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static.thepiratebay.org — Very funny! These guys at Piratebay Fear No one!

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  • manifestdata, on 10/26/2007, -71/+534Man you apple kids just cant take any negative press against apple can you?
  • lordmetroid, on 10/26/2007, -18/+380Umm, treason has to be done against one's own country... Last time I checked the Pirate Bay crew are all Swedish. Hence no treason against USA. You know there is more than one country and one law. In fact there are many countries and each of them has their own laws.
  • dexim, on 10/26/2007, -19/+361"I hope the pirate bay knows in the US, divulging trade secrets has the same punishment as treason."

    Umm... yeah... you sure about that?
  • Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -4/+290I personally love how right at the end of the e-mail, the footer reads

    "If you are not the intended recipient, you may not read,
    copy, distribute, or use this information."

    Good 'ole legal speak - telling you not to read an e-mail you must have read to get to that point.
  • tkotam, on 10/12/2007, -21/+200"The previous lawyers tried to use a cheaper brand, but it broke during the action."

    People, now, that's funny.. !! :-)
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -20/+194@lordmetroid: "You know there is more than one country and one law. In fact there are many countries and each of them has their own laws."

    Nonsense! Stop with the Al-Qaeda propaganda. Why do you hate America?
  • ludwik, on 10/12/2007, -6/+130Just a common sense. If the site is down, and people can't read the text it makes sense to copy it for them. But when the text is available you just make mess by coping it.
  • dhughes, on 10/12/2007, -5/+118 I wonder if Apple's lawyers are glossy, all white with rounded corners and respond to a light touch?
  • turnpaugh622, on 10/12/2007, -5/+102I am an American(US) and I digg those Swedish Pirates
  • cpbrown, on 10/12/2007, -18/+107on behalf of all of digg's users ... thankyou piratebay
  • WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -29/+103"I hope the pirate bay knows in the US, divulging trade secrets has the same punishment as treason."

    LOL! Treason against a piece of fruit.
    "You are hereby sentenced to the compost bin!"

    You Apple kiddies are so pathetic.
  • nfvs, on 08/30/2008, -5/+76@i440

    Yeah, well, why dont you try the real link, and then tell us what's funnier, and then stop trolling on every thread?

    http://thepiratebay.org/legal
  • Frankie4Fingers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+73wow. Harsh words. You know Apple doesn't need to do that. In fact no vendor NEEDS to use any means to stop piracy. In fact what they are doing when they do that is just pissing off the normal users that don't pirate software.

    For instance, I have a movie I just rented from blockbuster, and now I can't even play it on my big TV because my media center PC won't play it. How lame is that. I must now go and get a piece of software that will let it play. So I have to go and fricken hack my computer to get a normal, rented DVD to play. Why ***** up consumers to save a little money on old media when you could just innovate and people would buy it like hotcakes.
  • carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+69you're probably being dugg down for digg-whoring, we know TPB isn't going down, so there's no need to post the content here except to try and get some positive karma. posting an article who's nature means it may be taken down by the digg effect, or by an angry lawsuit is ok.
  • ylph, on 10/12/2007, -7/+69@i440:

    Not everyone subscribes to the same morality as you do - many people believe that the principle of copyright, or at least its present day implementation is what is immoral.

    Throughout history of human civilization, copyright is a relatively recent invention - bulk of the human cultural heritage, be it songs, stories or technology was freely traded and passed on by generations for 100's of thousands of years. In the modern age copyright was invented as a social contract by which we, the people, have voluntarily and TEMPORARILY gave up our God given right to the human knowledge to it's original creators so that they can initially profit from it, and thus have an incentive to produce more. However, over the centuries since it's introduction, this social contract has slowly been hijacked by the middle-men PARASITES, who not only do not contribute anything to benefit the society, they have enslaved the actual content creators into exploitative contracts, and turned the consumers into mindless sheep by trying to convince us that theirs is the moral position. The way copyright is structured today, it provides next to no benefit to society nor the actual content producers, and therefore it is our duty and the only moral thing to do to stand up and fight it at every turn possible.
  • mingistech, on 10/12/2007, -14/+76Nice! I love the Piratebay.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+64Yes, exactly, bitch: that's the definition of trolling. Making posts like the above to elicit a response like I am making right now.
  • d03boy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+59@junkmail
    Your last statement didn't make sense. ludwik was saying that you should only copy/paste the text if the site is down. Otherwise, it just fills our screens with crap.
  • SniperGX1, on 10/12/2007, -18/+69"Why do you guys find this funny? "

