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Apple Releases New MacBooks

macrumors.com — As predicted, Apple released revised MacBooks today.Apple(R) today updated its MacBook(R) consumer notebooks with faster Intel Core 2 Duo processors, 1GB of memory and larger hard drives in every model. The MacBook is just one-inch thin and features built-in 802.11n wireless networking for up to fiv...

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  • trylleklovn, on 10/11/2007, -80/+26Happy birthday MacBook.
    • firepowered, on 10/11/2007, -10/+173Nothing major..... just bumping up the specs to stay competitive.
      do'h. wheres teh MBPs!!!
    • gallardo, on 10/11/2007, -115/+8DUPE: http://digg.com/apple/Apple_updates_MacBook_line_with_faster_chips_more_memory
    • EBFoxbat, on 10/11/2007, -14/+79I'm thinking there's some Leopard motivation behind having more RAM standard. We know how much OS X eats RAM. Guess nothing is changing. Odd the homepage and product specs have updated but not the store.

      I was really hoping to buy something today. There's hardly a performance gain. I have a Black Macbook with 2 Gigs. What we need is a way to allocate more RAM to video RAM.
    • Thud, on 10/11/2007, -19/+188What? Still no updates to the Mac Mini?

      Well slap my ass and call me Susan.
    • dignick, on 10/11/2007, -5/+41The only real difference now between mb and mbp is screen size and graphics card. Hell, it even has a 8x superdrive compared to the 6x in the mbp, and wireless n enabled by default.

      I have my fingers crossed very tightly for a mbp update at or around wwdc.
    • EBFoxbat, on 10/11/2007, -31/+12If you say so.... Susan.
    • bmeckel, on 10/11/2007, -28/+271darn, my macbook, which used to be the fastest and most expensive, is now the cheapest, and least expensive. Worst. Day. Ever
    • retral, on 10/11/2007, -11/+37About time macbooks are competitive again.

      I wonder if this time around they'll offer the black macbook without making the color change cost some 100+ dollars.
    • GawtMilk, on 10/11/2007, -3/+131The cheapest *AND* the least expensive?

      Well it looks like a deal to me! What's the catch?
    • PAJK, on 10/11/2007, -8/+22I wonder what the UK prices are? If the US price is $1099 (£550), surely the UK price cannot still be £750? That's a £200 ($400) difference.

      EDIT: http://www.apple.com/uk/macbook/macbook.html

      Yep, £750. I'm confused. I may as well just buy from the US store...
    • PAJK, on 10/11/2007, -10/+5^^ Oops, it looks like they haven't updated the UK Macbook page. They have for the US one, though.
    • PAJK, on 10/11/2007, -8/+12Ooh, newer price for the lowend one: http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&mco=520F94DC&node=home/macbook/macbook

      £700. Very good. Will get one. :D
    • RealityCheque, on 10/11/2007, -3/+34Educational pricing for the entry level Macbook is now $999; that is fifty dollars cheaper than it used to be.
    • itsme92, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18@retral

      A quick trip to the online Apple Store shows that you can get a white Macbook with the black one's specs for $125 less than the black one. Last rev it was a $50 difference, rev before it was a $150 difference.

      Damn. they made the price difference even more than before. Not that it matters to me, as I am typing this on a now-outdated whitebook, because that's what I prefer, it just seems wrong that they charge so much for a color.
    • SeBBBe, on 10/11/2007, -2/+67The only thing that needed a bump was the graphics chip. It didnt get one.
    • calebdesu, on 10/11/2007, -7/+13I just bought mine a few weeks ago... I wish they would give some advance notice. I'm not too pissed, but a poor student like me could have put the $200 saved to good use :( (I bought the 2ghz model for $1299)

      Oh well, I still love it.
    • Ireland, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15"I just bought mine a few weeks ago... I wish they would give some advance notice."
      I wouldn't hesitate to call them, I got my way with that before.
    • poxonyou, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10Exactly what SeBBBE said. They are still using Intel 950 integrated graphics. This was one of the main reasons I finally decided against getting a MacBook and got a VAIO (13.3" with an nVidia). I would have loved to dual boot fully functional Vista and OS X.
    • inkswamp, on 10/11/2007, -5/+33@ebfoxbat: "We know how much OS X eats RAM. Guess nothing is changing."

      I see people make these kinds of comments all the time about OS X being a resource hog and yet I see no evidence for it. I have Tiger running on a 600MHz iBook G3 with 384MB of RAM and it works fine. It's no speed demon, but there are no bottlenecks or weird lock ups and in general, I can get work done (can even VPN in to work and do things over remote desktop connections without any issue.) It runs pretty smoothly overall. I don't understand the complaint that OS X eats RAM. It really doesn't.
    • carve, on 10/11/2007, -11/+2How disappointing for me. I was really hoping for a sub 12" ultra mobile PC. Mac: if you're listening, make this...

