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Apple Launches How-To Site For New Mac Users

informationweek.com — Apple has launched a subsection of its site that offers dozens of how-to videos to try to sway Windows users and to help new Mac customers get started.

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  • dotlizard, on 02/02/2008, -32/+18oh excellent timing! if all goes well, i'll be bringing home my (like new!) powerbook G4 this evening (it will be the house computer, as i have found that no one in my household can be trusted to run a copy of Windows without clicking the wrong thing and catching something), and they'll need some instructions. so thanks! i needed this.
    • solidus636, on 02/02/2008, -21/+15No one really cares...
    • Audacitor, on 02/02/2008, -14/+7Your using a PPC comp? And a G4 at that? How do you do anything on a platform that ancient?
      • 8KROM, on 02/02/2008, -3/+11actually I ran a 400mhz G4 desktop w/ 10.3 up until 06.. sure it chugged along but she never crashed.. even running PS CS2.. it was just slow.. trying do that on a windows box.. or for that fact, gimp on a linux box that slow without it crashing. Just like an old Volvo.. haha digg me down!!
        • troye, on 02/02/2008, -4/+1Linux could run GIMP on a 400mhz, don't trash talk, Linux doesn't tolerate slander, just think of SCO.
      • rufusg, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3for home, my 450mhz cube with a gig of ram is still getting a lot of use. That's pre 2001.
        here's a review of it running OS X 10.4, as I am: http://www.osnews.com/story/17583
        10.5 is another story, but this thing is at least seven years old.


      • bedouin, on 02/02/2008, -0/+4My primary machine is a 1.4ghz G4 that I've owned since 2002. I also own a 2ghz MacBook. My G4 is plenty speedy.

        My father has a 1ghz eMac and a 900mhz G3 iBook. He uses both regularly and they're doing just fine. Of course, the iBook cannot run Leopard.

        The other day I gave away a 450 G3 iMac to someone who couldn't easily buy a new computer. It's doing just fine.
        • troye, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Nice to see you recycling. I'm going to recycle a 1Ghz Sony Vaio by giving it to charity when XP becomes extinct.
      • TheBigSquid, on 02/02/2008, -0/+5Typing on a G4 iBook right now. I don't need the latest and greatest just for email and web browsing.
        Besides, your comment is just plain rude.
      • MacParrot, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3933Mhz G4 iBook runs Leopard with nary a hiccup. 933Mhz QuickSilver tower does the same. Both are from 2002-03
    • Maverick18x, on 02/02/2008, -6/+10Actually, I do care. Congratulations on your new mac... powerbook G4s are awesome. Just make sure you have plenty of ram, if you can upgrade it to 2 gigs or more it'll be a great main computer for the next couple years.
    • banmaster, on 02/02/2008, -11/+19Your family must be really stupid douches if NONE of you can resist clicking on the monkey to win a free iPod!
      • chazza125, on 02/02/2008, -0/+6So I'm not getting a free ipod?
      • MacParrot, on 02/02/2008, -0/+6I didn't expect to win an iPod, but I did enjoy clicking the monkey!
      • ibeetle, on 02/02/2008, -1/+9banmaster-
        Just because you have a degree in Programing Languages, 15 years experience as head of a IT Department, 12 Microsoft and 3 Apple Certifications, and beat HALO 3 in a 3 day weekend. Does not mean the 40 year old woman that lives next door to you is a internet savvy.
        Like you have never downloaded that Blink 182 CD from Pirate Bay only to have a Trojan installed. Or downloaded the new Photoshop from Softwarez.com only to find you now have a worm you have to squash. I guess you never bought a CD with a root kit on it either?
        • zongamin, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Blink 182? What are you 12 years old or something?
      • digitalpencil, on 02/03/2008, -1/+1Welcome to Digg! Home of obnoxious pricks..
  • rtcrooks, on 02/02/2008, -10/+62probably much needed with the recent influx in mac owners.
    • Phatt138, on 02/02/2008, -7/+105No kidding. When I bought my MacBook (and had my first experience with the Mac OS) last year, I couldn't even figure out how to install applications. There really -is- no manual that tells you how to do the simplest of things. Apparently Apple so believes in the system's intuitiveness that they think they can leave out basic documentation. The idea that I would drag an application into a folder by way of 'installation' was confounding coming from a Windows background, and it took me a few minutes to find my sea legs.

      I gotta say though - once OS X starts making sense, it starts making a LOT of sense. It's unfortunate that the lack of documentation probably prevents most people from using the system the way it was meant to be used. Getting used to OS X is fun in terms of exploration, but not everyone has the time or technical confidence to learn things by trial and error.
      • mooseontheloose, on 02/02/2008, -8/+22Pretty much the same exact experience I had. I can't tell you how many programs I accidentally deleted because I thought I had installed them

        But once you get to learn it OSX is leaps and bounds ahead of Windows. I don't miss it at all
      • Audacitor, on 02/02/2008, -9/+43For someone coming from Windows, OS X can seem weird. Installing applications by dragging them to the Applications folder is something so simple a Windows user wouldn't think of it.
        • dbr_onix, on 02/02/2008, -10/+25Well, in all fairness, double clicking an Setup.exe file and following the onscreen prompts is a bit easier than extracting a someapp.dmg.gz file, mounting the DMG image, dragging the application from there to the Applications folder, ejecting the disk image, trashing the .dmg file, and dragging the application to the dock.

          That said, I much prefer the OS X way of doing things (It's so much more flexible. I normally extract new applications to the desktop, try it out, make sure it's of some use, then put it in my home-directories Applications folder. If not, drop it on AppZapper it and it's gone).. I suppose it's not really difficult, it's just different.
          • Goobernutz, on 02/02/2008, -10/+161) First of all, most apps aren't gzipped. So you can cut out that step. Or else you could add "extract zip file" into your windows steps. This is hardly a worth mentioning.
            2) "Mounting the DMG" == "double clicking a Setep.exe"
            3) Dragging the app to the apps folder is usually accomplished by following the 1 on screen instruction showing an icon, and an arrow pointing to the apps folder. And it's not just a graphical instruction, it actually IS the app and the apps folder. One step compared to "next" "next" "next" "next" etc.
            4) Ejecting and trashing the dmg is a problem? Granted, it's not obvious that you need to eject it. But removing the installer?...So what do you do with all your exe's?
            5) Dragging to the dock is no different than creating a shortcut in window. You do it if you want to. Otherwise, just click on the apps folder in the dock because it will already be there.
            Sounds like an even match to me. Except that a large percentage of exe's can wipe out your entire system without even touching them. And good luck removing all traces of ANY windows app, even with the uninstaller.
          • Philbert, on 02/02/2008, -8/+1[deleted]
          • astrosmash, on 02/02/2008, -3/+6If you're used to the Windows way of doing things where you double-click setup.exe, it mashes up the registry for a bit then magically places a new icon in your Start Menu, then the OS X way of doing things might seem strange and unintuitive.

