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- piieerrrree, on 11/08/2009, -17/+120***** Apple.
- alpha88, on 11/08/2009, -3/+61There's always a way around security. Always. This won't stop anything. Make it more inconvenient? Maybe, but it won't stop it.
- ThatsNotPudding, on 11/08/2009, -11/+52Dicks.
- badqat, on 11/08/2009, -0/+29Apple may plan on clamping down on jailbreaking, but if it means rolling your own firmware, the phones will still be unlocked.
- Phatlip012, on 11/09/2009, -2/+30We can either push the hackers to crack this OR we can convince others to DROP the iPhone for an open platform like Android.
- Qumahlin, on 11/09/2009, -0/+25Tell that to the guys who have been working on DirectTV security for the last couple years...everyone said the same thing "they will get around it, there is always a way!"
Yeah...always a way, just not always a way that is accessible to the masses or cost effective. - jaytek13, on 11/09/2009, -1/+26Seriously? Are we to believe that they don't, and haven't for a long time, had someone to do this for them, and now suddenly after 3 years of having the iphone they are just now hiring someone to handle security, which means the end of jailbreaking?
I'm sure I'll get dugg down since I'm not part of the rabid anti-apple fanatics here, but come on, this is a huge stretch of a conclusion to be making. - opticwind, on 11/09/2009, -2/+24Alternatively, ***** idiots who bought an iPhone EXPECTING Apple to be open-sourcing and unlocking one of their products. I like some Mac products, but damn everyone should know by now how things work with them.
- tabion, on 11/09/2009, -6/+28Apple is retarded.
You pay out of your ass to have their iPhone, and then you can't use it how you want. What happened to owning what you buy? Bastards. - SPNKrPunk, on 11/09/2009, -0/+21FTA:
"It's not clear from the online job post whether this is a brand new position or Apple is seeking a replacement for an existing, or former, employee."
In other words, PCWorld needed hits so they created an article about the iPhone from an obscure job posting. They don't actually KNOW anything. - soopafly, on 11/09/2009, -1/+21"What happened to owning what you buy?"
You must be new around everywhere. - jrm125, on 11/09/2009, -0/+18There's still massive amounts of added functionality that come with jailbreaking.
- TheCash, on 11/09/2009, -3/+18***** Apple for making me have to Jailbreak in the first place just so I can do simple things like turn off/on bluetooth and wifi without having to go through four ***** menu screens first, customize the background and sound FX the way *I* want and not the way Steve ***** Jobs thinks I should want, and last but not least, run Apps like Pandora in the background so I can do other things while listening to music at the same time. Yes I know it kills the battery, but that's why I bought a car charger when I purchased the phone, which means I gave you EVEN MORE money Steve, so stop treating that like it's a bad thing. Like you care about saving the consumer money anyway, Mr. Apple Tax. I haven't unlocked it because I don't need to unlock it. AT&T is the only GSM party in town for me, and that's fine because their rates and network are comparable if not better to the competition around here anyway. I installed a new set of fog lamps on my truck this fall so I can better see during snowstorms and such, but you don't see Ford busting my ass for it, do you?
Gah. I need to go do something else and clear my head, because the more I think about this sort of *****, the angrier I get. I paid 300 dollars upon activation, and by contract pay another 90 bucks every month for 2 years, so why the ever loving ***** should I not be able to use this thing the way I see fit as long as it doesn't mess anyone else up? Huh? Answer me that you shriveled up turtleneck-wearing hobgoblin! - hipnado, on 11/09/2009, -0/+15Background applications for one. Automatic-updating of locations for two. Using the iPhone on Tmobile or another carrier for three. The list goes on and on...
- ohreilly, on 11/09/2009, -2/+16Symbian, the BlackBerry OS and WinMo aren't open source, but they certainly let you do what you want when it comes to software. They don't lack tons of features.
- aristotle0dude, on 11/09/2009, -3/+17Want to stop jailbreaking Apple? Then stop selling phones locked into a carrier or give people the option to request an unlock from carriers in places like Canada and the US after they have either bought the phone at full price or paid out the contract. If I paid around 800 bucks for a phone, I expect to be able to use it with other SIMs when I travel or if I decide to move to another country.
Right now, jailbreaking would do me no good even if I wanted to try it because you cannot unlock an iPhone 3GS once you have upgraded to 3.1.2 the official way. I had not jailbroken my iPhone 3GS before because I had no need to. I just want an official unlock like Sonera does for their customers in Finland.