      Sub 1.75 pounds including power supply
      At least 4 hour battery life under "typical" use (e.g. web surfing) (probably means LED backlight, LiPo batteries)
      Regular QWERTY keyboard (folding?)
      Semi ruggedized
      (Panasonic makes a computer with similar specs already- better keep up)

      For major travel junkies, it'd be cool if it somehow integrated in two external docking stations that could flushly accombodate TWO of the following add-ons simultaneoulsy...

      *DVD recorder to back up my photos on (going on a round the world trip)
      *iPod
      *GPS receiver that can boot the whole computer into a near-instant-on low-power (e.g. 20 hour battery life) GPS navigator with WORLD WIDE maps pre loaded
      *additional battery

      These add ons must be external (no bays taking up empty space when you want to go light) and flushly mounted (no wires)

    • archer75, on 10/11/2007, -7/+8"I see people make these kinds of comments all the time about OS X being a resource hog and yet I see no evidence for it. I have Tiger running on a 600MHz iBook G3 with 384MB of RAM and it works fine. It's no speed demon, but there are no bottlenecks or weird lock ups and in general, I can get work done (can even VPN in to work and do things over remote desktop connections without any issue.) It runs pretty smoothly overall. I don't understand the complaint that OS X eats RAM. It really doesn't."

      I guess it's all how you interrupt it. Your system would be too painful for me to use. And I have run OSX on a core duo mac mini with 512mb of ram which is significantly faster than yours and it was painful. iphoto was an absolute dog.
    • Justin6512, on 10/11/2007, -7/+6Maybe Kevin will still give his away now.


      http://youtube.com/watch?v=MBeYeiZFNqg
    • mikesbaker, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4that wasn't a story that was a sentence and an advertisement.
    • ncaauwe, on 10/11/2007, -6/+21"I have run OSX on a core duo mac mini with 512mb of ram which is significantly faster than yours and it was painful. iphoto was an absolute dog."

      Well that's iPhoto, not the operating system. I've seen Vista eat up several gig of ram while sitting there and doing absolutely nothing. And I've also seen it not have the ability to run Premiere and watch an AVI at the same time, whereas on my MacBook Pro with the stock 2GB of ram, I'll run Final Cut Pro, Adobe After Effects under Rosetta, Shake 4.1, plus iTunes, Adium, and Safari on a second monitor and I tend to forget what's all running unless I'm doing a Shake render, which maxes out everything...which I want, because I want the fastest render possible.
    • inkswamp, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12> Well that's iPhoto, not the operating system.

      Agreed. iPhoto is a good program but it can be a slug at times and it's not accurate to blame that on the OS. No idea why people are digging you down for pointing it out.
    • kaytrio, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2@bmeckel (#c6691371): Oh now there are plenty of people who have had worse days...
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NSzpF078SY
    • victorc26, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2@ncaauwe

      You do know that's SuperFetch that's using up most of the system's RAM, right? And Premier is known to not be fully Vista compatible, Leo Laporte himself said he hates the fact that Adobe passes Premier as Vista compatible, when in fact, it isn't fully optimized.
    • LloydDobbler, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3...so remind me again the benefits to buying a MBP anymore?

      I mean, sheesh, as a designer, I the bigger screen is a MUST...plus the backlit keyboard is nice, and Firewire 800 is a good thing...but for $600 bucks more?!?! How the heck can I rationalize that???

      COME ON, Apple!! Give us a new MBP, already!!!!!!
    • definiteform, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2Why can't there be a black Macbook Pro?
    • Haphazardness, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3Great, now I'm a loser.. I've only got a 1.83. BTW, I wonder if they fixed the loud fan noise when doing processor intensive stuff.
    • RealHyperX, on 10/11/2007, -9/+4Macbooks suck on planes. Can't use them. Make smaller MacBook.. like my Lenovo x60
    • RareAir23, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1Greener Apple my ass. What about the LED technology?
    • macmcrae, on 10/11/2007, -9/+2@ inkswamp "iphoto is a good program"
      That is double speak for iphoto is giant diseased
      turd of an application that is as useless as gw bush.

      BTW I wonder if the fixed the magic expanding battery feature?
    • astrosmash, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1> We know how much OS X eats RAM. Guess nothing is changing

      It is true that your typical Cocoa/Objective-C application uses more RAM than a typical C/C++ application, but memory usage in OS X is quite reasonable. Finder, a C++ application, hardly uses any RAM.

      OS X is bad compared to Win2000, it's on par when compared to XP, and it's down right svelte when compared to Vista and .NET.
    • aristotle0dude, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2@PAJK: The UK price includes 17.5 percent VAT while the US price is the pretax price the USD price of 1099 works out to 553.61 GBP. Add 8% for sales tax and you get 597.90 GBP. If you were to add 17.5% VAT to the direct US price, you would get 650.49 GBP.