            If you're used to the Mac/OS X way of doing things, where an application is handled no differently from any other document or object on your desktop, then the Windows way of doing things might seem utterly satanic.

            The problem (for Apple) is that the average user is completely incapable of judging whether one approach is better than the other. People simply gravitate toward that which is familiar to them. Similarly, most people who either grew up with Macs or made the leap to OS X may find they much prefer it to Windows but they can't begin to understand why.
          • PathDaemon, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2Summary of application installation in Mac OS X:

            Applications will generally be compressed somehow for download. The preferred format is a DMG (disk image) though you may also find applications in zip archives.

            Open the archive. If it's a DMG, it'll mount as a disk and a window will appear, while a new folder will appear next to the archive if it's a zip or other. Here will be one of three things: the application itself, an installer, or an installer package.

            If the most prominent icon in the new folder or window IS that of the application and doesn't have a special name like "Installer," that's it — drag that file to your Applications folder. If it's an installer or ends in .pkg and has a boxlike icon, double click on it WITHOUT copying it anywhere and follow the installation steps. When you're done, eject the DMG and feel free to delete any extra folders or files lying around your Downloads folder.
      • astrosmash, on 02/02/2008, -0/+6I remember the first time I used OS X (10.2), new eMacs that our university had just bought. The first thing I tried to do was reconfigure the Dock. That is, add, remove, and rearrange the Dock's icons.

        Now, I had been a Windows developer for a number years and had become very familiar with how Windows and Explorer do things, and I was very set in my ways as far as how applications should work. I tried the Dock's context menus, I poked around the Control Panel/System Preferences. Nothing. I then tried to find the Dock settings file in /Library/Preferences, thinking that the school had locked down the Dock in some way. True story.

        Then, of course, I figured it out, and it was one of those profound 'bah!' moments that made me reevaluate my whole approach to software. It would be a couple of more years before I would buy my first OS X machine (10.2 wasn't really up to snuff) but the seed was planted that day.

        If you were to document in words, step by step, how to install applications in OS X, it would come sounding like an impossibly complex process. It's better to just let people poke around and figure out the metaphor on their own. I think it has much more to do with unlearning the way things worked on your old computer than anything else.
        • MacParrot, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4I started out with OS X on 10.2. If you had seen or used 10.0 or 10.1 you would know why I stayed with OS 9 for awhile.
        • sudowrestler, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2I think you're right about it usually being more an unlearning process. If you did an experiment with a group of people who had no prior experience with computers (increasingly rare people these days) and gave half of them Macs and half Windows machines, I'm pretty sure the Mac group would make faster progress. The "Mac paradigm" would be more intuitive to an absolute beginner. And, also, there's a lot less cruft in the way. The noise level is lower, so to speak. I think some people expect it to be somehow "better than Windows" while at the same time doing everything in exactly the same way. That would be quite a trick.
    • 31213121, on 02/02/2008, -4/+3Yeah, it's very useful for for those who already switched, OSX is completely different from Windows, though if you have no Mac atm and want to really try out things, you need this tutorial: http://osx86.thefreesuite.com/
    • yevkasem, on 02/02/2008, -8/+2but i thought os x was so cool and simple anyone could use it?
      • Ireland, on 02/02/2008, -0/+4It is, that's not the problem though. The problem is it's different than the Windows way of doing things. Easier, but different.
  • Barbosa, on 02/02/2008, -10/+16This is a great idea. My friend has a Mac, but I am a user who only has experience of MS OS's and more recently Linux (have been too broke to buy Apple except for the Apple 2e in elementary school with the green monitor and no mouse). The few times I tried to use my friend's Mac I found myself unable to complete simple tasks and sometimes got frustrated (granted I have only spent about an hour total using it so far). Unfortunately my friend is no help because they just started using Mac at her house and they are all learning too. Definitely a site we can both use. Thanks!
    • jabberwolf, on 02/02/2008, -25/+6Yeah isnt it great that Apple sat on top of another OS (BeOS) put their label on it, locked it down to the highest marked up computer hardware ever, and now you are buying this crap.

      Yeah wonderful how they give you instructions on an OS that has more Holes in it than XP or Vista combined and tripled !
      • Nossie, on 02/02/2008, -1/+8sounds like you bought up a load of crap....

        1. Palm bought Be. Inc (BeOS) property, sat on it and then sold it to access who have allowed Haiku the use of the source/license to get that OS up and running while sending threatening letters to Zeta developers for using code they were not licensed to use.

        2. Steve Jobs got kicked out of/ resigned from Apple and started his own Company called NeXT. NeXT made mostly high performance accountancy servers and one of them was in the shape of a cube (also the very first www server). Apple then bought out NeXT because they wanted a promising Unix BASED OS and OS9 was going the way of Win95. Funnily, over a short period of time the NeXT board ended up taking over the Apple board of directors INCLUDING Steve Jobs... and we know what happened to him after that.

        So where/when did Apple sit on BeOS ? tell me its not true that OSX is really BeOS in disguise?
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT
      • MacParrot, on 02/02/2008, -0/+5Any chance you'll come back and acknowledge your stupid error jabberwolf?
        And your comment about holes? Wanna give me a list of exploits that will automatically run and do damage using those exploits on OS X?
        nah, didn't think you would.
      • yabos, on 02/02/2008, -0/+5Are you retarded?
      • dacomputerfreak, on 02/02/2008, -1/+3Show us a single example of a mass exploit that affected Mac users, just one. The holes in your Winblows OS are at this time more severe, more exploited, and give you more of a chance of your data stolen or your computer become a zombie. By the way, Mac is sitting atop of BSD, not BEOS. Some people...
      • RockinRoel, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2The only exploit I ever had on my Mac was a Windows one. Wine's memory and processor usage was huge. I just force quitted Wine and everything was cool again.
    • z28com, on 02/02/2008, -2/+9I would check out the Mac Mini. It's one of the least expensive Macs. http://www.apple.com/macmini/
    • lut4rp, on 02/03/2008, -1/+0ive been waiting to dearly complete the current project im working on.. then its destination macbook pro for me! i had been thinking about such a website a while ago.. i guess stevie just read my mind XD
    • zongamin, on 02/03/2008, -0/+3Unable to complete simple tasks? Like what?
  • ajkdajkd, on 02/02/2008, -10/+2A good resource is Switch To A Mac Guides http://switchtoamac.com/guides
  • ialan2, on 02/02/2008, -6/+83direct link:
    http://www.apple.com/findouthow/macosx/
  • Diggtatorship, on 02/02/2008, -18/+75I bought my first mac (a used powerbook G4) a couple of months ago. Within a week I was so impressed by OS X that I decided to go 100% mac. I've since re-sold the G4 for the same amount I paid for it (amazing how these things seem to never loose value) I used that money to order a refurb C2D 2Ghz Mini from apple, and in a few months I'll be shopping for a new MacBook.

