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- unleashedlive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17@ greevar
Dell Latitude D820. Cool! Slower processor, less ram, smaller hard drive, no bluetooth. Man I want to buy that now! To get that Dell to equal the MBP (2.33 model so graphics cards are equal) The Dell comes in at $2963 and the Mac is $2499.
right. - omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I've been a PC user since birth, but when I got my first Apple in 2005 I learned:
You get what you pay for. - ventro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I like how pretty much all the hardware they chose had the same anodized aluminum with grating enclosure.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I must say, everytime I use Windows and see these high spec Macbook Pros being mentioned, I can't help but want one. My wallet says no though. F**king cheap ass wallet!
- adamkmccarthy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13i dont agree. ive been a dell poster boy for years. never bought anything else. bought a mbp a few months back and the quality and diversity of hardware from perpendicular dives to sweet core 2s, serious ram and a really well made case make it way better than a dell quality wise, thats before turning it on and getting into the operating systems. I use a brand new, maxed out D620 for work and it can't hold a candle to the build quality and specs of the mbp, and the latitude cost more.
- jwdav, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9The Dell is also missing optical digital audio out, DVI, Firewire 400 and Firewire 800, Mag Safe Power, iSight Camera, Expresscard, an illuminated keyboard & possibly, a scrolling trackpad and has potentially, an inferior video card.
Going back to Dell, I found a few of the missing options (BlueTooth, RAM & HD Upgrade)
That prices out to $3103, but apparently, no one buys anything from Dell without a coupon of some sort, so the real price is probably lower...but even if the price is the same as the MacBook Pro, you get less with the Dell.
Strange times we live in ... - jwdav, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@questionable: "don't know people are getting $2963 for the Dell Latitude D820. I keep on getting ~$2100"
Comes to $2718, once you upgrade the stock processor to 2.33 GHz, & upgrade the screen from 1280 x 800. It is still missing Bluetooth, has 1GB RAM instead of the 2GB on the MacBook Pro and only has an 80GB drive. Not to mention missing iLife ... - Rice, on 10/12/2007, -4/+102.66 Ghz?
I thought the highest was 2.33...
ShuttleDisaster beat me to it. Bury. Thanks! :D - ShuttleDisaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6MBP = 2.66 ghz???
- omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8"If I drop my Dell down the stairs, they'll replace the broken parts. Why? Because they have a huge backlog of parts for their products."
I've dropped my PowerBook three times and it hasn't needed any replacement parts. That's why I'm staying with Apple. - Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7It means 'for the win'... as in he hopes the Mac Pro succeeds,
..but being that it not only is cheaper, quieter and better looking than any equivilant PC Workstation from any manufacturer, not to mention the fact that it runs a better, more secure OS (OS X), I think it will probably win anyway regardless of what his wishes are. - WiseWeasel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yeah, Infoworld is known for being a bunch of Apple whores... ::rolls eyes::
The fact that Infoworld nominated Macs at all is front page news in and of itself... - DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"I keep on getting ~$2100."
Then you aren't comparing them fairly. Try again and match the specs as closely as possible (CPU speed, hard drive size, DVD burner, bluetooth, 2GB RAM, etc.) Now, I'm not an expert on the fast changing world of video cards so I don't know which has better video but I'm getting ~$3000 for the Dell vs. $2500 for the MacBook Pro.
This has been a good exercise for me because I'm now even more convinced that the MBP is good value for the cost.
edit: It appears the graphics card on the MBP is quite a step above the one on the Dell. (http://preview.tinyurl.com/yfe2nt). It has this to say about the video in the D820, "It is based on the GeForce Go 7400 with professional certified graphics drivers for applications like CAD, Rendering, 3D modelling, etc. The usability for games is limited." - Kale, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5It's by far my favorite laptop with one exception, the battery life. My Dell 600M (pentium M) from 5-6 years ago had a longer battery life, and my iBook G4 (1.3 GHz) was nearly double the battery life. Other than that, the MBP is best laptop I have ever owned.
- ohnnyj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I do like my MacBook Pro. Not sure if it is the best laptop of the year, though, as it is the only one I've used. However, I can say that it has given me no problems so far. Highly recommened to anyone interested in a laptop purchase.
- OhJay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah and why are they giving out awards for 2007 three days into the year? Aren't they about 362 days early to make that kind of judgment?
Personally I don't think the MBP deserves the award one bit. I would've given it to Apple's upcoming Santa Rosa-based MacBook Pro, but that's just me. That's Technology of the Year right there! :gonk: - DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6"insanely high temperatures the machine runs at"
My MBP runs quite cool. - adam84a, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5indeed, I bought mine last spring. My first Mac and by far my favorite out of all of the computers I've ever owned.
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the battery life could use improvement, but it's better than my experience with Windows based laptops. - DannyDiggler, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Rightly deserved.
- TheRealDeal, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7The awards just keep coming in for Apple. Well deserved.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I dont agree. A Mac Pro is also good hardware on top of good software. I built one bad ass AMD PC about 2 years ago. The fan just stopped working. No way to know that will go out, it was highly recommended, but the bearings worn down. I don't have the QC capabilities that apple has. I guarantee you the fan on my Mac Pro will work 5 years from now.
- Odiwan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Another Digg rule: 90% of the time when someone says "Bury" as a helpful request (not a threat), they get dugg up.
- omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Sun Fire is best server, but Mac Pro is best desktop and MBP is best notebook – sure, the headline could have been a little more accurate in its description.
- malliemcg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I was beginning to think that apple may have snuck an update to the MBP in without the diggers noticing. Watch, several hours from now the rumors of an updated MBP at macworld w/ 2.66 C2D will be hitting the front page.