      The official price with VAT on the UK site is 700 GBP. Given that my calculations are based on online rates which will differ from the rates Apple would get when moving their money between markets, rates tend to fluctuate between the time they set the prices to now and that it does not include potentially higher tariffs, I'd say the 50GBP difference is really nothing at all.
  • susmnation, on 10/11/2007, -31/+8not even worth updating...
    • longofest, on 10/11/2007, -5/+35Is it as big of an update as some may have wanted? Probably not. But getting a faster processor and 1 GB of RAM standard (which is really important with the integrated graphics) makes for a nice refresher in my opinion, not to mention larger hard drives.
    • psilanthropist, on 10/11/2007, -9/+31until i get a graphics card option, mavbooks are off the list
    • mozzep, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9i doubt macbooks will ever have video cards. they need something more significant besides screen size to differentiate the models.
    • poxonyou, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5The power of the graphics card would be the difference. Consumer level Apple laptops had normal graphics cards until recently when they switched to the cheaper and less power hungry Intel integrated graphics, just as many other companies did. The downside, of course, is that the integrated graphics is *****. I don't mind paying an extra $70 for a nice card, as I did when I bought my VAIO Type C (Intel 950 version was $70 less).
    • macmcrae, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1$70 Extra? Bwahahah.
      Try $500 and for an x1600.
      Remember it is apple we are talking about.
    • zachlutz, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2I'm really surprised that Apple updated to the Santa Rosa platform and yet opted to keep the old generation Intel GMA 950. The new X3100 is leaps and bounds better. I don't see the rationale.
    • selectodude, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6zachlutz: it's not Santa Rosa.
    • nayr, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2zachlutz: they want to keep it cool and save the battery. Plus, most non-geeks won't notice the difference, and peopl won't do any gaming on their laptop anyway. Apple probably wants to have the Macbook Pro as their high-end graphics laptop, and the Mac Pro as the gaming machine.
  • mgkwho, on 10/11/2007, -40/+19It's better than the MacPro update a while back, and is the only real computer refresh from Apple in 6 months.

    Since mid November, Apple has released Airport Extreme, colored shuffles, TV, and a new 8-core chip option for the MacPro. While many people consider this a minimal update, it is an update nonetheless after 6 months of "nothing" [computer wise].

    -=|Mgkwho
    • ricksite, on 10/11/2007, -9/+38Yeah, that is redundant to have the exact same name.

      -ricksite1
    • unloud, on 10/11/2007, -11/+36ricksite, I refuse to play along with that game again

      -unloud
    • Roger, on 10/11/2007, -12/+31But that -=| thing is kinda cool.

      -=|roger
    • Ireland, on 10/11/2007, -18/+2Will you guys just grow up!!!

      -=|Zorro
    • Amplix, on 10/11/2007, -16/+3Dear Digg,
      Please never release a feature that will automatically insert a signature after each comment.

      -Amplix
    • martalli, on 10/11/2007, -14/+2Come on, y'all should have better .sigs than that!

      -=|John Hancock
    • stvspl, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9This got old a long time ago.

      -=|Shut the ***** Up
  • ondrasoukup, on 10/11/2007, -57/+8All I can say is "***** you Apple" :)))
    Now that wasn't even worth closing the store down - and we all know you can update it without all the ceremony :P
  • recede, on 10/11/2007, -34/+7no wonder they dropped the 'computer' from the apple company name. is this really the best they can do for us ? same old stuff - just a bit upgraded, come on apple - where are your dynamic new designs and innovations ?
    • clyde2801, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5Obviously, you weren't an Apple fan during the powerpc era...
    • Me1000, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Perhaps you should tell us what kind of computer you want to see?
      Processor upgrades are intel, not apple!
  • allaboutdatiki, on 10/11/2007, -5/+38Incremental update, yeah, but I'm glad I waited a few weeks before plunking down my cash.
    • schnuck, on 10/11/2007, -10/+1what a waste of emotions... no MPs. now the wait starts over - WWDC07

      but strangely the apple store went down again. it's either the traffic or they...
    • gumby05, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Yeah I ordered mine yesterday.
      They're upgrading it for me though.
  • FierceGrape, on 10/11/2007, -18/+28Why is this story submitted 20 times. What the ***** is wrong with the people that use this website that they dont see that its already there.
    • wordmunger, on 10/11/2007, -5/+31My guess is that 20 people submitted simultaneously. Everyone was hitting refresh at Macrumors and then rushing to post. No one had finalized the post so they all went through.
    • abid786, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6That is what happened to me.
    • macmcrae, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2Mac zealots are the Scientologists of the computer world.
      They are barking mad. Have some pitty.
  • ementis, on 10/11/2007, -12/+108Still no dedicated graphics card :(
    • lgivens, on 10/11/2007, -23/+16Yes, it's called a MacBook Pro.
    • sv650touring, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10I think it will be that way untill Apple can do more to differentiate the MB from the MBP. Otherwise, what do you get for the extra money?