    Lest you remaining windows guys think I'm some kind of casual computer user(idiot mac user in microsoft terms). I've actually been building my own PC's for years, and even built PC's as a side-job at one point. I've been an avid PC gamer, and professionally I'm a Unix system administrator. I admit, the fact that OS X is essentially a Unix distro played a huge part in me wanting to at least give them a shot. I love being able to open up the terminal and hack the day away.

    I almost regret not having made the switch earlier. All those years mindlessly discounting Macs as Idiot-boxes and what-not... I think I picked a good time to finally take the dive, and I can easily forsee Apple really taking a huge chunk of the market back from Microsoft. The apocalypse must not be far off.
    • Diggtatorship, on 02/02/2008, -9/+23"your sesion has expired" - thanks digg (Grrrrrrr)

      Anyway, I was going to add: My experience with Apple hasn't been all peaches and rainbows... The first few days were really frustrating, and it seems like it takes them an eternity to get things shipped out of their warehouse(Seriously? 2 weeks to get my Mini? Is that the best you can do?). With that said, it would have been great to have these videos a few months ago, and hopefully they can get their shipping lines in order.
      • Audacitor, on 02/02/2008, -5/+11Wow. Never thought I'd see someone who used to be an Apple basher fully admit that when they'd made the switch. I trust you've already discovered Quicksilver and Growl?
        • Diggtatorship, on 02/02/2008, -3/+7Quicksilver, yes, and I can't live without it.

          Growl, no, it didn't look like something that would be incredibly useful to me, but I guess I should give it a shot.
          • dbr_onix, on 02/02/2008, -2/+4Growl isn't incredibly useful, it's just nice to have most applications display notifications in the same way.
            It's very unobtrusive - you're as well installing it, even if you rarely see the notifications...
      • tapo, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Growl takes some understanding. It's basically a daemon that your applications notify when they want to show something, giving you a pretty, passive notification that something has happened (You got a new email, new IM, your download finished, etc.)

        It's incredible, and should be a staple of all future operating systems, and as a recent unwilling Windows convert (college supplied laptop), I wish there was a similar solution for Windows.
        • MacParrot, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Growl is very cool, but you have to be careful with it as well.

          I was doing some podcasting with Skype and was texted in the middle of saying a sentence. Growl first informed me of the message and then started saying it. I was completely distracted and ended up sounding like an idiot (more so than usual). I turn Growl off before podcasting now.
          • PathDaemon, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Growl is generally silent... you may just want to check your settings.
    • fugazied, on 02/02/2008, -1/+9Yup I only switched to mac about 8 months ago. The one regret I have is not switching to mac as soon as OS X was released. A lot of wasted time on MS boxes.
      • EntropyFan, on 02/02/2008, -1/+6Did you ever see OSX when it was first released? It couldn't even play a DVD. It was slower then any OS I'd ever seen, and crashed all the time.
        It made the Vista launch look like paradise.
        It has come a long way, but believe me, you wouldn't have wanted to use it when it launched
      • zeeky, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4its true. 10.3 was when it started getting good.
    • joegibes, on 02/02/2008, -0/+4I'm fine with XP for now, mainly because lots of my games and applications won't work on OSX. I know that you can dual-boot, but why would I spend $2200 on a Macbook Pro when I can have a laptop with similar specs for half that.
      • blackmage439, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Agreed. I was very close to getting a MacBook Pro, because I wanted to run OS X and Windows easily on the same system. Instead, I got a comparable Dell for $400 less. The only things it's missing are Bluetooth (which I don't see myself using) and a Gigabit NIC, which is overkill anyway.

        I want my next computer to be a Mac, but it's so much cheaper to just upgrade my PC tower's internals than purchase a new system. Then again, the new iMacs are incredibly fairly priced, especially with an education discount.
  • maxpower2911, on 02/02/2008, -65/+23B b but I thought Macs "just worked"? Isn't it weird how when more people use them there are more problems?
    • Phatt138, on 02/02/2008, -10/+42People have trouble because the Windows-style environment is so pervasive that any deviation from it is a potential stumbling-block.

      I'm a long-time Windows poweruser, Linux devotee, and Mac addict, and I can honestly say that OS X's personality, while a little idiosyncratic, has much more to offer under the surface. For instance, a lot of WIndows users don't understand why shutting open application windows doesn't terminate programs on OS X. At first, it seems a little silly to 'x-out' of a window and see the application still running in the Dock. In practice however, the ability to close individual windows while leaving their parent programs running can be very desirable in terms of load time and easy accessibility.

      The point is simply that the Mac OS makes perfect sense - but it's not a Windows clone, which is what most casual users expect when working on a computer. In my mind, time spent with OS X always yields some important and handy discoveries; it's like their UI designers set out to solve problems that you didn't even realize you were having with the Windows workflow. It takes some getting used to, but it's a very powerful and intuitive system once you're there.
      • KloroFormd, on 02/02/2008, -3/+6Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm not a Mac user (only due to the proprietary nature of Apple and hardware; my hobby is building/overclocking systems) but I really do enjoy every chance I get to use one.
      • jabberwolf, on 02/02/2008, -10/+4Yeah how ***** simple it is to right click on something to copy edit delete past etc.... thats SOOOOO ***** difficult !
        • MonkeyFarts, on 02/02/2008, -0/+4Whoosh! The sound of ignorance!
          • digitalarcanum, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1no... ignorance is more like a broken hard drive head: *THUNK* GRIND*GRIND*GRIND* THUNK*
        • MacParrot, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1It's what jabby does. SHHHHH! You'll disturb his "duuuh" groove!
        • UKsHaDoW, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3How easy is it to drag drop files? Easier?
        • iChainsaw, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3you can right click on macs.
    • catachip, on 02/02/2008, -2/+14jesus ***** christ, if I hear another person throw out the "b b but, I thought macs just worked" line I'm going to lose it. scratch that, I've already lost it. we get it, alright, please follow every Vista problem post with "b b but, I thought the Wow starts Now"
    • dacomputerfreak, on 02/02/2008, -2/+6Right, and (Insert any other OS here) is bug-free. I use XP, Vista, Ubuntu, FreeBSD, OSX 10.4 and 10.5, they all have their quirks and problems. OSX 10.5 Leopard treats me good.
    • zongamin, on 02/03/2008, -0/+2Did you click the link you cretin? It's guides on how to do things. Kill yourself you *****.
  • acmethunder, on 02/02/2008, -11/+26@maxpower2911, you obviously never actually used a Mac, have you?
    • Auzy, on 02/02/2008, -24/+31He hasn't, but I worked at an Apple reseller, and no offense, but I left because if it wasn't for all the FUD being spread by Apple, the only thing that is keeping them alive is their "pretty interface". They have so many weird bugs.

