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- SirChasm, on 11/24/2008, -6/+66Not a fan of Apple by any means, but I hope this suit is defeated.
- doiveo, on 11/24/2008, -1/+47IP law needs to be gutted. Pointless, frivolous, or predatory suits like this add zero value to society.
- Vadi0, on 11/24/2008, -2/+42I'm not a Mac user, nor an owner of an iPhone.
But patent trolls ftl... - slappy83, on 11/24/2008, -2/+33You should be required to show a working model of a concept in order to patent it. This ***** is getting out of hand.
- paloooz, on 11/25/2008, -0/+28***** patent trolls.
- ehudokai, on 11/24/2008, -5/+31The article mentions the Android browser, but it doesn't mention Opera Mini which functions the same way too. Seriously, why does our government have it head in the sand?
- franklymister, on 11/24/2008, -5/+22The patent system exists to allow people or companies to safely invest in research and development.
If you use the patent system as a lottery, you're doing it wrong.
If you look at their patent: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PT ... it's clear that this is a very broad patent, written specifically to cash in on lawsuits, and not the result of a massive investment in either research or development (particularly since nothing was developed).
They deserve some kind of compensation for having put the thought into this design - I suggest that they be allowed to create a product based on this patent and sell it in the marketplace, and keep whatever profits they can make. What they don't deserve is a lotto payday from Apple, Google, Microsoft, Opera, Mozilla, or anyone else. - hatgreeting, on 11/25/2008, -2/+18*sigh* another patent troll trying to get rich quick...
THANKS FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY! - BenSerwa, on 11/25/2008, -2/+17***** the RIAA, the MPAA, and patent law.
- durandalreborn, on 11/25/2008, -1/+15This is ridiculous. Fix the patent system.
- mwalker05, on 11/25/2008, -2/+10the guy is a ***** real estate agent. do you think he ever had any intention of developing this idea? of course not. even in 1999 this was an obvious idea. this would have been like filing a patent for a computer that fits in your pocket or some other obvious piece of technology that is bound to be developed. i dont even see how you can call this IP since the programming language was designed to allow this kind of manipulation. the patent is so broad and general that of course it was only a matter of time before technology caught up with software design.
frankly i see no value in giving this idiot a ton of money for something he did not develope. do you think its a coincidence he went after apple first when they are the most popular and most profitable? - banin1, on 11/25/2008, -1/+9patent trolls should be thrown into a tank full of sharks as punishment for being so ridiculously uninventive....
- GrooTheWanderer, on 11/25/2008, -2/+10Good method of getting rich - patenting vague concepts and suing anyone who uses them.
I think I'll patent it and sue EMG Technology. - londubh, on 11/25/2008, -3/+10Clearly a patent troll. Software patents are just ***** evil. They should have never been granted in the first place.
- DeathJux, on 11/25/2008, -0/+6You're buried because you're an idiot.
- r3zonance, on 11/25/2008, -1/+6This patent should be dropped as an "obvious" patent. As the progression of any SOFTWARE from desktop to a mobile platform has been a logical, natural (and therefor obvious) step since the late 90s.
- misterjangles, on 11/25/2008, -1/+6Patents should not be enforceable if the owner hasn't produced an actual product within a reasonable amount of time - at least in prototype form. that would get rid of a lot of patent trolls but still offer protection for inventors who are actually creating things. ***** patent trolls.
- Zippo, on 11/25/2008, -0/+5If you didn't actually make your damn patent, then sit the ***** down and shut up.
There should be a law stating you can only make a patent after you've actually made the device. - cr12345, on 11/25/2008, -0/+4... and their scumbag lawyers.
- Shaidow, on 11/25/2008, -0/+3Why do they let people patent the obvious and most rediculous things!
This crap always starts in America where it would seem that the American Dream is to either get rich at the expense of all others or to simply own a patent and get rich doing nothing but filing law suits.
...the answer, so lawyers and the rich can continue to get rich making money of the hardworking companies that make great products for their customers. - r3zonance, on 11/25/2008, -1/+4"The original filing was filed with the USPTO in 1999"
Actually, no it wasn't that was a completely separate but "RELATED" (as the document suggests) patent. This patent (7441196) was filed on March 13, 2006.
I've seen and used browsers that did some kind of re-formatting or zooming/manipulating before 2006. Pocket IE re-formats pages.
I think the fact that it will affect IE (which is also prior art in this case) will get it thrown out as MS would throw money at this to see the patent application overturned, otherwise they will owe another company a ton of money in the long run, and potential have to pay a licence for the idea. - inactive, on 11/25/2008, -0/+3You better throw your thinking a lot further out than that. That ***** is played and recorded already. Probably 50 patents already in what you described above.
- portwojc, on 11/25/2008, -0/+3Claim number one (you can read it I'll make it short). Generate a sister site. Then you have to ask. Can I browse to that sister site generated from another web browser/device? If not then that claim isn't applicable because it says site and a site can be accessed from elsewhere. Unlike generating an individual page. Oops say what you really mean not what you think its called. You're welcome Apple if you hadn't already figured that one out.
- Maggette, on 11/25/2008, -0/+3I'm not even a big Apple fan, but people who bring lawsuits like this are the scum of the earth.
- pfunked, on 11/25/2008, -0/+3Doesn't the Bilski Decision nullify patents like these?