      Bigger screen - and the bigger form factor that brings
      FW800 - not a big percentage of users care
      card slot - more useful than FW800, but still not many people want to use this either
      better looks - IMO, but not everyones
      some small spec increases, and nice touches like the lighted keyboard

      The graphics card is the big difference since with OSX or Vista, you are talking about something that will improve speed and responsiveness all the time.

      Macs can be a hard sell to people who look mainly at specs/performance. MacBook Pros are the extreme end of that problem, and without the grpahics card, I think 80% of them would be sold (over the MB) on screen size alone.
    • CatalystDM, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Not to mention most people consider the MBP a step down in keyboard quality.
    • EtherGnat, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3"I think it will be that way untill Apple can do more to differentiate the MB from the MBP. Otherwise, what do you get for the extra money?"

      That's obviously why Apple does it, but why do Apple consumers put up with it? If they can't sell the MacBook Pros without feature extortion, then they're too expensive. They do the same thing with their desktop line, and while I like OS X and love Mac hardware it's one of the things that drives me absolutely batty about Apple and prevents me from buying more of their products.
    • bardamuclichy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3This is the only reason why I havn't purchased a MacBook. Intel 950? Barf!

      MBP? No thanks, I know several people who have them and are selling them as we speak... ***** LCD screens compared to the older G4 Powerbooks.
    • macmcrae, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1Take it easy on the mac zealots. Remember, they don't know the difference. If they actually understood how crumby a deal it was, they wouldn't have bought a macbook either.
  • TheDude01, on 10/11/2007, -18/+2It was perfectly obvious that there will be only a slight bump in the specs. Any new stuff that would be ready by now will be shown on the WWDC next month. And the fact, that MacBook's were updated today means that there will be no MacBook update till Leopard comes out, so current specs will be enough to run the new OS X. Yey!

    And BTW, plz do not mix MacPro and MacBook Pro. Those are to completly diffrent computers!
  • Waune, on 10/11/2007, -16/+3Am still waiting for that 12inch MacBook Pro
    • EBFoxbat, on 10/11/2007, -9/+7Never gonna happen. Not enough room for all that hardware inside an ity-bity case.
    • Zippo, on 10/11/2007, -17/+6The MacBook Pro is already incredibly thin compared to most similarly-powered laptops. Everytime I look at my father's laptop (Dell, Core Duo, dedicated graphics card too) I can't help but think how huge it is. Hell, one of my friends has a Celeron laptop with integrated graphics and that's nearly twice the size of my MBP.

      To try and put a MBP in a 12" case, you'd have to make some serious sacrifices to power. Not to mention the problems it might have with heat. The 15" MBP is toasty enough as is.

      Besides, the MacBook Pro is named for it's target audience... Professionals. A professional needs at least a 15" monitor.
    • NightStryke, on 10/11/2007, -2/+35"A professional needs at least a 15" monitor."

      There are a lot of different 'professionals' out there. Some need portability over screen size.
    • Gurami, on 10/11/2007, -8/+8@Zippo - "Besides, the MacBook Pro is named for it's target audience... Professionals. A professional needs at least a 15" monitor."

      Uh. A professional what? Most professionals I know check their email, play TextTwist, and read the Onion. And if you're worth your salt, you shouldn't be using your laptop screen at all. Get a big external display.

      The only reason the MacBook Pro is named so is that Apple wants to differentiate their products and charge more for some, and a name helps do that.
    • allenb, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2"And if you're worth your salt, you shouldn't be using your laptop screen at all. Get a big external display."

      While we're at it, let's throw in an external keyboard and mouse.

      Laptop schmaptop.
    • osusilas, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2It's called the iPhone.
    • sv650touring, on 10/11/2007, -9/+2ditch the built-in optical drive! I can't be the only personal that hates discs. They're bad enough cluttering my desk - but when I'm mobile, I have all my stuff already installed on the hdd
    • rrossen, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3I'll probably get dugg way deep down for this but,

      As an actionscript programmer/scripter/whatever i have a 12" ibook G4, yea its way too slow but big enough =) i can work in the train en basically pull it out anywhere due to its size.

      Though, with Eclipse being the IDE for actionscript 3 i need a bigger screen, i must admit :) or at least a higher resolution.
    • mozzep, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6have you guys ever seen the 12 inch powerbook?.. http://www.wap.org/journal/jan03/powerbookg500.jpg
    • macmcrae, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1"And if you're worth your salt, you shouldn't be using your laptop screen at all. Get a big external display."