      Like the other day, my dads mail client set itself to offline mode, he didn't know how to deal with that. Maybe it was because Leopard mail crashes once a week, and safari crashes at least once a month for serious users (like I open up every digg page in tabs every morning). And Mail, at work like many other peoples, it NEVER closed for me. When you tried it close it, you needed to force kill it to get rid of it eventually.

      To be brutally honest, I'd say that Vista is as easy to use as Leopard these days. And yes, I'd say Vista is much more stable Application wise (but definately not fast for gaming). I know I'll get dugg down for saying it, but I tried OSX for 3 years, worked at a reseller, and tried Vista for 2 months (64bit version). My Dad can more easily use Vista then OSX. Vista is better for regular home usage.

      Part of the problem with Apple is stuff like their iphoto library. He couldn't find his photos easily to paste into an email. Because the iphoto library is a mess. In windows, its stored as it should be. Yes there are some things in OSX which are nice such as proper EFI support, which can make some things easier, and better upgrading process, but EFI will be properly supported in Vista SP1.

      Also, no offence to Apple, but if they keep up their "Mac OSX cant get viruses" attitude, and don't stop charging for every minor upgrade, the crap will hit the fan real fast in the future.

      If nobody believes me, go to an Apple reseller, and say "btw, I do a lot of browsing, and sometimes my safari crashes, about once a fortnight, I'm running Leopard and the latest updates. I've run the ram tests and they all passed (or any old Apple App, but safari is a good one)". Your response will probably be that its likely that your hardware is faulty, or that "there are small bugs in new releases" blah blah blah.

      If you want to guarentee a bad response, ask them if they have been any issues with Leopard server off the record. Off the record, you'll discover quickly, its not production ready (I know that as a fact, because we tried deploying it on 2 different networks, both had severe issues in almost every Apple based component. Of course

      Apple has bitten off more they can chew now. Its not fiction but fact. Steve said himself they had to redirect all their resources to the iphone department which slowed down leopard.

      And please phatt, many elements of their GUI don't make sense. Every GUI interface development course will use their traffic light buttons as an example of poor gui design, especially the isolated one which simplifies the windows. And yes, almost every customer which came into our store didn't understand the buttons fully. So really, thats just crock you heard from Apple's development team. The GUI, despite what ppl get told, is certainly NOT apple's strong point. Its actually other elements. Go ask your computer science teacher. The only thing Apple has done right GUI wise is drag and drop.

      In fact, Start menu is obvious to every user. But EVERY user, I need to explain how the dock properly works.

      And their Mighty mouse I think needs its own help site, because its so bad that it almost certainly ends up psychologically torturing its users.

      And for all those people saying that Mac OSX looks the best, Vista has movie desktops known as dreamscapes built in that look awesome. Linux has lots of random type stuff I wont get into built in too (like beryl) that can pretty it up. Both supports theming. OSX? Only themes you get are technically hacks to system resource files, and Apple doesn't encourage theming at all.

      Seeing i'm not a power digg user, theres no way I could ever bring this to attention unless I mention ubuntu, OSX, and steve jobs in the title, but someone like engadget really needs to properly compare the 3 of them. Because theres too much fud these days.
      • NeoSporin, on 02/02/2008, -4/+11You will probably get dugg down as with all valid points against something in a fanboy thread.
      • Phatt138, on 02/02/2008, -5/+7Way to get your axe-grind on there, Auzy. But I like the OS X interface after a lifetime of computer usage - not because of Apple's FUD which, I agree, is over-the-top in its self-congratulation
        .
        There are definitely some quirks in OS X. Window behavior is often odd and seemingly unstable compared to Windows; often preferences and window-size settings seem to waffle back and forth at random. Certain options and switches are buried in odd places, and menu organization can seem antithetical. Leopard definitely had a touchy start, though I've always managed to resolve any issues on my own. I'm not saying it's perfect - just that the OS X 'vision' is not immediately apparent when switching from Windows, but has a lot to offer the self-motivated learner.

        You've obviously got some problems with Leopard, and with Apple as a company. That's too bad. But don't tell me how I formed my opinions, freund. I prefer OS X because it works better for me. Jobs and his politics have no more to do with me liking OS X than Ballmer's "Developers!" warcry has to do with you liking Vista.
      • Angostura, on 02/02/2008, -5/+12I'm a long time Mac user You make some interesting points, so I'll go through them. I've also tried supporting my 80-something parents on Windows and OS X..

        "Like the other day, my dads mail client set itself to offline mode, he didn't know how to deal with that."
        Yes, not the most intuitive behavior. Daft, I would say.

        "Maybe it was because Leopard mail crashes once a week" I'm a serious Mail user with multiple IMAP and POP accounts and 10s of thousands of e-mail in my inboxes. I haven't had a crash yet.

        " and safari crashes at least once a month for serious users (like I open up every digg page in tabs every morning). "

        Yes Safari does seem flaky at the moment.

        And Mail, at work like many other peoples, it NEVER closed for me. When you tried it close it, you needed to force kill it to get rid of it eventually. "

        I've had the problem with laggy closes once or twice in the last month.

        "To be brutally honest, I'd say that Vista is as easy to use as Leopard these days. "

        My parents find OS X easier, the fact that the 4 or 5 programs they want sit in the Dock and the way that iPhoto lets them easily import photos and e-mail them makes it a snap. The fact that they had to choose 'start' to shutdown used to confuse the hell out of them.

        "Part of the problem with Apple is stuff like their iphoto library. He couldn't find his photos easily to paste into an email. Because the iphoto library is a mess. In windows, its stored as it should be."