- danielwsmithee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@greevar
Your clueless. Um yes you can buy any off the shelf hard drive and plug it into a Mac it works out of the box I've done it many times, just specify how you want the drive formatted. As far as BIOS you are telling me that the selling point of an OEM/Dell is an old ROM/BIOS circa 1995, Macs use EFI look it up if you want to learn something. One of the many advantages the Mac has is they are not stuck with old technology like BIOS. As far as games are concerned I'm perfectly happy with my selection of games that run on OS X, for others there is BootCamp. I don't sit on my butt playing games all day everyday though so I guess I may not fit your needs. - ShuttleDisaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1anyone who owns a MBP C2D want to comment on the screen quality of their particular system?
- kelly, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4deserved
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Mac Pro FTW
- dschep, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2No, Sun Fire FTW. =P
- henchman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Where do you guys get these prices from.
I almost bought a MBP. But, for my use, by the time I added it all up, a comparable MPB would have cost me $700,- more.
Why?
I have a specific PCMCIA card that I need.
That alone would have cost me $400,- to upgrade.
I hate that the MPB has a lame 5400RPM HD.
My Dell D820 came to $2300,- CDN
This included an 80gig 7200 RPM drive
Blue tooth
Wireless Card
Biometric fingerprint pad
Also, it has the advantage of using the media bay system.
I can slide out the DVD burner, and insert a 2nd HD.
Which I'll be using to boot into OSX when I want to, or Vista or any other
secondary OS. - questionable, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I don't know people are getting $2963 for the Dell Latitude D820. I keep on getting ~$2100.
But when you're already paying that much for a laptop, I guess the $400 isn't that great of a difference. - mrthebunny, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Would some nice fellow kindly please-pretty-please bury me ?
- kanzo, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4Deserved?! Pheh!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2I am selling my Mac Mini to get a Mac Pro after MacWorld...Digg users can get a deal if they inquire then
- kelly, on 10/12/2007, -11/+6FTW???
WTF??? - Aleks, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Watch all the Gamers bash this article because it's not the XBOX/Wii/PS3.
- greevar, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0Alright. How many triple "A" game titles can you play on your Mac? Yeah, not many. That's because no one supports the OSX platform for gaming. Mac is a closed proprietary architecture. The reason the PC is so wide spread is because IBM used off the shelf parts that anyone could build a machine with and once people cracked the BIOS, they could make competitive copies of the IBM PC. Apple didn't want that competition so they went with a closed architecture. Now they pay for it with a 15% market share. While PC users benefit from the healthy competition, variety of software, and multitude of hardware vendors. Yes windows is hit with tons of viruses everyday, but I'm not as dumb as every other user. I haven't had a virus attack in months and the last one I had, my AVG caught it. Oh, here's another question? Can you upgrade that Mac? No? Yeah, I can upgrade my Dell. I can upgrade my home desktop too, which I built from inexpensive OEM parts. I have yet to have any of it fail on me. I have not had Windows crash on me in I don't know how long (it's been a looong time). I haven't had to reinstall either. My BIOS is written onto a nice integrated circuit called a ROM BIOS. Where is it on the Mac? It's on the hard drive. That's right, if your drive tanks you can't just buy any old drive from the electronic store, you have to get a drive from Apple. You better hope you've never damaged the case either. They won't touch it if it's damaged externally.
- Visk, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2I disagree it being the best notebook of the year.
I bought this Toshiba P100-ST9012 and it's awesome. I don't like the feel of the MacBook Pro because of the keys and the insanely high temperatures the machine runs at. Granted, the 9012 doesn't run as cool either. The fan is on most of the time cooling the 512MB 7900GTX; you'll hear it rev up the fan occasionally during normal use. The performance is great and the notebook is fairly light for a 17" (7lbs). I'm enjoying it more than I did the MacBook Pro.
The reason why the MacBook Pro won notebook of the year was because it runs Mac OSX as well as Win XP (and other OSes). Besides that, the MacBook Pro is just another slim, mid range notebook, in my opinion. - greevar, on 10/12/2007, -13/+7I have a Dell Latitude D820. It has the Core 2 Duo, the case is rock solid tri-alloy, modular drive bays (Mac's drives are not removable at all), and it's actually cheaper than a Macbook Pro. I even have the three year accidental damage warranty, which Mac has never offered. If you event dent that pretty macbook the apple store won't even touch it blaming any failure on the external damage. If I drop my Dell down the stairs, they'll replace the broken parts. Why? Because they have a huge backlog of parts for their products. Even the D600's from almost three years ago have replacement parts. That's what I call support. Let's see Apple counter that! I don't know where you get your prices from, but the latitude D series does not cost anywhere near what a Macbook pro does at base cost and the Dell has a lot more to choose from for included hardware.
- chrup, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1I'd just like to see OS X on other, non-Apple machines, maybe other high-end laptops like the Dell XPS or (my) HP DV9000.
- ohnnyj, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2I believe FTW = F*** The What.
Just kidding, FTW = For The Win - greevar, on 10/12/2007, -19/+11I work in a computer service center that deals with both Mac and Dell. If you put FreeBSD on a PC with a similar desktop environment it would be much cheaper and you get the exact same machine. They're nothing special. Bury me if you like Mac fans, the truth is that Mac is just a pretty dell with a different OS that all together costs too much.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3On Digg there's News, and then there's McNews. All these Mac promos are as obnoxious as McDonald's tie-in games of the 80's, like McKids. Next headline: "Mac preferred 8-to-1 by folks who say they like cool stuff!"
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