      I don't think jet blue has room for me to plug in my 20 inch samsung monitor. But it might happen.
  • trylleklovn, on 10/11/2007, -10/+17Well the MacBook is close to not usable with less than 1GB of ram anyway.
    • ExSlashdotter, on 10/11/2007, -5/+19Thats my experience too. We issue macbooks as standard equipment at our office, and 512MB with MS Office under Rosetta was just not fun. 1GB is just where it really needed to be. And god help our marketing dept with intel macs and adobe cs2 (until a few days ago)...

      At least now I wont have to be buying RAM by the buckets to add to each new machine.

      Now, :::rolling die::: come on! daddy needs a new intel native ms office!!
    • ElitistSnob, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1Agreed. I purchased the entry level MB just a few weeks ago and I paid an extra $75 to bump the RAM to 1GB. What pisses me off is that Apple now offers standard for what I paid EXTRA, in a period of just a few short weeks. *Sigh* That's life I suppose, but right now I feel Apple owes me $75.
    • macmcrae, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2Agreed. It is a mac mini with an lcd screen. Too slow for most stuff. And way too pricey.
    • trylleklovn, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2"Agreed. It is a mac mini with an lcd screen. Too slow for most stuff. And way too pricey."

      I wouldn't say too slow for most stuff. It is certainly way faster than my pals PowerBook 12" which he bought about a year before I bought my MacBook.
  • Amelios, on 10/11/2007, -13/+5HAY GUYZ CUT THEM SOME SLACK THEIR WORKING ON THE IPHONE OK *rolleyes*

    But seriously... What happened to exciting updates? Lately it's been tiny incremental updates, delays, or no updates at all.
  • bdxphoenix, on 10/11/2007, -6/+20D'oh, I knew I shouldn't have ordered a new MacBook Sunday night. Ah well, maybe I can call and get the newer model....
    • crammaz, on 10/11/2007, -2/+34Yeah you can... Apple has a two week grace period to change models if a newer model is released.

      Lucky bastard
    • bdxphoenix, on 10/11/2007, -3/+65Thanks crammaz!

      I know I'm getting dugg down, but for those who care Apple sent an e-mail saying they would automatically upgrade at no cost since it hadn't shipped yet.

      I'm starting to like this company.
    • trylleklovn, on 10/11/2007, -5/+31"I'm starting to like this company."

      Fanboy!

      *pets his macbook
    • tapezor, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Thats new to me, if you bought it at a store, and have opened it, they will charge you that restocking fee to return it. I guess if it is unopened / hasn't been shipped you are able to get the upgrade for free if its within two weeks of purchase. If you have opened it, you will have to pay the restocking fee (unless you find a flaw in it).
    • ElectroBot, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Unless I'm wrong they (Apple) also bumped up the DVD+-R burn speed from 6x to 8x, the DVD+R DL speed from 2.4x to 4x, BUT decreased the CD-RW burn speed from 16x to 10x (I have high speed CD-RW - annoyed me burning CD-RWs at 4x).

      I've got a C2D 2.0GHz 1GB RAM 80GB Superdrive MacBook so there is no point for me to upgrade. The 160MHz (x dual core), and 40GB extra aren't worth it especially since knowing Microsoft, Windows XP will probably have to be reactivated. I'm waiting till the next revision which will probably bring 2.33GHz or 2.40GHz C2D chips with Santa Rosa (yay better graphics), throw in a 160GB-200GB hd, 2GB RAM, faster DVD burning, and maybe other small extras (WiMax, etc.)
  • cyrax83, on 10/11/2007, -123/+7Still no DVD burner haha what a joke. Thats pathetic. Laptops half the price of the macbook come with a dvd burner. Apple still thinks they can sell hardware at 2003 specs
    • zzyzy, on 10/11/2007, -6/+50What's a SuperDrive, then?
    • MAdaXe42, on 10/11/2007, -37/+11Confusing marketing speak.
    • mbradbury, on 10/11/2007, -2/+518x slot-loading SuperDrive (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)

      * Writes DVD+R DL (double layer) discs at up to 4x speed
      * Writes DVD-R and DVD+R discs at up to 8x speed
      * Writes DVD-RW and DVD+RW discs at up to 4x speed
      * Reads DVDs at up to 8x speed
      * Writes CD-R discs at up to 24x speed
      * Writes CD-RW discs at up to 10x speed
      * Reads CDs at up to 24x speed
    • jholland, on 10/11/2007, -29/+1A drive that's super duper fast?
    • rages4calm, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15@cyrax
      Dead brain cells??
    • rebelyell2k5, on 10/11/2007, -6/+42Dude. You are the idiot of the day. Congrats.
    • jjk5, on 10/11/2007, -6/+19The base model still comes with a combo drive. I think that's what he's referring to.
    • Quix, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1..edit..