        This is without doubt the biggest misconception in your message and shows where you just 'don't get' the Mac way. iPhoto acts as a photo database, you might as well argue that Oracle is crap because you can't use DOS find the file where it stores a particular record. You want to e-mail a photo? click the e-mail button in iPhoto. I would argue that iPhoto stores them 'as they should be' - in a proper structure with meta data stored against each photo - not in a DOS hierarchy.

        Also, no offence to Apple, but if they keep up their "Mac OSX cant get viruses" attitude, and don't stop charging for every minor upgrade, the crap will hit the fan real fast in the future.

        Straw man. Apple has never said Mac OSX cant get viruses. Sensible users don't say that either. They do say that there aren't any in the wild yet and that the OS is intrinsically more resistant.

        "If nobody believes me, go to an Apple reseller, and say "btw, I do a lot of browsing, and sometimes my safari crashes, about once a fortnight, I'm running Leopard and the latest updates. I've run the ram tests and they all passed (or any old Apple App, but safari is a good one)". Your response will probably be that its likely that your hardware is faulty, or that "there are small bugs in new releases" blah blah blah. "

        My response is that Safari is pretty flaky at the moment. Hopefully this month's 10.5.2 (free) will fix.

        If you want to guarentee a bad response, ask them if they have been any issues with Leopard server off the record. Off the record, you'll discover quickly, its not production ready (I know that as a fact, because we tried deploying it on 2 different networks, both had severe issues in almost every Apple based component. Of course

        Yup, server's not ready.


        And please phatt, many elements of their GUI don't make sense. Every GUI interface development course will use their traffic light buttons as an example of poor gui design, especially the isolated one which simplifies the windows. And yes, almost every customer which came into our store didn't understand the buttons fully.

        The green traffic light button is a long term bit of stupid GUI design.

        "So really, thats just crock you heard from Apple's development team. The GUI, despite what ppl get told, is certainly NOT apple's strong point. Its actually other elements. Go ask your computer science teacher. The only thing Apple has done right GUI wise is drag and drop. "

        Sorry - I thought you said that the interface was the only thing keeping them alive.

        "In fact, Start menu is obvious to every user. But EVERY user, I need to explain how the dock properly works."

        See counter example above.

        "And their Mighty mouse I think needs its own help site, because its so bad that it almost certainly ends up psychologically torturing its users."

        My kids, wife, parents have never expressed any problems. Now the old hockey-puck mouse - that sucked.

        • Auzy, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1"Straw man. Apple has never said Mac OSX cant get viruses. Sensible users don't say that either. They do say that there aren't any in the wild yet and that the OS is intrinsically more resistant."
          http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/. Check them.. They certainly push the wrong impression

          Also, theres a bug in Firefox + digg, it just wiped my post everything past the Hash symbol. Thanks Kevin.
          • MacParrot, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1OK, checked the virus one. Mac states that last year there were 144,000 viruses in the wild for PCs (true when the ad aired) and none for the Mac. If you mean they imply that Macs can't get viruses (statistically ridiculous), that may be true but it's an ad. Ads should never be taken at face value.
          • PathDaemon, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Hash? It must have thought you were commenting that part out.

            P.S. the next line is my own test of this behavior:
            # if you can read this "hash" symbols haven't affected my comment posting
        • birdieb23, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1You are right apart from apart the traffic lights. I use both OSX and XP, and I probably prefer OSX but theres actually not that much difference. I don't think theres anything wrong with the GUI on OSX's windows, and the the lights are pretty self explanatory. Red - close, Amber - minimize, Green - Open up and thats pretty much what they do.
      • tapo, on 02/02/2008, -0/+4While I also hate iPhoto, how is it had to understand where images are stored? You just drag them to the desktop and attach (if not dragging into the Mail client itself).
        • Angostura, on 02/02/2008, -0/+4He's trying to rummage around inside the library on the disk, rather than through the iPhoto interface.
        • tapo, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Secondly, you only get Vista's 'Dreamscene' if you own Vista Ultimate, and download it, something freeware has given OS X for years. When I had a Mac, I used Backlight: http://osxdaily.com/2006/12/02/backlight-screensav ...
        • Tippis, on 02/02/2008, -0/+4The problem is that it involves an extra needless step: pulling the images out of iPhoto. If you want to manipulate your images directly in some other program, you can't just open that program and go to work on the photos folder(s) -- you're *forced* to use iPhoto.
          If you want to use other programs, you can't really use iPhoto at the same time for the tasks *it* does well (sorting and categorising, mainly).

          Basically, while iPhoto, in and of itself, is quite handy, it doesn't play along well if you want to use a variety of different programs together for various purposes (say, special camera software for importing; PS for editing; iPhoto for mass management; and something for photo playback). iPhoto only really plays nice with Front Row, and even then, it's only *nice:ish*
        • webbunny, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Most OSX applications support the "Media Browser" which allows you to get to your music, movies and PHOTOS without having to open iPhoto. Mail utilises this in a fantastic way, MUCH easier than browsing for it on your disk.

          Just thought you should know.
    • ryan83189, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2You've probably never used a reply button. Have you?
  • ZephyrNinety, on 02/02/2008, -10/+23...I had no problem going from Windows to Linux to Mac, if you do, just stop using electricity.
    • ispeakasian, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2but ... what about my refrigerator?
  • fartbuttes, on 02/02/2008, -13/+2Step 1: Become an hero
    • fwertz, on 02/02/2008, -2/+3Step 2: Become intuitive with your keyboard.
      • troye, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Step 3: Learn how to simulate using 5 buttons on the Mighty mouse.
        • techresearcher, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1Step 4: Stop creating crappy Digg usernames like fartbuttes (see parent comment).
    • TheUnlearn, on 02/03/2008, -0/+0this isn't 4chan asshats.
  • daemon, on 02/02/2008, -8/+31Is Apple growing up to a scale where they can't do one-on-one training sessions anymore?
    • kahrytan, on 02/02/2008, -10/+5Apple Store, moron. There is group sessions at the stores so people can get help
    • wettap, on 02/02/2008, -3/+6i dunno... I recently ordered a MAC online, and I look forward to not wasting my time at an Apple store at the Mall of America (90 miles away) when I can get a lot of the same info online. Plus I know a few Mac aficionados who wouldn't mind lending a hand.
      • Angostura, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2discussions.apple.com has a very useful user-driven support board.
      • MacParrot, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2Also, find out if there is a local Apple user's group in your area
        http://www.apple.com/usergroups/find/
        User groups can save you a lot of time and money over going to Apple Stores if there isn't one nearby
      • arizonagroove, on 02/02/2008, -2/+3"I recently ordered a MAC online,"

        MAC = Media Access Control. As in MAC address of your network card.

