much Javascript does one need to know for this sort of thing?
- jason7655, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3looks like the file is gone.
- unkn0wn, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2I can repost it somewhere else if you'd like. Any suggestions?
- windsok, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8thepiratebay.org
- powerbookguy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4the file is still there...I just downloaded it 10 seconds ago.
- ken52787, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13In case it does go away, I made a mirror:
http://www.bandwidthorbust.com/mirror/Dashcode.tar.bz2
- Ryosen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I was able to get it, no problems. Thanks! Digg+
- PRESS_00, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5I dunno, there's a lot of these "accidents" going on with Apple. This is free buzz on the basis that people think they're being let into a secret...
- skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -24/+6Let it never be said that Apple doesn't know their customer base well - smug A-holes who usually think they know it all. ;)
- mark1372, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Is it really a secret if it's been floating around since October? See http://www.flickr.com/photos/chucker/sets/1281598/ for some more shots from last seven months ago.
- milkfilk, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3So this is a bad story then! No digg.
- windsok, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1unkn0wn,
Can you post the details written on your Mac OS X install discs? such as Disk Version, build numbers etc, so others can check their own discs and see if they have the same- unkn0wn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2My install disc is at home, when I get a chance I'll post any relevant build numbers.
- mark1372, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Why are you calling this accidental? Hardly. Info and screenshots of Dashcode have been around for a while.
- rufo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Heh, I have it installed on my system - just like the post says, I bought a shiny new MBP from Apple and installed the Dev Tools.
Disc info:
Mac OS version 10.4.6
AHT version 3A107
Disc Version 1.3
2Z691-5381-A- unkn0wn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I checked, and that is the exact same disc info as mine.
- viruz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9mirror, I'll keep it up for a gig or 2 the more it spreads, the least likely it will ever be lost and apple can't shut it down if it spreads all over.
http://www.pixpose.com/Dashcode.app.rar - aquanutz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0this is sweet
- ismhackett, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0awesome
- webXL, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3As if there weren't enough widgets already out there. But now if there's something you'd like to change about your favorite widget, this works really well as an editor.
Apple needs to take a page from Konfabulator (Yahoo), Windows Gadgets, and now Google Desktop and make it easier to have these things sitting on the desktop all the time. Every time I hit F12, it's information overload. I know you can drag widgets out on the desktop, but there's no way to pin or dock them and keep them from covering up other windows. You would think widescreen users would have demanded that ability by now to take advantage of all the real estate. It sure would be nice if Google could port their sidebar to the Mac or Apple could just imitate some of that functionality.- kcampos, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Apple imitate Google??? Hmmm, Apple pioneered widgets, I'm sure 10.5 will have some serious updates to widget layouts. But let's just remember who imitates who here.
- thinkdifferent, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Not really. Dashboard works well because you DON'T want that on your desktop all the time. If it was, it'd be taking up real estate I could use for something else. I think that's one of the bad things about Konfabulator. It's best to think of Dashboard as an overlay on top of your desktop. With one button (or mouse click) you can show & hide it.
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I'm an Apple fan and even I know Apple didn't pioneer widgets.
I also prefer having the widgets 'on-demand' rather than always on the desktop. It's easy to set up hot corners in OS X so getting your dashboard to show up is just a flick of the wrist. - mikepak, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Technically, Next started the whole "widget" design so I guess you can say apple did it first by association.
- macrat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I would also prefer to have a widget accessible all the time as a regular app. I don't want to switch to the Dashboard interface.
- silent1, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1@ckampos: "Apple pioneered widgets..." ... Uh, no, they most certainly did not. I'm all for Apple and all, but Dashboard is a direct rip-off of Konfabulator, which has been around a *LOT* longer. Research your comments before posting them, please.
- Dakk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I liked widgets when they were called Desk Accessories. Remember Desk Accessories in Mac OS 1.0 back in the 80's?
- Zorlen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@silent1
Apple Desk Accessories existed long before Konfabulator. Konfabulator merely implemented Apple's idea on OS X before Apple got around to it. Check your facts before you reply. - blugu64, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@Dakk
Ahh-hem....I think you mean System 1.0, it's only been called Mac OS since 7.6 - shadedream, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not to mention if they are on your desktop running at all times they are consuming resources at all times... once you put away the dashboard the widgets stop consuming processor time for the most part.
