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- easy4lif, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16wow, half the speed of a mac mini and at half the cost
- dtrinh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Equally ironic that you didn't link to the 'summary' directly :)
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/02/apple-tv-benchmarked-not-a-supercomputer-in-disguise/
In anycase, the db.xbench (primary source) is down and duggmirror and coral cache didn't catch it :/ - ROFLance, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9and it's about half the size :p
- dnields, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10That is because XBench is worthless, not your iBook. XBench doesn't really tell a person anything worthwhile about their machine. Benchmarkers like XBench are no substitute for real world use and experience. Forget what some benchmark says, go with what you can actually see and experience with your machine.
- SteaminTmann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8or even a HTPC, oh.. wait
- jeff303, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@kibibytebrain
Who said anything about Wordpress-esque? It would be sufficient for serving plain HTML+CSS. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8It's perfect for a personal web server.
- bedouin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Exactly. I can throw a faster hard drive and graphics card into my PowerMac and crush another machine with a faster processor and more memory in a benchmark; that doesn't mean that it will be faster for typical use than the aforementioned machine. A great example of that was when I had both a G4 PowerMac and a Core Solo Mini; because my PowerMac has a 10k hard drive and much better graphics card, it had little trouble trumping the Mini in benchmarks. Is the MIni faster at encoding a DVD? Definitely. Could I play a FPS on the MIni comfortably? Nope. It's really all dependent on what you're trying to accomplish with your machine.
I own both a 2ghz MacBook and my 1.4ghz PowerMac; I spend the majority of my time using the PowerMac still. It gets the job done. - SVPirate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The OpenGL tests would blow the Mini out of the water (due to it being an NVIDIA GeForce 7300 Go with a dedicated 64MB block of Video RAM) *if* it wasn't for the fact that they had to remove all the NVIDIA KEXTs (i.e. the graphics chip drivers) to get the graphics working. If someone can work out how to patch in the AppleTV's native video KEXT/driver that'll smack it's XBench score up into the early 60s at least.
- adev, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You know what sucks? My 1.33Ghz iBook (last version before the switch to intel), scores worse on Xbench than the Apple TV. And this iBook isn't some slow worthless machine, it works very well (not the fastest of course) for graphic design work. Too bad you can't upgrade the ram in the apple tv.
- KibibyteBrain, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Not really. It would be, as its very power efficient and its CPU is adequate for low-demand web apps at medium user load, but it only has 256 MB of RAM. Wordpress-esque apps plus a few users would make that machine very miserable quick even with very good optimizations with that little RAM. The RAM limitation gets even worse for using this for different types of servers, like file servers. As good of a design choice as it was, its a shame to hackers that the RAM was direct soldered, or this thing might just be the ideal home server/router/network appliance thing.
- donjaime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If you don't care about gaming or 3D applications, these results are skewed heavily because of the opengl and graphics tests.
You shouldn't run alot of hardware accelerated graphics applications on an apple tv. - thehouse, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Donations this month: $0
Bandwidth cost this month: $99999.99 - pabster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Not too bad. I remember scoring 60ish with an X2 rig running OS X.
A $299 Mac. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Is he using the hacked kernel which emulates SSE3 ?
Because if he is this is rather useless as a machine benchmark.
With the "Apple TV" os they've compiled against the SSE2 that processor can actually do which would make it no doubt a good deal faster at some stuff. - StatusQuoRules, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4go away
- quuxly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3OK, I'll try again. It's back up, and I am the author of Xbench.
- joshuakuhn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I like her specs o_O
- EGOvoruhk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sure. De-solder the RAM that's in there, and replace it
- edzieba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's not BGA? Awesome!
- SyberMile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1now we just need a way to add more ram i think this my be the next big media center (XBMC)
- jmaynardg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@jeff303:
A Sun3/60 has enough oomph! to serve html/css too. Christ. *Only* 256MB of RAM? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is the any way at all to add more physical memory?
- blangley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I need a setup where I can take content 'off' my computer, not harbor more photo's and movies as hard disk space is a growing issue (iTMS movies, Music, EyeTV shows). So in this circumstance a Mac Mini although more expensive is a better solution for people wanting the have a digital 'hub' not just a receiving devise.
- Eccles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Seems to me all most personal servers are expected to do is to read mail and distribute a few files. You could probably use a ReadyBoost-like approach with a USB flash drive to get reasonably good performance for many other things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Readyboost - Eccles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Mac Minis don't have particularly large hard drives. Wouldn't you just plug a 500GB+ USB drive into either?
- valentinom, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2enough specs, check out http://digg.com/apple/Apple_TV_Girl
- quuxly, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3It's back up.
- noctum17, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1The only great product Apple makes is the Ipod. Since every other post on digg is about Apple TV it can't be that good. Digg me down Apple lovers!
- garbs, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3This was on the front page not even 12 hours ago.
- englishganxta, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0Yeah umm...WTF is all that *****?
- fowleryo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1WHAT
- tpopro, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Yeah. I mean seriously?
- mrfishhat, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4Is it any surprise something twice the price would out perform it?
- dnields, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Ah, XBench... probably the most inaccurate and faulty benchmarker out there.
- rheaume, on 10/12/2007, -13/+2Seriously, I would love if filtering would work on RSS feeds, so I wouldnt have to see this
- paulmiller, on 10/12/2007, -32/+3I find it rather ironic that in your attempt to link the "actual article rather than the summary" you copy and pasted text from the Engadget writeup.
Here's the actual "summary," which properly credits its sources:
http://digg.com/apple/Apple_TV_benchmarked_not_a_supercomputer_in_disguise
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