        Mac = generic term for computers made by Apple Inc.
        • wettap, on 02/02/2008, -2/+0Sorry... I always use capital letters for MAC. I work in anesthesia, and it can mean either Monitored Anesthesia Care or Minimum Alveolar Concentration. My mistake.
    • thomas, on 02/02/2008, -0/+5If you watch the videos a lot of them also point out that you can get one on one help at the store.
  • 4d669, on 02/02/2008, -19/+10How can Steve Jobs sleep at night? Bill Gates saved his company from going bankrupt in 1997 and now a little over a decade later, he focuses the future of his company on destroying his. Talk about bitting the hand that feeds.
    • OUChevelleSS, on 02/02/2008, -6/+4Mr. Ballmer?! That you??
    • Karzyn, on 02/02/2008, -3/+3You used the pronoun "his" too much in one sentence and as such one can only guess at what you are trying to say.
    • Audacitor, on 02/02/2008, -4/+7Um... Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are hardly enemies. More like old friends than anything else. They just happen to be competitors in the market. Besides, I'm sure Jobs would do the exact same thing for MS if they were in the same position Apple was in years ago.
      • jabberwolf, on 02/02/2008, -6/+5True but Jobs tries to stand on the shoulders of people like Woz and raise his products on pretty much lies and diggs at windows.

        Gates could give a rats ass about Jobs. At least Gates can understand programming. Jobs cant - he just does marketing.
        • Nossie, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2Not true... Google and apple just need to fart and Microsoft is trying to cash in on knock off farts

          I'm sure gates probably hardly cares now he is retired but I bet Ballmer (sp???) is not amused his company cant get the same buzz that macworld expo gets
    • automate, on 02/02/2008, -3/+1what does that have to do with business? Microsoft is not going bankrupt, is it?
    • cfulp, on 02/02/2008, -0/+8It was an investment. Microsoft made a bundle selling the apples shares, not to mention how much they made after introducing office to macs (which happened around the same time).
    • node3, on 02/02/2008, -2/+4MS's money didn't save Apple. Apple had *billions* in the bank at the time. The money (actually an investment) was part of an agreement which included Apple dropping their lawsuit against MS, a cross-licensing agreement, and a commitment to Office for the Mac.
  • elitistmusician, on 02/02/2008, -15/+7What's a desktop?

    How could I think of that shiny thing in space as an ACTUAL desktop?!
    • Audacitor, on 02/02/2008, -2/+2The fact that it's sitting on a desk kinda weighed heavily in our decision to call it such.
    • Ireland, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2What's a desktop?

      I'd bet 25% of middle aged (or older) parents on this planet doesn't know the real answer to that?
    • ispeakasian, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1It's the top of a desk. duhh
  • harkondo, on 02/02/2008, -7/+12Fantastic. I've been looking at Mac's recently and was hesitant about learning the ins and outs.
    • PabloMac, on 02/02/2008, -10/+6Stop hesitating and get one. You won't be sorry, and you won't look back. Ask any of us "fanboys" for advice and we'll happily help out.
      • adooga, on 02/02/2008, -10/+4Thanks, but I think I'll just stay home and inject myself with the plague.
        • ophello, on 02/02/2008, -3/+7oh how clever. let us know when you pull your head out of your ass.
    • cfulp, on 02/02/2008, -5/+8It's really not has hard as everyone is making it out. There is a learning curve, coming from windows. But, you'll know all the ends and outs without a week.
      • Philbert, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1I don't think difficulty is so much the problem. Although I did (for some reason) look at one in a store display and couldn't make heads or tails of it.
  • MackPrime, on 02/02/2008, -17/+7this'll be a good help

    for your BOYFRIENDS

    amiriite
    • Ireland, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4If you are speaking to all the Mac using women on digg, then yes you are. However if you are insinuating that mac users are gay for using a Mac then I suggest you grow up, and then go about getting a clue.
  • mpeters13, on 02/02/2008, -15/+14How to: Burn down your house: Buy macbook pro, use magsafe adapter for year and half. Burn down house. Spend $86 and repeat.
    • node3, on 02/02/2008, -6/+4To be fair, that *is* a valid question for former Sony & Dell owners. I guess some things *are* easier with PCs after all.
    • Kyan, on 02/02/2008, -1/+3Is this an inside joke? I admit I don't get it?
      • Markok765, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2I think it's about the exploding sony batteries.
        • ispeakasian, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2no no magsafe adapters wear out after about a year and a half. usually they start to fray and sometimes they catch on fire. mine sure did. i just got it replaced last week.
  • 4LeggedtriPod, on 02/02/2008, -10/+13Perfect Timing. Just bought my first Macbook today.
    • Ocelot13, on 02/02/2008, -13/+3man i wish i could give you a high five! isnt that what mac owners do to each other?
      • UKsHaDoW, on 02/02/2008, -2/+4At least were friendly unlike you
        • ophello, on 02/02/2008, -1/+3if you actually tried that, id punch you in the face for being a presumptuous bastard
      • LastDitchHero, on 02/02/2008, -2/+2They actually go around sniffing each other's farts
    • Philbert, on 02/02/2008, -10/+1That's your fault, don't complain to us about it.
  • dagamer34, on 02/02/2008, -5/+16Even though I've had a Mac for a year, there are still a few things I constantly find myself wishing I had from the Windows OS. Examples:

