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- xero69, on 11/02/2009, -1/+106I hope this move (if and when it happens) helps encourage cable companies to cut channels that are pure crap and reduce their prices. All we want is choice instead of having to pick packages that contain dozens of channels we will never watch.
- kolop1, on 11/03/2009, -7/+56If I can't get live sports, no thanks.
- srodolff, on 11/03/2009, -3/+46All my TV, you say.......All my movies, you say........All my sporting events, you say.............I say, we'll see...........
- peestandingup, on 11/03/2009, -9/+51I dont trust Apple these days as far as I can throw em. Im sure theyll put some awful DRM on those files, wont let you take them with you on the go (unless its an iPod or iPhone of course) & other crap restrictions.
No, I think I will stick with torrents. Thanks. - lolwatermelon, on 11/03/2009, -3/+35Apple makes pennies per song sale, minus the cost of all the bandwidth used with millions of people downloading millions of songs. The record companies take 2/3 of the profit and don't have to cover any of the overhead. There are no victims here.
- Chirp08, on 11/03/2009, -2/+28You apparently have no idea what the history is between Apple and the Music industry. You should be thanking Apple for paving the way with the $1 per song, because that is not what the Music industry wanted to charge. Before you talk profits try to comprehend the overheads associated with cataloging, storing, and delivering that amount of data. I doubt Apple is making more then a few pennies a song.
- raydeen, on 11/03/2009, -2/+28This is a bad thing?
- lolwatermelon, on 11/03/2009, -2/+24You know, I'd actually sign up for this if it was all on demand. There are a lot of shows I like, but I forget their timeslot, so I end up downloading everything. With something like this, I'd be able to catch all the shows I like.
- RizzosBack, on 11/03/2009, -0/+22Yeah but if we go ala carte a ton of material is going to disappear. Most of those channels will die off if they don't have the viewership to justify their budgets.
That said, it may mean the end of Lifetime... - mochaman, on 11/02/2009, -7/+29It looks like Apple realized that AppleTV sucks, how long before the networks cave in? Holliwood and the networks are not in the same position as the music industry was 6 years ago.
- buddahead9, on 11/03/2009, -1/+21problem with that idea is that the channels with crappy reality tv shows will probably stick around and the ones that actually have decent content will fade out.
- lolwatermelon, on 11/03/2009, -2/+20"You should be thanking Apple for paving the way with the $1 per song, because that is not what the Music industry wanted to charge."
Exactly, if the music industry were allowed to dictate prices they'd be charging the same price for a download as they do for an entire physical album while disallowing individual track downloads. Hell, they'd probably charge a 'convenience' charge for the download. - leeg, on 11/03/2009, -4/+22I don't care who puts this kind of service out. I'll be all over it like a fat kid on a chocolate bar. This is how I want my TV delivered.
- Chirp08, on 11/03/2009, -1/+16$30 a month on top of internet access isn't exactly cheap. Every cable provider is going to jack its prices for anyone wanting internet access without a TV bundle defeating any advantage. On the bright side Apple might cause the FCC to take notice and get the industry providing a quality of service the rest of the world has at the prices the rest of the world is paying.
- superkendall, on 11/03/2009, -0/+14Why do you want DVR when you get it on demand? That makes no sense. There is no DVR, there is just downloading shows you want to watch.
- tacojohn48, on 11/03/2009, -1/+15Lifetime will never die. Too many grandmothers think it is the only station on TV. My grandmother is always telling me about some movie she watched on lifetime and asked if I saw it.
- jscnet, on 11/03/2009, -2/+14I don't own a TV.
- Orbital101, on 11/03/2009, -6/+17Actually, Apple is against DRM. They don't want it. They are completely unconcerned about whether or not you pirate media. In fact, it probably works out better for them if you do (cause you might buy more Macs to do it with). You'll also notice that they've worked on removing DRM from iTunes purchases as well. Apple has nothing to lose by eliminating DRM.