    Because lawyers are a waste of space and resources, even if the only resources they consume is air and water.
  • BillehBob, on 10/12/2007, -11/+61Dated April 21, 2005.
    Apart from the fact that it is only marginally funny, it is also old "news".
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+58Haha! I love them.
  • jooaakim, on 10/12/2007, -10/+55turpenine: good thing that the pirate bay aren't based in the fascist states of america then.

    playing world cop might work in the third world, but when they tried to do that in sweden TPB just got back stronger and the people had another reason to not vote for the running government.
  • orlandogeek, on 10/12/2007, -11/+52You know, he got buried, but he's right. While it does make the companies look like dicks for having their lawyers send these letters, they really dont have a choice under our jacked up American copyright laws. Either they defend their copyrights or they can be declared null and void. It doesnt leave companies much chioce. They kind of have to throw money away on pointless junk letters like this to show intent to defend their intellectual property.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+45Die.
  • kingace, on 10/12/2007, -12/+43Point that you're making:
    * That you're a jackass. If you don't like Digg or it's users, then leave. Nobody is asking you to stay.
    * That you have no sense of humor.
  • GlargTheKelfn, on 10/12/2007, -12/+43anyone who supports waterbording for running a torrent site is a steaming pile of *****. may your whole family get the gitmo treatment in front of you.

    dumbass
  • hypermog, on 10/12/2007, -5/+36@lordmetroid: Just because a crime has the same punishment as treason doesn't mean that it is treason.
  • sbenus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24apple and their lawyers know the letter won't do ***** and will get posted and ridiculed. they send it anyway so they have proof they tried to protect their copyright.
  • lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25Because suprisingly Sweden has other laws than USA!

    On a more detailed level... They don't do anything that breaks against the laws when providing a torrent that can be used to copy copyrighted information.
  • Flare, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26Hey... anybody wants to meet Ian Ramage?

    http://www.omm.com/Webcode/navigate.asp?nodehandle=31&idContent=4447

    Wow... he looks tough.
  • osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -6/+26wowbagger - ... and we won't buy it.
  • lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -11/+30You don't get it... It's a fight for democracy against a fascistic corporate sociaety atmosphere. It's about our right to information and freedom of speech and our right ro personal privact. We can not down prioritize these very important aspects of a democratic society so someone can earn money on a by state given monopoly on information.

    If information can not be free your thoughts can not be free. If noone can make use of previous information we can not make advances in research or developement. The whole industrial society would never have been possible with todays immaterial climate and laws of surveilence as well as crazy things like you can not do whatever you want with the property you bought.

    Even companies themselves(at least sucessfull ones) make sure that people break against their copyrights. Do you think Microsoft lost advantage because Windows has been copied to the point it has become an infustrial standard. Other information that can be copied also gain this advantage.

  • fyngyrz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22"And wanting someone sodomized with a ASP 21" retractable baton is different how?"

    Please study these interesting facts. There's going to be a quiz next period:

    a) Waterboarding by use of state force invariably results in involuntary suffering of a kind we call "torture."

    b) Suggesting someone of moderate intelligence self-sodomize themselves in no way increases the likelihood that they will, in fact, be sodomized against their will. Amazing, but true! Counter-intuitively, such suggestions can, when made to individuals with a sense of humor, actually result in a smile or a laugh.