- Dakk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4@blugu64: You being in retrograde, I can call it Macintosh OS 1.0 and you'll understand me. Plus, before I clicked Submit Comment, I wondered if someone would nerd up and split hairs... and gosh... they did. You are a winner!
- blugu64, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ Dakk
Sorry, didn't mean to come off that way. Pet Peeve of mine I guess. - saddino, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0@webXL
You can pin them into the desktop (and lock them in place) using Amnesty.
- umdigger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I hope to see some sweet new widgets come from the creative apple users.
- echobucket, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Is this intel compiled only? It won't run on my iBook G4 here
- ambethia, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Fortunately for us, there's no such thing as 'intel compiled only'. It's either Universal or PPC.
- thinkdifferent, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@ambethia
"Fortunately for us, there's no such thing as 'intel compiled only'. It's either Universal or PPC."
Not true. You can compile for PPC only, Intel only or Universal. However, it doesn't make any sense for a developer to compile for Intel only as the install base isn't that big yet for Intel macs. - windsok, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1not true, you can compile for intel only if you want to.
- computerdude33, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually, there is Intel-compiled only. Look at 1001 (the great flickr app) for an Intel-only version.
EDIT: to thinkdifferent: there might be software that can only be run on a Mactel. - chucker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nope, it's Universal.
- glenr78, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The rar link at the top didn't work for me on my PowerBook - however the other mirror link did:
http://www.bandwidthorbust.com/mirror/Dashcode.tar.bz2 - Lifelogger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Having problems running it on my Powerbook G4 (latetest edition). I can't load it, as is quits right away...
- colonels1020, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is awesome. I can't wait to make a widget!
And to answer your question, it is universal, so it should work on your iBook. - fizzeh, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1AMAZING...DIGG++;
- inkhead, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1IT IS VERY MUCH NOT FINISHED. BETA. WOOPS
- kidjay, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2my idvd app seems to have emptied itself to 0kb after running and deleting this app...everyone check it out, just a heads up.
- computerdude33, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Nope, still an obscenely large 1.47GB.
- masterchief, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8if you want a widget on your desktop just type this into terminal
defaults write com.apple.dashboard devmode YES
logout or restart and then when you drag your widget from the dashboard, press whatever key you use to open dahsboard and then drop it and it'll be on your desktop
http://www.thefifthrule.com- vtwin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You don't need to type this in the terminal for it to work...
Just drag the widget out of the DashBoard bar, hit the DashBoard key (F12 by default) and drop it on the desktop.
- vtwin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You don't need to type this in the terminal for it to work...
- peruytu, on 10/12/2007, -24/+0All these recent "accidents" by Apple makes me wonder about their new PR staff. They must be a capable bunch.
Apple accidents + no life-having Apple (& Nintendo) fanboys = $$$$$$$$$ to a piece of $hit company - iWorks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There are no accidents... only sourcecode you don't yet have.
- manbergur, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7must - get - macbook - too bad i dont have endless reserves of money.. ahh well
- Lutz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3ey come on... don't digg him down, do you digg down children longing for christmas as well? :)
- silent1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@rasterbator: "The only bad thing is now I can rip anyone's dashboard widget and steal their intellectual property and use it for my own dashboard widget."
It's brain-dead-easy to do so even now. It's just a folder with content. - Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Anyone recommend a good soup-to-nuts book on developing for OS X? I've developed for Windows using VB, VC++, and Java, but I've never taken the plunge into OS X.. since I'm thinking of migrating my desktop over when the G5's successor comes along since I love my iBooks so much, It's probably time to take start plugging away.
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well if you want to write widgets, you just need to know Javascript and CSS pretty much. But if you mean application development, most are Objective-C and Cocoa, so look for books on that.
- Angostura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I would probably go here http://developer.apple.com/ and join the free 'online' version of Apple Developer Connection. It gives you access to developer-specific forums and a few other goodies, including online reference material. The guys in the forums there will probably be able to give specific info on the best books.
- oiledandsupple, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I would start with the Steven Kochan book "Programming in Objective C" to get the foundation of the language. It assumes you're a beginner but lays a great groundwork to move on to Cocoa. For Cocoa, pick up Aaron Hillegass' "Cocoa Programming for MacOS X"
- JohnnySoftware, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You can get TONS of free information on programming the Mac - not to mention Xcode and sundry SDKs - over at http://developer.apple.com/
Apple's Xcode uses the famous Gnu C Compiler (GCC). So it produces fast, efficient code - and Apple doesn't have to waste its time maintaining a cutting edge C/C /Objective-C compiler. They can focus on the things that are unique to their platform environments. Just look at how many new OS versions and features they have come out with in the past 5 years. It seems to be working for them!