The reason they apply it is because the content providers (the RIAA and MPAA) flat-out refuse to let Apple sell their content unless it's locked down with DRM. You will notice that as the iTunes store gains momentum and market share, you see more DRM-free content... because Apple knows that content providers would be shooting themselves in the foot now to remove their products from the store. Hopefully, as Apple gains more influence in the market space, DRM will be removed from the content all together.
Apple may be a lot of lousy things... but they aren't your problem where DRM is concerned. - Wilddigi, on 11/03/2009, -3/+13My cable brings me internet, how is Apple going to do that?
- smoger, on 11/03/2009, -1/+11$30 sounds like way too much since Apple wouldn't be providing the pipe. it's safe to assume this would only cover network tv and basic cable stations, and those plans are easy to grab for $30-40 a month traditionally from the Cable Co(and again, THAT includes the bandwidth).
Plus some people need cable for their local programming. Apple probably isn't in a position to provide that. - Charlotte_Web, on 11/03/2009, -0/+9>> It looks like Apple realized that AppleTV sucks, how long before the
>> networks cave in?
On the contrary, Apple TV is accomplishing exactly what Apple positioned it to do.
They didn't give it a DVD player. They didn't give it Blu-Ray. They didn't make it a PVR. They know people want these things out of Apple TV, but Apple isn't going to give it to you. Why?
The Apple TV is a one-trick pony, and that trick is to deliver iTunes content to your TV. This deal is actually what Apple TV is all about. - MacBandit, on 11/03/2009, -1/+10ESPN 8 the OCHO!!!
- ldkronos, on 11/03/2009, -0/+9He said badger, not beaver
- MattDell, on 11/03/2009, -1/+10Netflix doesn't have current programs on offer. You have to wait for the DVD to come out.
- DephexTwin, on 11/03/2009, -0/+7Yeah, only the ones that they will cut will probably be the ones that you find interesting. Sure, shows like Mad Men will survive, but mostly it'll be things like American Idol, Biggest Loser, Reality Show #72834, and other ***** programs that stick around. Really interesting niche channels and shows won't be able to justify their own existence as standalone entities.
- lolwatermelon, on 11/03/2009, -0/+7Sounds like a driver issue.
- lolwatermelon, on 11/03/2009, -2/+9iTunes is a brand now, changing the name would be recognition suicide.
- metaldwarf, on 11/03/2009, -2/+9No.
- geodebug, on 11/03/2009, -3/+10Music industry would be worse off without iTunes. They refused to come up with a workable online purchasing system of their own and as a result Napster was drinking their milkshake. iTunes stepped in and filled the void and, because of the iPod's popularity, got many people buying digital music.
Of course the music industry is greedy and was pissed at iTunes $.99 price point but eventually they negotiated for three price points (in practice only two, still haven't seen a song I'd want for the $.75). In exchange many distributors agreed to remove DRM.
I don't care if you like/hate Apple (I'm on the fence) but let's keep the history correct. If I missed something let me know. - lolwatermelon, on 11/03/2009, -0/+7Yeah, the important part is how quickly they get the shows up. I had a subscription to The Daily Show and Colbert Report and the shows wouldn't get posted until almost a day and a half later.
If they can beat the torrents to the tubes it would be a huge game changing thing. - Dolphtesla, on 11/03/2009, -2/+9Netflix does this for 8.99 a month.
- Joker99352, on 11/03/2009, -1/+7Hmmmmmmm, no.
- maximm, on 11/03/2009, -0/+6Agreed, but if we all do that those shows will disappear. They need a revenue source and we are not it currently.
- maximm, on 11/03/2009, -1/+7I think it's great Apple is trying to make a move forward and keep shows profitable. I do not subscribe to cable anymore, I download straight into my media center and honestly feel a bit guilty because i am contributing nothing to keeping the show on the air. I use ITunes to buy the music I like and would like to do the same for my TV programs. This is a good move I think and sure it may fail or not. At least someone is trying. I would rather have a way to give back to the creators of the shows without the forced advertising and adherence to some networks schedules. This way the good shows would be voted upon by the people who actually pay for and watch them. Not clever statistics and graphs from a network.