    1) Restoring a file to it's original location after it's been put into the Trash.
    2) Cut & Paste (or perhaps Copy & Delete would be more accurate for filesystem reasons).
    3) Ability to directly type a filesystem address in the path bar in Leopard's Finder.
    4) Hibernate (draws NO power compared to Apple's sleep function)
    5) Notification system built directly into the OS (i.e. Growl) - more developers would support a function if it weren't a 3rd party app.
    • tadunne, on 02/02/2008, -2/+91) agreed
      2) Not really a problem, but I can see the need for the option
      3) Clicking on Go menu -> go does the same thing?
      4) The sleep feature in current laptops can draw no power. When you sleep it suspends both to disk and ram so if the battery is removed you can still wake from sleep when a power source is found. How this works can be changed, but I guess a pref pane would help.
      5) Good idea!
    • Angostura, on 02/02/2008, -2/+12) Is actually there now - selecting an item in Finder and copying and pasting to another location works fine.
      4) As Tadunne says, this is now a setting on the laptops. I'm not a laptop user, but I seem to recall that the Mac will invoke 'safe sleep' when battery power gets low - so normally it uses a normal sleep, but will dump to disk if things get serious. If you want to manually invoke safe sleep (hibernate) there is a widget: http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/developer ...
      Hope that's helpful.
      • Gogogo111, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3Cut & Paste is not Copy & Paste.
        • tadunne, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1While I admit cut and paste is a nice feature. I don't miss is at all. Dragging and dropping and thinks like spring loaded folders are better.
    • Philbert, on 02/02/2008, -14/+5Wow I didn't know Apple was lacking all of those things, now I want one even less.
      • ophello, on 02/02/2008, -1/+3are those features really so important that they make or break a computer? i find that hard to believe.
      • sudowrestler, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1As if Windows had *any* kind of system-wide notification.
    • Tippis, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1I also lubs me age-old keyboard-driven menu navigation. The mouse is just so much slower than Alt-keying your way to some menu command. :(
      QS alleviates the problem somewhat, but in a very round-about and app-specific way, and it would still be handy to et it right in the OS.
    • UKsHaDoW, on 02/02/2008, -2/+2I think dragging the file to where you want does the same as cut paste ;)
      Pretty much everything on mac can be done dragging and dropping. Since thats how next worked.
      • corpski, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2Still not fast enough. For some users who work really fast with a keyboard, if say, you want to cut a file and paste it to a folder 2 levels up, in Windows XP, you'd simply press:

        ctrl-X
        backspace
        backspace
        ctrl-V
        (less than 2 seconds total time)

        With OS X, you'd have to open another window showing the second location, make sure that part of the destination window is visible, then drag and drop the said file to the partially or wholly visible target window while minding your cursor. If OS X simply had a "cut" command built-in (filecutter still doesn't do it fast enough as anything done with a mouse is usually slower than when done on a keyboard), you could simply press CMD-up, CMD-up, CMD-V and everyone would be happy.
    • lonewalker, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1actually i find drag and drop with modifier keys will do the job (shift, cmd, ctrl) i cant remember which is which but try it out the icons will change as the keys are held when the files are being dragged. you can drag and and hold it over a folder and the folder will open and you can drop it in a folder inside the first folder (as an eg.)
  • Kanna, on 02/02/2008, -29/+20What happened to "It just works?"
    • Kazrog, on 02/02/2008, -17/+18It does. However, Windows users need their brains descrambled, as they aren't used to the simplicity of - gasp - drag and drop to install an application. Windows users are accustomed to having to outsmart their computers every day.

      Macs "just work" however, Windows users don't.
      • cfulp, on 02/02/2008, -8/+11Not sure why your being dug down. Everything you said was correct. coming from windows I had no idea how to install a program in OSX. I was very surprised to find out it was just a drag and drop install.
      • tadunne, on 02/02/2008, -3/+9"Windows users need their brains descrambled"

        Yoda said it best: "you must unlearn what you have learnt"


    • pathy, on 02/02/2008, -10/+8Attention:

      If you find running an installer complicated and/or difficult, please consider a switch to a Mac.

      Let them deal with *****.
      • thebigsix, on 02/02/2008, -3/+3There's a reason why Macs only comprise 0.3% of the market; nobody wants to use that POS.
    • blackjack75, on 02/02/2008, -4/+18Most of those videos are just tutorials on how to use iPhoto, iWork and alike. They are not troubleshooting videos. "It just works" doesn't mean "It reads my mind and does it alone while I click on random icons and buttons."
      • chancelcc, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2I was thinking the same thing, but there is no way I could have said it as perfectly!
    • catachip, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4"It just works", refers to the fact that it works out of the box, has all the software you'd need right from the get go and that most peripherals you plug in don't need driver disks. The Mac does not respond to voice commands, such as "create my thesis report", nor does it read minds or work without electricity. Please consider marketing slogans with a grain of salt.
  • ddrirc, on 02/02/2008, -4/+5If only they'd make their screenshot commands intuitive...
    • blackjack75, on 02/02/2008, -1/+7Well.. choose your own:
      Preferences => Keyboard => Shortcuts.
    • Markok765, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1Apple+Shift+3

      The screenshot goes on the desktop
    • Ireland, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Yeah, why didn't they use F5 & F6 for that.
    • Gneekman, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1The app Skitch from plasq works great for quick screenshots - fullscreen, single-window, timed...
  • brianbb98, on 02/02/2008, -10/+5I think Macs are great. I, like millions of other people, used them throughout my years in school. I've just gotten so used to a PC to go Apple.
    • roberto_deneero, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1dude, it's a mouse and a screen...how freakin hard is it to migrate back? seriously. it aint rocket science.
    • zongamin, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Are you stupid or something? Stick with windows you lazy tosser.
  • tacotruck08, on 02/02/2008, -7/+2Love this! Can't wait to indulge!
  • jer2eydevil88, on 02/02/2008, -1/+8Wow! adblock removes informationweek.com images to the point where the site is nothing but text... it improves the site so much that its faster than ever!
  • AlienMushroom, on 02/21/2008, -7/+1Steve has finally realized it.
  • Harbinger67, on 02/02/2008, -20/+23Ooo! Does it have online classes on being a pretentious douchebag while sitting in Starbucks and enjoying a drink with more words in the name than your "novel" has in its first chapter?
    • cfulp, on 02/02/2008, -7/+17Do you enjoy being a corporate drone with no sense of individuality? See, I can go to the extreme too! Stupidity knows no bounds.
    • 8KROM, on 02/02/2008, -9/+8Actually it does!!! I just got my BS in Douchebaggery from AU.. Steve Jobs signed it..Then I had to give him a blow job, but it was totally worth it!! I can't wait to glue it to the front of my Mac Book Air so everyone can see it while I am at Starbucks drinking a Venti Skinny Double Americano and working on my newest book.. "Digg for Douchebags" Yeah.. its cool.. Don't worry.. if you say hi to me in Starbucks.. I'll tell you all about it
      • DarkDx, on 02/02/2008, -3/+3Lol, I don't know why you're getting dugg down but that was a hilarous post.
    • node3, on 02/02/2008, -2/+17Yes, there's a "how to be a pretentious douchebag" guide for the average former PC user. For the PC users who jump into Mac forums and threads calling Mac users "Starbucks-drinking, ignorant, pretentious douchebags", no such guide is necessary.
    • Angostura, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1No. Why?
    • Philbert, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4BTW I sit in a Starbucks working on my Hewlett-Packard PC laptop for a couple hours every day with my Half-Caf Grande Cinnamon Dolce Latte. Apple doesn't need Starbucks to be pretentious.
    • mizike, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Not yet, did you find the guide that comes with Ubuntu "How to: Remove that last bit of natural light from your mom's basement" helpful?