    • clyde2801, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2To zzyzy:

      It can leap over other DVD burners in a single bound....
    • rdoger6424, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2I'm not digging you down because you're anti-mac, I'm digging you down because you're MAKING ***** UP!
  • jdee, on 10/11/2007, -19/+7buried as lame....

    small updates making it to the home page **sigh**

    where is my new macbook pro. COME ON Apple
    • rebelyell2k5, on 10/11/2007, -6/+12Dude. chill. This may be minor, but it is news. Don't denounce it because you wanted it to be something else.
  • rakesh2141, on 10/11/2007, -9/+12Darn... This sucks..
    i ordered a macbook
    2GB ram, 2.0 GHZ core Duo, 120 GB harddisk
    on saturday...

    darn.. now they are giving a better processor (probably for the same cost...)

    that sucks..
    • crammaz, on 10/11/2007, -3/+44Apple has a two week grace period, you can still upgrade.
    • johnhummel, on 10/11/2007, -3/+28They have a 2 week "send it back if we issue new macbooks" policy.

      GIve them a call, and they should be able to get you hooked up.
    • hypercrypt, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1Call Apple, you should have a grace period to get the new model
    • dirtyfratboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Unfortunately, it's not a two week grace period. I ordered on May 4th and I just called in. They declined to send out an upgrade, because my Macbook was customized. Although, I did get a $50 credit.
      If your order hasn't shipped yet, you'll prolly get the upgrade.
    • kamilX, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2just call apple and tell them that you want the upgraded model, they'll be more than happy to accomodate i'm sure
    • imacmatt09, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I am ordering a macbook this week. so glad a didnt do it a few weeks ago.


      I was hoping for an upgrade anyways yay apple.
  • quimper, on 10/11/2007, -7/+10Thank God! For a moment there I thought I was going to have to buy a T61. Thank You Apple for taking baby steps in your product development because I don't think I could handle a backlit led or a solid state drive>
  • Pharoah6905, on 10/11/2007, -14/+2This makes total sense seeing as how i JUST bought my first Macbook on Sunday...grr!
    What do you think? is it worth the restocking fee to exchange it?
  • MuteMathSSR, on 10/11/2007, -14/+1Does anyone know of rumours of a new ipod generation?
  • MuteMathSSR, on 10/11/2007, -22/+1Does anyone know of any rumours of a new generation of ipods coming out?
    • clyde2801, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Last I heard, they'll be out a couple of months after the iPhone starts shipping. This is using the WAG method, of course...
  • rebelyell2k5, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Store still down, more updates to come?
  • rakesh2141, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Thank you.. now i need to call apple..
  • TedwardRoberts, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1So it has draft-n wireless, meaning that there's a good chance it will not be compatible with most of my networking stuff.

    Schweet.

    Other than that... I'm in love.
    • rebelyell2k5, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4It is draft, but it is ready, and works. The airport base station has n, as well as many pc routers.
    • chuckstep, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4And all Draft N cards are B/G compatible.
    • degenerategoat, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2I'm sure you'll be able to flash it once the spec is finalised. I flashed my draft g router up to the final spec without any problems.
  • PyroRaver, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3That's it? When are they going to announce the tablet notebooks? That's really the only thing that's keeping me from buying one for next year (college, woot woot!),oh and yeah, the over heating issues. My brother has a MacBook Pro, and the heating issues are really annoying, especially after he put $1500 into it. Apple. stop fooling around!
    • dynamojoe, on 10/11/2007, -4/+0It's likely they'll never create a tablet. Considering how slow the MS tablets were in getting off the ground, the R&D versus potential adoption rate pretty much means no Mac Tablet. (yes, I know about inkwell and all that, but by R&D i mostly mean software testing, wear studies, ergonomics, etc.). Some commentary on the tablet from a former apple exec: http://www.macobserver.com/article/2007/01/04.7.shtml
    • anonym41414, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Apple folks have said on a few occasions that they build working tablet-style computers but chose not to turn them into products. The advantages of a tablet (smaller size) just don't outweigh the disadvantages which become shockingly apparent the instant you want to send an instant message or compose an e-mail. Or, you know, post a comment on Digg.
    • theonedigg, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Install Fan Control. Works for me.
    • PyroRaver, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@theonedigg