If this was already in play shows like Firefly would have never disappeared. I would pay to keep quality programming on the air. - deslock, on 11/03/2009, -0/+6At what cost?
Netflix is already doing this for a large number of TV shows right now along with an unlimited on-demand movie library for $8/month.
I'd pay up to maybe double that for all my tv shows to be added but an Apple $30 for tv, on top of all the movie rental costs, that is friggin insane. Hell no, I wouldn't pay that. That's as much as a cable TV contract which is why I use over the air HD and netflix to avoid in the first place. - markusfarkus, on 11/03/2009, -2/+8I have moved iTunes libraries. It's not a big deal.
- runeasgar, on 11/03/2009, -0/+5If it was in 1080p HD, I'd be all over it.
Until then, at&t U-verse. - MacBandit, on 11/03/2009, -0/+5My cable box has nothing to do with internet. Yes the cable in my house brings my internet but I pay for that separately from my tv package.
- Jonjonr6, on 11/03/2009, -1/+6Without net neutrality, I don't think Apple has much leverage when you're using you're competitor's communications lines to deliver content. Now, those with DSL from a telco or 4G service might not have to worry about that. But those with cable service are almost certain to have issues with network performance.
- deslock, on 11/03/2009, -0/+5@lolwatermelon
Kolop1 didn't mention "only thing" in his post so why would you make that assumption?
I understate when I say, however, that there are millions and millions of viewers that have live sports as a requirement. If you need to have a cable contract and over the air TV, in addition to an Apple $30/month fee for on-demand tv shows, this is non-starter for the vast majority of us.
I think what everyone is looking for is an all on-demand/live replacement for cable and over the air TV. Unless Apple can offer the live piece, why wouldn't everyone just stick with Netflix for far less (and get an all you can eat movie library along with it)?
- JumboJ3t, on 11/03/2009, -3/+8In addition to HD offerings, were I to subscribe to such a service, I would want:
a. On-Demand capability
b. DVR capability.
Apple will likely advertise the former as a feature. They will also most certainly find 69,000,000 ways to disable the latter beyond the shadow of even third-party add-ons.
It's too bad, because a practical over-the-internet mainstream HD TV package with DVR that records right to my computer would undoubtedly be a game changer. - tacojohn48, on 11/03/2009, -2/+7@lolwatermelon - the victims are the artists. Not that they are victimized by apple, but still.
- lolwatermelon, on 11/03/2009, -0/+5I'd accept a few non-skippable commercials in the shows if I was allowed to watch the entire backlog of episodes for shows in the iTunes store already. There's tens of thousands of hours of shows in there.
- superkendall, on 11/03/2009, -1/+6It is? You usually just log give iTunes your login again and everything works...
Besides, how does that relate to any of the problems listed? It doesn't. - thejynxed, on 11/03/2009, -0/+5The sports thing (at least in the USA) will never happen. ESPN has their ***** on lockdown, and Apple is -not- in the picture as far as the major sporting events go. Quite a few events are PPV On Demand as well, so I don't see anyone giving Apple rights to those either.
Maybe they'll try to sell you curling matches from Canada or Badminton from the UK or something. - lolwatermelon, on 11/03/2009, -9/+14When have they ever done any of the things you just said?
- ryansmith18, on 11/03/2009, -1/+5Yes, but their library is limited. And *most* of their shows don't show up in the Instant Queue right after it's been aired on cable.
- Mateo2, on 11/03/2009, -3/+7Right after they rename the iPhone the iMobileCommunicationsDevice
- briLo, on 11/03/2009, -2/+6I'll gladly keep my 360, netflix and BitTorrent any day of the week. itunes = bloat controlling trash
- roxgod666, on 11/03/2009, -1/+5When did this turn into a rant about the MLB Extra Innings package?
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