Join me in pressuring your local carriers (Fido/Rogers/Telus/Bell if you are Canadian or AT&T if you are American) and also consider filing a complain with the CRTC maito:info@ccts-cprst.ca or FCC. SIM lock is anti-consumer and anti-competitive collusion. It goes against the original design of GSM which was to allow portability of user data via SIMs and portability of devices on networks via SIM swaps. Call your MPs or congressmen and lobby for a change in the regulations.
I have no interest in switching from my carrier, which is fido. I just want the option to do so without have to sell and rebuy a device when my contract is up. I also want to be able to use local sims when travelling if I feel like it. - skipvt, on 11/08/2009, -4/+16Rick rolled wallpaper worm was the first volley in the war on jailbreaking.
- Freegoo, on 11/09/2009, -0/+11Adding folder functionality is a killer function too. With CategoriesSB it's very fast too, sure beats digging through 11 pages.
- jaytek13, on 11/09/2009, -0/+11The source being a job posting that makes no suggestion that this is some sort of new or renewed effort to put the nail in the coffin on jailbreaking.
Thankfully the article at least admits:
"It's not clear from the online job post whether this is a brand new position or Apple is seeking a replacement for an existing, or former, employee."
But this is clear sensationalism. - valleyman86, on 11/09/2009, -1/+10@TxAggie08 I am a dev as well. Have you heard of installous? Its pretty easy to get apps cracked on the iPhone actually.
- barc0001, on 11/09/2009, -2/+11"As an iPhone developer I stick with Apple because it provides me a secure platform that makes pirating my products next to impossible."
HA! Pull the other one, it plays jingle bells!
http://www.mobilemarketingwatch.com/new-stats-prov ...
http://fingergaming.com/2009/10/26/tap-fu-develope ...
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/27/another-develope ...
You ever think maybe nobody's pirating your apps because nobody WANTS your apps? - sbraidley, on 11/08/2009, -1/+10I agree, GeoHot and the other hackers just will take a little longer to find a new exploit. I don't think Apple or anyone could make the iPhone 100% exploit free so there will never be an end to the jailbraking, just Apple making it harder.
- factsahoy, on 11/09/2009, -1/+9***** Apple even harder because, when your contract's up, AT&T & Apple STILL pretend, Oh, no, we can't unlock your phone.
*****. My ***** contract was up over a year ago, and they're still claiming this *****. They should be hammered on this mercilessly in the press and by every customer.
People are getting ripped off because THEY ALLOW IT. Grow a nut and fight back, people. - nosyt3, on 11/10/2009, -0/+7@chloe: you are a moron. kindly choke an a bucket of sand.
- GeckoSlayer, on 11/09/2009, -0/+7Not any new releases of the iPhone, but to be honest, if they do stop jailbreaking on the new phone I know that I wont be upgrading, as the phone is next to useless to me without jailbreaking. (and I was going to be buying/upgrading to the new iPhone)
- jordantneff, on 11/09/2009, -0/+6Actually I don't recall signing any papers with Apple. If you signed papers other than your signature on your receipt then you did something wrong.
- AmusedToDeath, on 11/09/2009, -0/+6There's going to be a river of Android devices coming in the next two years. If you want "open", buy Android.
The only reason to jailbreak in my opinion was because there was really no viable iphone alternative before the Droid, and jailbreaking was a necessary evil if you wanted those extra options on a decent next-gen smartphone. But honestly now, I don't see the point. If you want multitasking and skin customization, just go 'Droid and don't bother trying to hack the damn iPhone. - jaytek13, on 11/09/2009, -1/+6Wait... applications are out of the picture? You seem to have forgotten about the Google Voice debacle. And I'm sure there are yet still other apps that people want that Apple has rejected.
Otherwise, GV at this point is the only reason I have mine jailbroken at this point. Backgrounding is nice to have, sometimes, but really Apple is entirely right, it absolutely kills the battery. I've tried theming the iphone with Winterboard, and all the themes just seemed to take away something from the base functionality, the ease of use, that the iphone is known for already. - mrsteveman1, on 11/09/2009, -1/+6This is why Android NEEDS to take off bigtime, and for hardware makers to build something better than the halfass crap they throw over the fence every 4 months with Android on it.
If there were something (like droid?) that could actually compete with the iPhone, the software developers and users will migrate over and build a good ecosystem like the iPhone has right now. - ibic, on 11/09/2009, -1/+6That's right, Apple is a whore.
- bsonline, on 11/09/2009, -0/+5No, but it is a prerequisite thanks to hard to (legitimately) unlock iPhones.
- pyrates, on 11/09/2009, -2/+7No, it's people who stupidly installed an ssh server on their iphones without changing the root password.
