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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26Buying memory and hard drives from Apple can be pricey. I always buy it from other vendors.
- Universal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24This should be an option for all of their Macs, instead of having to customize them via their online stores.
- PaulRay, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Well... Yes.
Yes they did. Why? - omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12You have to remember that Apple is a premium product. Dell is able to capture as much market share as it does because it has commoditized the PC to the lowest common denominator. Apple focuses on performance and design. So when Apple says its retail stores have been hugely successful, it doesn't mean that they are aiming to overtake Dell per se, but that they have seen consistent growth, profit, and increase in market share. In laptops, the most popular segment of the market, Apple now has a 12 percent market share. That's huge for Apple, even if Windows remains the dominant OS overall.
- MikeCerm, on 10/12/2007, -9/+17Apple Stores didn't already do this? What the hell did they used to do, sit there calling each other "geniuses" and browsing the internet?
- wesball, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@drksun
You make low market share sound like a bad thing... as if it suggests they are somehow inferior products.
Look at it this way... what percentage of Ferrarris or McLarens do you see on the road? - Wavey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Gee, thanks, little kiddies, for completely misinterpreting my intent (I wasn't trying to one-up anyone here or brag in any way), and for mocking my simple message of enthusiasm for the Mac Pro, and for daring to ask whether this sounds like a wise configuration.
I'll be sure to ask for your enlightened opinions on any other matters involving computers.
*****. - ajwinder, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9the geniuses deal mostly with repairs and diagnosis, and system migrations, not sales. So when your hard drive fails, you go talk to the "genuses". Otherwise, the regular sales associates could sell normal, pre-configured systems, or get you in for a built-to-order machine. I'm not sure, but I think they used to do memory upgrades in-store, and maybe hard drives in the towers. The big news behind this is that they do the graphics card upgrades as well, basically, even the in-depth hardware configurations can be changed.
If you've ever been to an Apple store, you'd know how much the geniuses actually help out. Any time I've been there, they've had people lined up for appointments hours in advance. These people don't have down time, at all. They've also been much help to me, my roommate dropped a cup on my powerbook's keyboard, I went to the store, being out of warrenty, and the genius just went in the back, grabbed some extra keys and the little scissor mechanism, and i was out the door in 15 minutes. No charge at all, just have to remember to set up your appointments before you get there.
as for the naysaying, i mean, gateway doesn't sell anything in their stores, and I'm sure the dell stores aren't going to be doing much in-store custom configuration. And you can probably upgrade the hard drives and memory in a best buy or comp usa, at an extra charge over the cost of the parts. So while you make it sound like the Apple stores really don't do much, they are doing more than the other brick-and-mortar stores. Thats why they've been hugely successful. - ndonohue, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@Universal,
You're right, customization for all macs is definately a good idea. Apple generally introduces things one at a time, and this is a step in the right direction. Maybe in the future we will even see iPod laser engraving at the stores. - aliguana, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7would be better if we could build our own, then just install the software on it. I would hardly call "how many drives do you want with that" customisation
- Codee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I never bother with Apple doing much of anything but giving me a high end base model.
Why? Well there are too many bargain expert retailer's that would give you Apple certified ram for 20 to 35% less than Apple. I kid you not. macsales.com is my favorite. Cheap and quick.
Apple wants to build it, because they are going to kill you on the ram. They always do. - SenatorPenguin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I also buy my memory and storage from other vendors, but when it comes to having the best memory from companies like Samsung and Crucial, Apple memory is not only convenient, but not much premium added on. Even though I can get a 1gig stick online for $90, top of the line premium memory that won't fail for another millenia of use is only $10 less than the Apple price ($190ish).
- vbsurfer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I found this: http://www.macsolutions.com/macpro66ddec.html
seems pretty good. Any other suggestions? - Sefirosu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Windows users, most of them are *****.
Go with a Logitech mouse, Mighty Mouse is expensive for what it is. - Flipswitch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Before now, memory was pretty much the only upgrade available along with airport/bluetooth kits, but other services offered include free software isntallation(it might seem stupid, but we open a ton of machines just to install office....yeah.) and most importantly, complimentary data transfer, which is a pretty big deal for your average user.
As for the mac pros, along with memory and storage, the range of video cards offered will be an option for upgrade, so every upgradeable field on the website is available in-store.
So you see, we do more than sit around and browse the web. (we listen to music too. haha) - BWhaler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Maybe you should mark your post as inaccurate.
They will also do drives, wireless, etc. - hesiod, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8That's awesome PaulRay!
You could browse over leaked AOL logs in their entirety WHILE editing multi-layered gigapixel satellite photos of Earth AND listening to a single MP3(FLAC if you're a real sadist) file containing every song ever recorded strung together!