      Thanks!
  • Sheetz, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1so are these the new santa rosa chips because theyre nothing but slightly updated core 2 duos
    • chuckstep, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1Yes. The major update from Santa Rosa was the 800MHz FSB.
    • DCstewieG, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13These do NOT have Santa Rosa. That will hopefully appear on the MB Pros at WWDC.
  • svenjick, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1More to come? The stores are closed "again"...?
    • PShot07, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1Why would the store be closed for 90 minutes... almost 2 hours now... Just for the MacBook update? New Apple Store design coming? iPhone related? Apple Suprise?
    • unloud, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7Sparse typing?... Rhetorical questions?
  • Scopitone, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6Give us a damn ultra-portable already!
  • godkillax, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1LOL, I love this. Watching people complain and say things like "Hey Apple came out with some new computers, What gives them the right?" Same thing with the iPods. I'm gonna love with the iPhone comes out and they release an updated version, everyone will cry after they spent $600 on a cell phone and then a new comes out.
  • techsmack, on 10/11/2007, -3/+0Ahh. A good step forward for the mac Books. Just when I'd seen about the 7th story in recent news talking about how the mac Books (for the price) barely stand up to the competition, and the cons (non-upgradeable and few options) made the competitors stand out a bit more.
  • dinopio, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3Its a pointless release... They were sposed to release the Santa Rosa CPU which has 800mhzbus, lower power consumption, faster ram, and faster cpu clocks...

    I guess this will come to Macbook Pro only.
    • rebelyell2k5, on 10/11/2007, -5/+11Twice the amount of ram for the same (previous) price and added DVD burning capability for the previous price is pointless?

      Yeah, I guess you're right, who would want that stuff?
    • AdmiralKarelia, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0The Santa Rosa JUST came out! Ever consider Apple didn't have the time to put in a brand-new processor and test it sufficiently before this update?
  • rakesh2141, on 10/11/2007, -10/+23Lucky me..

    Apple rocks..
    i placed my order for a new macbook on saturday..

    and now they have upgraded it.. i was scared have they shipped it...
    but i was wrong...

    they are configuring it and i will get the latest laptop..
    wow..

    that is cool...

    apple rocks..

    Roses are red. Violets are blue. Apple rocks. That is why it is for you.
    • camix, on 10/11/2007, -6/+6This new upgrade is so lame. I've been looking forward to the new macbook based on Santa Rosa and we get this lame upgrade. I mean come on apple!! What the hell, is the iPhone taking up that much of your time that you don't have enough engineers to come up with a decent macbook upgrade either?? I was looking forward to the Intel's new NAND flash-memory cache, Intel's GMA X3000 graphics technology and the increase in FSB to 800Mhz. I guess I'm just gonna go and get a Lenovo thinkpad instead.
    • lilrabbit129, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4You are cool.
  • onychahazel, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2I'm hoping the rumors of a 13 inch ultra portable are in the works.
    • rebelyell2k5, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5In fact, the rumors are in the works.

      Personally though, I'm hoping the real thing is in the works.

      /sarcasm
  • akf2000, on 10/11/2007, -5/+5I bought a new Blackbook 2 weeks ago, I'm fine with missing out on a new rev which equates to 40 GB of HD, I knew the risks!

    A bit of advice, 2GB RAM will make things fly, it's cheaper to buy additional memory from somewhere like Crucial (I'm not affiliated!) rather than in-store, it's almost half price - they told me they'd charge me for the 2 x 1GB and hand me back the 2 x 512s installed, which seemed a bit mean. You can spec a 2 GB machine online but there's the lead time and I've had too many bad experiences from the Apple online store.
  • rhabd0mancer, on 10/11/2007, -14/+2*yawn*

    Apple should stick to making iPods.
    • PAJK, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6lol. What? You know they made computers before they made iPods, right? Anyways. I'm getting one of these puppies.
    • sv650touring, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1They made personal computers before most people had ever heard of such a thing. Who was shipping before them? MITS, IMSAI, Processor Technology, SWTP, Cromemco.

      I didn't know it until I looked it up just now, but even the Commodore PET actually shipped after the first Apple ][. Apple pased the 30 year mark last month (for actually delivering systems).