A very recent book on the subject of Mac development is "Beginning Xcode" (by James Bucanek, (c) 2006, published by wrox).
It covers a number of topics relating to directly Xcode - the standard/free IDE for the Mac. Objective-C, Cocoa, Carbon, AppleScript - you are supposed to learn elsewhere. The API stuff is very well covered the Apple Developer website - and in the copious online documentation bundle you can grab when you get the latest Xcode.
A nice book on AppleScript programming, if you want to do scripting on the Mac (it is _way_ powerful scripting), is: "AppleScript for Dummies". He covers the language, how to program in it, and what to use it for. A lot of programs under Mac OS X are scriptable, especially ones from Apple. He shows you how to program them. The whole book is written in tutorial fashion. It is not one of those half tutorial, half reference books. You will get plenty of reference material in Apple's documentation.
O'Reilly makes a decent book about Objective-C in the form of one of those ten dollar pocket-sized references. The main language for programming OS X, at least in Cocoa (the NS* API classes) is Objective-C. If you want to use an object-oriented framework on the Mac, you had better learn that.
Java runs on the Mac and at least up through JDK 1.4 you could call Cocoa stuff directly, via a semi-transparent adapter layer. I think it is still there in the the Mac version of JDK 1.5 (J5SE) but Apple has talked about phasing it out because apparently it is a maintenance headache for their engineering team.
Java programs run pretty well on the Macintosh. So does Ruby. You will frequently see screenshots, screencasts, and photos in programming books by these developers that were obviously taken on a Mac.
Eclipse IDE for Java (and now Ruby, etc.) runs fine on the Macintosh.
So does RadRails (www.RadRails.org), though you need to go look at the instructions a guy blogged about 5 months ago, cited in Apple's latest Ruby On Rails article, to get Ruby 1.8.4 and Ruby On Rails 1.1.2 (latest versions) installed (properly, ahem!) on your Mac.
The Apache Java and XML related software seems to work fine on the Macintosh. Of course, Apache 1.3 web server comes with the operating system. People might not know that, but it does.
In general, Macintosh programming tools are free from Apple, and many other sources. This tends to have a "snowball" effect and makes most software on the Macintosh very affordable. Which explains why so many developers using multiplatform languages have gravitated towards the Macintosh.
Before you go too wild buying Mac programming books, download the latest Xcode from Apple's site, and the documentation bundle if it is not included, and see what you got. Then decide what you want to do, and figure out what else you need.
Here are some links to some web pages that have some decent material about Objective-C on them:
http://digg.com/apple/Apple_Updates_Xcode_2.3_Developer_Tools#c1790570
Oh, and Xcode 2.3 just came out.
- MostlyWrong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Apple democratized the Lisa and introduced desk accessories in 1984.
This predates Konfabulator by maybe 18 years. See http://www.mac512.com/system10.htm- evilspoons, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Scrolling on that page makes my brain hurt, the background flickers on my LCD...
What interests me is that the 'desk accessories' disappeared for something between 15-20 years and then only resurfaced as Widgets after Konfabulator built a modern version. - vtwin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You better get a LCD with a better refresh rate.
Both happened in the same time-frame because OS X became mature enough for projects like this.
Desk Accessories were still present in OS 9.x. Since the Apple menu changed purpose in OS X, they were relegated to be a few .apps in the Dock. It wouldn't be surprising that Apple had plans to rejuvenate the Desk Accessories in OS X since a long time ago, but was waiting to solidify OS X's base.
Using a high-level language like javascript to build them was a simple logical step. Webkit already has many uses in OS X, and it was a perfect basis to build DashBoard on.
- evilspoons, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Scrolling on that page makes my brain hurt, the background flickers on my LCD...
- musichris777, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3so yea, it crashed on me a couple times, and i finally sent an error report to apple. i thought to myself, should i really have done that?
- Angostura, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"PUT THE MACINTOSH DOWN AND PLACE YOUR HANDS ON YOUR HEAD"
- Gryffydd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm just wondering if the quotation marks in the headline should have been around "accidently" rather than "Dashcode"
- ericjbolt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1has anyone tried to make a widget with the program? I am having trouble dragging an object from the Library to the canvas (as in not able to do so). Any help would be appreciated.