- thall, on 11/25/2008, -2/+5locojones,
if two people come up with the same idea independently, and one just runs to the patent office while the other one actually turns it into a product, I'd say the producer should benefit. - sancho, on 11/25/2008, -0/+3r3zonance:
You post well-written and well-thought out posts. I thought you'd like to know that the phrase isn't "to all intense and purposes", it's "to all intents and purposes."
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_the_saying_'all_inten ... - clickmyface, on 11/25/2008, -3/+5I WOULD FEEL SO ANGRY LOCOJONES, I WOULD FEEL SO ANGRY. OH GOSH I WOULD JUST FEEL SO ANGRY.
- HonoredMule, on 11/25/2008, -1/+3I'm just curious to know what kind of ***** idiot gets a self-righteous sense of entitlement from being the first person to provide a technically obvious and straightforward implementation of simple ideas, or worse, basic evolution of existing ideas or systems.
If your contributions had any value, you could sell them. Patent litigation is practically an admission that you are either trying to bully around competitors to protect your market share, or for smaller players, that you don't actually have anything of value to sell to consumers or even other innovators. - inactive, on 11/25/2008, -0/+2I have a patent on ***** posts.
That will be $40 please. - DeathJux, on 11/25/2008, -0/+2I love these spambots, because the people behind them have no ***** clue how Digg works or what demographic it is.
Way to go, douchebags. - mwalker05, on 11/25/2008, -0/+2im going to file a patent tomorrow for a handheld device that has built in high speed internet, cellphone, media playback, with a touchscreen and a built in projector. 3 years from now when LG or Samsung makes one, i will sue the snot out of them.
- inactive, on 11/25/2008, -2/+4rageeeeeeeeeeeeee for aol.com
I hate apple but i hope they win because patents like this are ***** stupid and should never have been granted.
Its like granting a patent for the wheel. - inactive, on 11/25/2008, -1/+3Most governments do mate..
Up each others ass or in a bucket of sand...
Never do they get out and take a look to see what is going on, and if they do they have paid advisors telling them what it is they are looking at.
Thats how governments work... - Noxxten, on 11/25/2008, -0/+2Actually whats hes saying is for example:
if the fastest recorded speed of a cellphone's "high-speed" internet is 3mb/s. He will file a patent for one that can do 4mb/s. Since this device will obviously be invented in the future, he will be able to sue for his "rights" he likes to think he has.
Not that Shaidow is such a bigot minded person, but hes just trying to give a general idea. - mousky, on 11/25/2008, -1/+3"In May 1999, Bell Mobility launched Mobile Browser, making it the first
PCS company in North America to put an Internet Browser into the PCS handset.
Today, Mobile Browser users can access and view more than 40 Internet sites
that have been specially-adapted for small display screens. Bell Mobility's
Mobile Browser service is available on the NeoPoint 1000, Qualcomm's QCP-
2700F, QCP-2700 and QCP-2760, Samsung's SCH-3530, and Motorola's Digital
StarTAC."
"Opera Mobile is a web browser for smartphones and personal digital assistants (PDAs) developed by the Opera Software company. The first version of Opera Mobile was released in 2000 for the Psion Series 7 and netBook." - inactive, on 11/25/2008, -1/+3I should follow the trend then mwalker. I will sit down over the next 4 years and invent 1001 ways to take a dump, patent them all and whoever invents anything like a toilet with a lid that does something I will sue the bejesus out of them.
Then I can take over the world while you all pay me a poop tax... - inactive, on 11/25/2008, -1/+3What has this to do with any government?
- Noxxten, on 11/25/2008, -0/+2And thanks to half-wit ***** like these, the tech industry is ever more complicated. Thanks patent-sitters, thanks. =|
- thijzer, on 11/25/2008, -0/+2They should give these businesses a name like patent farming. Which means patents that are created based upon good ideas only for the purpose of farming profits from other businesses.
- wissler, on 11/25/2008, -1/+2How do you fix a system that lets one man steal from another because the second man happened to have thought of something similar to the first?
- arma, on 11/25/2008, -0/+1SLAP SLAP SLAP!
- HonoredMule, on 11/25/2008, -0/+1Nothing highlights this so much as the recent article that mentioned Obama would probably have to give up his blackberry, and discussed the various communication methods on which he currently relied to stay connected to friends, family, and the world--methods that would be cut off to him as president.
Although it wasn't overtly focusing on this impression, it practically sounded like Obama was to be a puppet for his advisers, and as if the whole system was designed to implement mandatory blind leadership. - metaliq, on 11/25/2008, -1/+2huh?
RTFA. - serif69, on 11/25/2008, -3/+4Another day, another useless lawsuit against Apple. I remember the good ol' days when people invented things for the spirit of ingenuity. Then sued IBM.
- locojones, on 11/26/2008, -0/+1You're mistaken. The purpose of patent law is to incentivize the disclosure of inventions that would otherwise be kept secret or only used as trade secrets. That incentive is to reward the inventor exactly for having a good idea.
- ianfranklin1, on 11/26/2008, -0/+1Oh, your mean like the patents where you pinch your fingers together elements shrink or when you push your finger across a screen its like turning a page? Apple deserves this.
- HonoredMule, on 11/25/2008, -1/+2Uh, patent law and the granting of patents for well-known prior art?
- Drizzit, on 11/25/2008, -1/+2Hence patents need to be treated like trademarks. Develop them or defend them, but do not wait until a popular product appears x years later and sue them. Opera Mini has been out for a long time, mobile IE even longer.
Once again patent trolls waste their money and a lawyer gets rich, but taxpayers get shafted with the bill to pay the judges and court people to deal with this. -
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