And you could play Oblivion! Medium settings, of course. Let's not get carried away now, after all! - MicrowavedH2o, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5yes... but it makes the most sense for the Mac Pros-- they are towers are are made for easy upgrading/switching parts. An iMac on the other hand, you have to practically disassemble to add RAM from what I hear. But, the "geniuses" should still be able to do it. We will see if it happens.
- DocDEB, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"This unit had 23 applications open in 1:14s." I doubt that --- 1:14 seconds? One minute and fourteen seconds I would believe and is impressive.
- vbsurfer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Where would one buy cheaper Mac Pro ram other than from apple?
- SPLASTiK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.macsales.com/
Mac Sales is great for upgrades and highly reccomended. - nobogeys217, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1they used to do ram upgrades but no HD upgrades. this is pretty cool. They should do it for all of their computers.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow...will the guy at the "Genius bar" put in some overpriced , Apple-approved memory for me?
- theonlyvlad, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3One thing I kind of found when building computers, even using good, name brand hardware, is that sometimes certain ***** just won't work for whatever reason. Bad chip, bad ram, bad *something* and bam, less than desired performance.
My impression was, with most online orders, that the computer goes through some sort of testing phase after it's put together, to see if it performs ok. Do macs do something like this? And will macs ordered live in-house be able to get tested for performance? Or should I just assume that all hardware macs use is magically perfect? - DontSayFanboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yes, might as well stay on the internet where everyone is calm and polite.
- rspeed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@MicrowavedH2o
Yeah those two philips screws are a real bitch. At least they're captive so you won't lose them... hard to keep track of so many.
A MacBook or MacBook Pro has THREE screws to upgrade RAM! May as well not even try with so many screws.
*groan* - ashooner, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1two words:
ipod reset - PaulRay, on 10/12/2007, -13/+12Oh! Oh!! And I'm gonna build a quad core AMD 64 bit with 46gigs of RAM and 40 terrabytes of storage and direct fiber to the backbone then load it with FireFox, and iTunes and some kind of Photoshop and, and... and games... Lots of games!!
"How's that sound"? Like a wish list... So what? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Will they gift wrap it in a turtleneck sweater?
- bloqmon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2ajwinder, i'm going to hope for your sake that you lack a general sense of humor due to the hour at which you posted (close to 3 am est).
- matt.rubin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1..... uhh can i get an american flag painted on the side?
No because we think different and everyone needs the same box - DontSayFanboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Impressive, I guess. But not really when you consider that a demo unit with 3GB of memory probably had most of the required pages still cached in RAM since everyone has been opening and closing the same set of apps repeatedly without actually doing much work. It's not going to be at all typical of average use.
Anyway, are we supposed to be amazed when people keep touting that these machines are the fastest macs ever? How often do manufacturers release systems that are slower than the previous models? - FelixdaaHack, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I have no energy to ripp on Apple today [yyaaawwwnnnnnn]
- RandomGuySteve, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2"Look at it this way... what percentage of Ferrarris or McLarens do you see on the road?"
I see about a 50% percentage of Ferraris and McLarens on the road. The other 50% are in the shop for repairs since they aren't really made for day to day driving. - gandubhalla, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1When Blu-ray burners are added as an option I hope they give a really good model drive. This one sucks......
http://digg.com/apple/Pioneer_BDR_101A_Blu_ray_disc_burner - hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1That's still not a 100 GB of RAM...
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22all+about+the+pentiums - bking, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Marked inaccurate. Apple stores will only install ram and some software.
- kolop1, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2 That's funny I can build my own customized PC whenever I want. For less money. ;)
- drksun, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2@ajwinder
"That's why they've been hugely successful."
ahh? whats their market share again?
"Apple is in ninth place with a 2.4 percent market share.
In comparison, computer maker Dell is in first place in U.S. market share with 26 percent and worldwide with 14.3 percent. " - Splitt3rxx, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1I prefer to do the upgrades myself, next time I will build teh PC myself, guess you can;t do that with a ***** mac. just wait till it breaks in 2 years and buy a new one.
- 8^)Jung, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2www.macsales.com Has great prices on hardware and there are videos on their site on how to upgrade the computers yourself.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3Upgrade a Mac? What? What?!
/2001 - Wavey, on 10/12/2007, -20/+9I really want to get one of these.
I'm thinking this config:
2.66 Ghz system
4 GB RAM (in 4 X 1GB configuration, but not Apple brand; too expensive)
250 GB SATA HD (I have two more 120GB drives from my PC that I can throw in there too)
ATI X1900 video card (gotta have my games)
Apple keyboard
Logitech or Microsoft mouse (I'm not sure I like Apple's Mighty Mouse)
Dell 23" LCD monitor
And stuff like: Final Cut Express, PhotoShop CS2, Logic, Aperture, and Parallels. Plus XP or Vista with Boot Camp for when I want to run Windows natively.
How's that sound? I think I'm gonna love this rig. - RandomGuySteve, on 10/12/2007, -16/+1Mac users can't handle customization.
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