- tabion, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5I wish I could favorite comments.
- Pyroteq, on 11/09/2009, -0/+5If you've got a 2G you can enable MMS after JailBreaking.
- mrsteveman1, on 11/09/2009, -0/+5Maybe when you're talking about software, but this is a hardware device they designed themselves. They can make it nearly impossible for the average user if they want to (and they ARE trying)
- rageguy, on 11/09/2009, -0/+4@samscomputer2
Backgrounder (killer app, how the hell do you use an iPhone without this?)
Video recording (iPhone 3G)
qTweeter (Can video tweet on iPhone 3G)
SBSettings (I can toggle rotation, 3g, bluetooth, wifi, brightness from within any app, good for power saving)
Twidget (Twitter on the lock screen)
MXTube (why stream when you can download?)
Not to mention the more cosmetic changes
Winterboard (themes)
5 dock (5 icon dock)
Categories (organise apps into folders)
Dozens more I could mention, 3g unrestrictor, tethering apps, quake/othergames, emulators, intelliscreen, access to regionalised apps, cyclay, action menu, safari download, ect. I feel like I am missing crap loads of useful apps. - Brak710101, on 11/09/2009, -2/+6Only way to stop jailbreaking is to pay off or get rid of people like Geohot and the rest of the iPhone hackers. They aren't just installing software, they're looking for security flaws to do it. They always have found one, and I bet they always will.
- opticwind, on 11/09/2009, -1/+5The funny thing is how ridiculously successfully Apple has woven the iPhone into the internet community. If Samsung said the same thing about their new phone, nobody would care.
- ohreilly, on 11/09/2009, -0/+4Sky Digital uses a similar encryption system to DirecTV (what do you expect, both companies once had common ownership with a company that creates encryption products) and in 12 years of operation it hasn't been fully hacked. The best that has been achieved is being able to use your legit Sky card in a generic DVB-S receiver to receive what you're paying for.
I doubt Apple has the best minds in the business working on it though, and they don't have threats of violence to prevent a hack being released (some seriously dodgy stuff goes on in the world of content encryption). I also doubt that RIM/HTC/Nokia have people trying to break Apple's efforts. - opticwind, on 11/09/2009, -1/+5And you know that when you buy it.
- emt1451, on 11/09/2009, -0/+4jailbreaking is not the same as unlocking.
- bsonline, on 11/09/2009, -0/+4I believe even those units are now unlockable, but I might be remembering something from next week.
- norman619, on 11/09/2009, -2/+6Why? If Apple can lie in their ads w/o similar demands for accuracy...
- ohreilly, on 11/09/2009, -1/+5But do I? I only know because I am on Digg and sometimes peruse the Mac-related forums.
If I rolled up to an Apple Store or Orange Shop, bought an iPod or iPhone, there are no warnings on the box that Apple exerts tons of control over a device you own, and nothing from the sales assistant either. It is only once you've bought it (unless you researched the topic thoroughly, but since it's Apple, you'd expect it to be good and just work) that you realise.
Besides, I own the device (yes I know it doesn't include owning the OS, but it is every much a part of the device as the hardware is IMO), I'll do what I want with it thank you very much. - garhent, on 11/09/2009, -3/+7One year to go and its back to Verizon and an Android phone. ATT can't hold a phone call for me and I'm in Silicon Valley. You'd think in America's tech heartland ATT would provide good service, HAHA no.
- bsonline, on 11/09/2009, -0/+3Remember the TIF exploit? When that was being used (OMG, the fun I had in ATT stores with that one) you actually patched and made the device more secure during the jailbreak process. Just think if someone had abused that security hole and mass emailed a tif with malicious code. Nimble hackers outp out-pacing acing big corp, FTW.
- CaviMike, on 11/09/2009, -0/+3Maybe by clamping down they mean ditching AT&T...
- sdipaola, on 11/09/2009, -0/+3Trouble is you pay double for stupid things like this - first the extra cost of the iphone for hiring folks to do this "security" and then of course again for the effort of those who have to counter it - the 2nd group is "free" but it keeps incredibly smart people from doing other innovative apps and projects
- bsonline, on 11/09/2009, -1/+4I see you put an either or statement in there. So if one thing occurs, does it truly preclude the other?
We can push hackers (with freaking donations, man, pay for that jailbreak if you can afford it) to crack ANY restrictive DRM and keep as many systems as open as possible while promoting platforms that are already open.
Cake. I'll have it, and I shall eat it, no matter the lies. - saisumimen, on 11/09/2009, -7/+10"b-b-but ith tho shiiiiny!"
-average Apple enthusiast ;p -
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