      To put it another way, many diggers' parents are younger than Apple.
  • LaweranceOak, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Might not be the most noticeable update, but for once holding off 1 month to purchase a new one has finally paid off. Macrumors thanks you for your buyers guide! I would be sitting here with a new Mac Book and 2 weeks later they upgrade them!
  • SirBotchness, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Awesome, now if only i had the funds to buy a new computer :(
  • Davey78, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Maybe Apple is trying to clean out all of thier chip supplies by upgrading thier more affordable laptop line so that they can put Santa Rosa chips in the MBP (which would explain the upgrade in RAM because Santa Rosa can make use of faster RAM chips also).
  • rrmaclac, on 10/11/2007, -5/+0But they didn't even add a USB port...
  • speedyrev, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Just got into the online store. No MacBook pro update. It sure seems to close the margins between the MacBooks and the MacBook pro. I see the MacBook sales going up, the MBpro going down.
    • anonym41414, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Not really. The MacBook and MacBook Pro are nicely distinguished. The Pro buys you capabilities that you either need or you don't (FW 800, a card slot), a bigger screen which is always nice and much faster graphics which is nice if you're a photographer or an artist or somebody who plays video games. The MacBook lacks all of those things but is very nearly as fast as the Pro, and smaller, and a thousand bucks cheaper. It's pretty clear, based on what you do with your computer, which one you should by.
  • wxpbofh, on 10/11/2007, -8/+3WOT, no Santa Rosa ??
    At this rate, the iPhony (when it comes out) will be faster than the current mac computer lineup.
  • adiosjefe, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Hey Apple...why don't you throw those old C2D's into the mini!!!
    • crazybrit, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Weird... I asked for a Core 2 Duo Mac Mini a week or so ago and people told me they already existed.
    • corsairstw, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1He means to get rid of the rest of the C2D stock they have and start putting Santa Rosa chips into the computers.
  • Swamphhh, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14Still with the GMA950? I understand using integrated graphics on the MB but at this point there are better options to that old chip. And for that matter, the x1600 is getting pretty long in the tooth in the other models as well. Why does apple drag its feet for so long in graphics tech?
    • stmiller, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2It must be because of the AMD-ATI merger. Apple will most certainly be shifting to Nvidia graphics, like in the apple tv.
    • SaintStryfe, on 10/11/2007, -7/+0the Intergrated Graphics don't hurt - I run World of Warcraft on a Macbook C2D with 1 gig of RAM and I get 35-40 FPS with low graphics settings easily, without taxing the system.
    • dave932932, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13D gamers build their own boxes and run Windows....
  • marchdoe, on 10/11/2007, -7/+0Is that a new version of iphoto on the laptop on the apple.com home page?
    • unloud, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5No, it's full screen mode on the current iPhoto. Very useful.
    • corsairstw, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Yeah. They've had full screen mode for awhile in iPhoto.
  • StockOption, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Of course, I just bought my mother a new Macbook Pro for mother's day.
    • totorototoro, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4stockoption,
      return it..if you bought it within 14 days. Be polite, explain that its a gift, and they will probably exchange it without a restocking fee.
    • torpy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2No worries, it was just the consumer Macbooks that were updated, not the Pros. Those will probably have to wait till WWDC before they see an update..
  • corsairstw, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2I'm guessing that the lack of graphics update is mostly a power draw; heat; cooling issue.
  • bblades, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1I think it is a decent update, $999 for the low end model in the student store makes it the best value in the entire Mac line imo. The update makes me want to buy one now, but I will probably wait until August, hoping that they bring back that great deal from last year where students get a free Nano with the purchase of any Mac, that would be great. If they don't do that this year I'll wait until Leopard.

    I think Apple is playing it a litte tight with the update because they know people will be buying these things no matter what. They were a good buy at the old spec and they are even better now. There is so much talk about Santa Rosa, and yes it is the NEW thing right now but what are you really getting? A little faster integrated gpu, I am not going to jump over the moon for an integrated gpu no matter what you dress it up as. 200mhz faster front side bus, yes nice update, worth waiting for not really. Longer battery life, same as front side bus. I think a customer would be equally satisfied with the current Macbook as they would with the next update with Santa Rosa which I would expect by end of summer start of fall. If you like the form factor, the performance, and the fact that you can run any operating system on the market on it right now, go out and get one its a nice machine. If you want super performance, wait a month the MBP will come out and you will have a $2,000 beast of a machine, and enjoy it
  • rivostevo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Just to point out, the UK price has now been lowered from £749 on the basic version, to £699.00, saving £50 :)

    Some images on the store still say starting from £749, but I'm sure these will be updated.
  • dmbchris, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1One reason they updated to 1Gb? Adobe CS3 requires 1 Gb minimum. They were probably tired of people who just got their shiny new Mac and it wouldn't run their shiny new CS3.
  • Misos, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4MacBooks have been relatively decent still - Mac Minis are in desperate need of an upgrade. WTF Apple, get on the ball.
  • drummerant, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2Who said Macs were expensive?! (now...)

    Apple's White 13.3" Macbook, with 2GB RAM, 2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo and 160GB HD is
    over £160 CHEAPER than an equivalent Dell 12.1" Inspiron XPS, with the same specs...

    Spec them out and see...

    Apple Page:
    http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/6124041/wo/KL5T0ntrnXKc3gNrFoW1qYSdPRq/5.?p=0

    Dell Page:
    http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&kc=NRSM2102&l=en&oc=n05X26&rbc=n05X26&s=dhs&sbc=ukdhsrsxps_m1210_2
    • tapezor, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7The dell is couple pounds lighter, and you are also able to get a dedicated nvidia graphics card, which is worth the extra money I think. You are better off comparing the e1405 with the macbook because they both have the GMA950 graphics although there is no webcam option.

      However you could just get a dell latitude d630 / d830 that have santa rosa, turbo memory cache / hybrid hard drive starting at $1189.
    • astrosmash, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2But then you'd be stuck with a Dell.
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