      stereotypes are awesome!!
    • RyGonWan, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Yeah, but it's just a hyperlink to this comment.
  • troseph, on 02/02/2008, -9/+3Taking a page from the Ubuntu book.
  • fwertz, on 02/02/2008, -10/+4Funny. They create videos to sway windows users, but don't have the mentality to do it in a windows native format. Not that I have anything against apple, that's just stupid marketing. Essentially it's like trying to convince immigrants to come to your country, but not doing it in their native language.
  • timbo458, on 02/02/2008, -6/+5When I got into computers some twenty years ago Apple computers were predicted to be in every school in the country because they were so user friendly (an idiot could operate it),no one dreamed the PC platform would last. While I've read and heard great things about OSX is it so difficult that you need a tutorial? All Windows consisted of was a colorful GUI tacked onto DOS (OH, the good old days) If Gates had worked on a truly original OS he'd probably have it right by now, with about thirty or forty service packs,charging a fee for each sp and he would probably still be a billionaire and us PC lovers would have a good working OS.
  • rstarr, on 02/02/2008, -11/+2Off topic: Is gmail down for anyone else right now?
    • node3, on 02/02/2008, -1/+8Off topic: Is the above post dugg down for anyone else right now?
  • heystoopid, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4Quick send for that Nigerian Geek squad run by a five year old girl for given her talent they will soon be able to fix all iMac problems asap ! :)
  • chubbybubba, on 02/02/2008, -11/+7The more windows users turn to macs... the more Apple becomes M$.
  • tanveer, on 02/02/2008, -4/+5just in time too. i just got my first mac, four days ago. this should come in handy
  • camehoe, on 02/02/2008, -4/+4Yay!
    Now i can direct the customers at work that i am only a sales person, not a fricken tutor who wants to waste her precious commission making time.
  • adooga, on 02/02/2008, -4/+4Oh come on, if you can't find your way around a mac you should just use a pen and paper.
  • houndeyex, on 02/02/2008, -5/+3MACOLYTES
  • digg4rob, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1I was concerned when I read this but having just watched 'Anatomy of a Mac' I'm reassured that they've retained the same calm, clear, common sense approach to communicating about Mac products, right down to the in-store Genius!
  • 4LeggedtriPod, on 02/02/2008, -0/+4Why are all of the Diggers complimenting this being Dugg down?
    • tapo, on 02/02/2008, -0/+6I don't know. I guess there's still the image of the foaming-at-the-mouth, elitist Apple fanboy that Digg users are trying to attack. Thus the comments of "WHAT DO U SAY NOW GUYZ, U SAID IT JUST WORKSS!!!11"

      You'd think that Mac vs PC fanboyism would be dead by now.
      • 4LeggedtriPod, on 02/02/2008, -0/+4You think Fanboyism in general should be dead by now. Like or hate something for a reason not because it's cool to do.
  • chrisinsocalif, on 02/02/2008, -7/+1How do you get to the website if you don't know how to use a computer?
  • z28com, on 02/02/2008, -3/+5What's cool is how I can use Parallels and run both Vista and XP ont he same machine, IF I FEEL LIKE IT. And it runs FAST!
  • goldwish, on 02/02/2008, -6/+1
    Wow! adblock removes informationweek.com images to the point where the site is nothing but text... it improves the site so much that its faster than ever!
  • cyberghost232, on 02/02/2008, -2/+9How about making it so i can afford one. Seriously. I dont care about the hardware. I just want the OS and not some hacked pirated ***** that doesn't work half the time. I would gladly pay anywhere up to $400 if I could run it on the box I have now along side my windows install.
    • dacomputerfreak, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3Fat chance on that happening anytime soon. Could it happen? yes! Will it happen? no.
  • WilyOne, on 02/02/2008, -9/+5Macs are _very_ intuitive! For a demo, just press Option-Shift-Command-F9-LeftArrow+D. ;)
    • troye, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1I thought that was funny, but the fanbois got you. Right now you have -5 diggs. Maybe some more of them will get you.
    • dacomputerfreak, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Now that's funny! dugg up. (I'm a Mac user too) People need to go with the flow and take a joke.
  • Philbert, on 02/02/2008, -2/+3The only way they could sway me would be with competitive prices and decent software selection. I doubt we'll see the former any time soon and they really don't have much control over the latter.
  • rgrcabbage, on 02/02/2008, -3/+2I'm not a Mac person, although I troubleshoot Macs for an elementary building. These guides are great for end-users who are unfamiliar with the differences between a Mac and a PC. Short, to the point, and easily followed on their own desktops. Apple has done well with the gimmicks, now only if their hardware would follow pace.
  • goldwish, on 02/02/2008, -8/+1
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  • marffa, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3
    just in time too. i just got my first mac, four days ago. this should come in handy
  • heavystone, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1Its not a site, its just a section on their already existing site....ffs.
  • UKsHaDoW, on 02/02/2008, -1/+3When I got my first mac about 3 weeks ago, it took me about a hour of fiddling to work out how it works. Some people are saying its taking them weeks?
    • NellyG, on 02/02/2008, -6/+0This is the funniest thing I read today. No wonder you folks need a website to learn how to use these contraptions.
    • lkms, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1yes this is apple's standard userbase.
  • Optimaximal, on 02/02/2008, -12/+3How to right click in Mac OSX:

    - 1. You can't
    • UKsHaDoW, on 02/02/2008, -0/+52: You can.

      On my macbookpro, put two fingers on the trackpad and click.
    • colonels1020, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2Wow, are you just ***** stupid? The mighty mouse has been able to right click for years now.
    • Marcone, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3Right click as been around for mac since the original OSX.
    • sudowrestler, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3Even for a 13 year old you should be able to do better than that.
    • dacomputerfreak, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1What a retard. My Logitech USB mouse bought at a very reasonable price from Newegg (under $25) does great. I'm not sure why Mac users think you have to use a nice but quite pricey "mighty mouse" when any mouse works fine, with right-click functionality.
    • leemarvin, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1I use an 8 button mouse my Mac.
    • TwistedSilver, on 02/04/2008, -0/+1you just got owned.
  • phoomp, on 02/02/2008, -2/+1How to:

    Buy iLife
    Buy .Mac
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