    Perhaps after a little contemplation, you too can learn to understand and even recognize the differences between written hyperbole, and state-sponsored torture.

    Also, a word to the wise: If someone suggests you sodomize yourself with a baton... just... don't do it, ok? I mean, unless you really want to, of course. Thanks.

    You have a nice day, now.
  • mr.gates, on 10/12/2007, -10/+27Steve Jobs is a control freak hope he doesn't see this email, it will piss him off to no end. We might not see new Apple product lines for years, he'll be too busy trying to sue Piratbay
  • wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -8/+25Me loves TPB and their lawyer letters. Read the "legal threats" section of the site, very funny. Granted, this attitude did result in their servers getting confiscated and their offices raided, but they are back up. And those politicians responsible in Sweden are probably going to get tossed out in the next elections, as the appearance is that they caved into U.S. pressure. So who really lost?
  • N3wtR0ckn13, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18that's funny, especially because the pirate bay law firm is right in san francisco near the apple store if they ever wanted to meet up.
  • DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Alright, let's ban this spammer.

    See the little circle with a cross through it beside "boondockss"? Click it. When enough people do so, the account will be banned.
  • kroenecker, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Its not "piracy" to copy ones and zeros. Yes, probably copyright infringement, but not theft.

    That having been said, huge corporations shouldn't be worshiped. Do you really think that they actually want to give us respect as consumers? Seriously they do everything that they can to save a buck. Which usually means trampling on everything around them.
  • Hypermarkalan, on 10/12/2007, -8/+24@i440
    That's very true. It doesn't mean that at all. I don't think their actions are immoral either.

    Way to use that big eighth grade education to further look like a douche.
  • Archon810, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15"If you are not the intended recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute, or use this information."

    Crap, they put it at the very end... crap!! c:undo read
  • lagartoflojo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Is it illegal to download pirated software/media? Sure. Does it hurt the companies that make that media? I'd say, hardly. The thing is, most people download it because they are not willing to pay for it. If they had no way to obtain what they want WITHOUT paying, they just wouldn't get it at all. So the companies won't get these people's money anyways!
    But in the case of Microsoft, for example, they would probably rather you use a pirated copy of Windows than have you switch to Linux or another OS.
  • Caboose101, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16"I think that it is funnier that most of the e-mails on http://static.thepiratebay.org/legal/ have been removed..."@i440
    They havent been deleted, you're just on the older page. Here's the new one. http://thepiratebay.org/legal The EA one is particularly humorous.

    "Oh wait, just kidding. We haven't, since the site in question is fully
    legal. Unlike certain other countries, such as the one you're in, we have
    sane copyright laws here. But we also have polar bears roaming the
    streets and attacking people :-(."
  • bontaq, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Even though it's old, good see a reminder that people with balls still exist.
  • Silverphoenix55, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Long live Pirate Bay!
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20try this:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=+site%3Astatic.thepiratebay.org+static.thepiratebay.org&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=&safe=off

    good ole cached pages
  • gsnedders, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15In Sweden they are breaking no laws by running the site (although the people uploading/downloading the torrents MAY be in breach of the laws of the country they live in).

    [Edit: beaten.]
  • Yeago, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20Mildly funny how an elaboration in agreeance of a -28 digg comment can get +8 diggs.
  • devoinregress, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20* Stealing is free speech
    -No, it's civil disobedience or it's just steeling and everyone on this site knows that.

    * Downloading the latest crap from Hollywood is a way to resist the "fascist" state
    -Well, the artists get about the same amount of money if you get something off iTMS or if you get something off of TPB. If you don't want to support the RIAA in these practices how is going to TPB not a decent form of resistance?

    * We don't need lawyers.
    -Of coarse we need them.

    Guys: take a trip to North Korea, Cuba or Burma. People there can give you a clearer definition of fascism and why we need lawyers.
    -Those are all communist countries not fascist ones. N. Korea is shifting towards a fascist state, I will give you that.
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