- vtwin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2DashCode is HyperCard 2006! Native color support, at last!
The ironic thing is that HyperCard served as an inspiration for the World Wide Web. - superrcat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Nice. I hope the next major release of Xcode uses the same type of interface elements, like combining interface design and code view.
- dkedinger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I was able to make a countdown widget for a website I am designing that goes live in a couple of months in a few minutes.
- tuxuser, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1until some one answers i'll keep posting
- njren78, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Are you kidding me?
What are you going to do, annoy us into submission?
- njren78, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Are you kidding me?
- tuxuser, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1so does any one know if apples widgets will work with linux?
- Taskman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1They cannot work on Linux, damnit!
- njren78, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0No. Happy?
- l0ne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1KDE 4 is rumored to have a Dashboard compatibility layer.
- sonyyouth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ tuxuser:
Apple Widgets are just HTML & JavaScript - so there is no reason why they can't run on Linux. Sometimes they use command line stuff through Javascript, but since OS X command line is Unix, again: why not? What you could not do (obviously) is run AppleScript commands, such as playing or stopping iTunes.
However, Apple Widgets require an engine to run. No engine exists for Linux at present to run Apple Widgets.
(No such thing as a stupid question, cinemafia.)
- webdav, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Doesn't seem to like my PowerBook... :(
- kabz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That's odd because it just started up and runs great on my 1.5GHz 12" G4 AlBook. Very nice, maybe I can get round to writing a stock tracker that actually does what I want.
- webdav, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Anyone have another mirror? I'd like to take a look at this but the one I downloaded doesn't seem to run on my PowerBook and the other mirrors quite the d/l before all 3.1mb is there...
- buglord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2if you're having problems with the mirrors, theres a torrent at tpb.org:
http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3489335 - NSCocoa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://www.nscocoa.com/Dashcode.tar.bz2
- google636, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Now they just have to expand it into a powerful WYSIWYG editor - I haven't had much time with iWeb, but Dashcode looks like it has a lot of power in that area.
- JulesLt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What they really want to do is let people run Widgets how they like - in the Dashboard overlay, as desktop widgets, or simply as applications in the dock. You can already do the second using Amnesty.
However, I suspect there were sound engineering reasons why Apple went for the overlay approach over the Konfabulator approach, and they won't be inclined to do anything to make it easy for your average user to bring their machine to it's knees using first-party software.
(I've just thought of a fourth way - from bookmarks in Safari). - rwkreutzer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I am having a problem with Dashcode using xmlHttpRequest. I am simply unable to get it to work at all. I get back a readyState of 4 but the request.status is undefined.
When I run the same identical thing in Safari, it works.
Here is my test code:
var Req = false;
function convert() {
var s = escape(document.getElementById("startText").value);
var url = "http://mydomain.com/testscript?type=xml&Search="+s;
Req = new XMLHttpRequest();
Req.onreadystatechange = processReqChange;
Req.open("GET", url);
Req.send(null);
}
function processReqChange() {
if (Req.readyState == 4) {
// if (Req.readyState == 4 && Req.status == 200) {
var xml = Req.responseXML;
var decoderPage = xml.getElementsByTagName('DecoderPage');
alert("Req.status: "+Req.status);
alert("StatusText: "+Req.statusText);
alert("NodeList: "+decoderPage.length);
alert("Returned XML: "+Req.responseText);
}
}
Running with "lynx -source" display the returned XML fine, as does Firefox. It works everywhere but inside the Dashcode debugger.
I have searched with google and no one else seems to have this problem, so it must be something I am missing.
Can anyone shed some light on why this could be!
Thanks!
P.S. Any suggestions where else I might post this problem would also be welcome. - djcraze, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0or, ya know just goto Apple, and goto the developer section, and download it there?
https://connect.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/MemberSite.woa/204/wo/39XK5sikbZyQ2oSdAvK1B4coIj1/0.0.17.2.1.3.0.1.2.1.1.0 - urbanrhino, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0could someone please host this for a brief download or drop it in the public folder of my idisk?
I'm dying to play with it and can't find it anywhere. The seed has been removed from the developer connection - knvb1123, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Its gone! Where can I get this now?
I will host this like forever
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