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- zephc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26"I think they should call it the 'MOBILE MAC 3000 MEDIA COMMUNICATIONS HAND HELD TOUCH CENTRE'."
Do you work for Microsoft's Product Marketing Division? - billydisaster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25Maybe they'll just put a removable sticker on the outside of the packaging. Seemed to work for that other company.
- anagoge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21MM3MCHHTC is the sound I made when I heard the price tag.
- PiGuy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25It's also 6 months before the product is released and half the icons don't actually do anything. This article contains only useless speculation.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21If not, they should name it the IPHN to spite that ***** motorola line.
- idean360, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I bet they end up with it anyway.
- ZaNkY, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15That "other" company was Cisco. When they trademarked "iPhone" they had to show that they were using it, so they slapped an iPhone sticker onto some existing VoIP phone product box.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/cisco-might-have-lost-iphone-trademark-in-06/
This "iPhone" name thing is starting to turn into a soap opera. - Caiman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Yeah, but don't let on, that's the name of our iPhone killer that Bill's announcing in June. *****, I'm in for it now.
- Pulp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Can't something be said for them promoting it as the "iPhone"?
- ersnyder, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14(Shift Option K - Phone)
Phone....
No idea if you windows users can see that... - ArcticCelt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8They should simply strengthen the iPod trademark and call it the iPod Phone.
(they can also find some fancy word ala nano that will mean phone) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Yep. I just googled "Iphone specs" and got this.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/specs.html
Whoops. Somebodys innacurate - raleedy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Phune?
- emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6¿phone?
- nullview, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Segway
- Caiman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's a subliminal thing, short for Microsoft's Ancillary Cellphone, but we were hoping because it looks like an Apple product name in the midst of our overall product name that some people might be fooled into thinking our product was cool. Yeah!!!
- corsairstw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5People shouldn't even be discussing this. Of COURSE it's going to be called the iPhone. If there were any doubt, then Apple would have said something like they did with the iTV about how it's a code name, or they haven't locked down the final name yet.
I'm 100% certain they're keeping iPhone. - swiftekho, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7EyePhone
- ccanni1028, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Also, see comment #2 on the site which has also been brought up here and other places.
Even if Cisco didn't lose their trademark by not actually having a product in time, they should lose it for not aggressively protecting the name. They are going after Apple for a cell phone when there is nothing about them going after http://iPhone.com , which is a company using the name for another VOIP phone (what Cisco is using it for).
Also, the only place that Cisco is even mentioned is on the first page of the Google search in a sponsored ad. It's not even mentioned on MSN's or Y!'s first page results for "iPhone".
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=iPhone&btnG=Google+Search
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=iPhone&FORM=MSNH
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=iPhone&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8 - mediaphile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@ersnyder:
i'm a mac user and not even i see it. - darkyoshi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3These days, it would be something like the "Plaz" (random string of characters with Z in it) or "Live Phone" (what the product is + Live)
- jmreid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3iPhod
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3>Well it's the truth, isn't it?
Yes. - aiken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow. Company hedges its bets on actual name of product not scheduled to be launched for six months, and which is currently the subject of a legal dispute. Shocking! That merits the front page of Digg, surely!
- NoTreason4, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7
You windows fanboys can dig the comment down as much as you want because its not hostile to Apple, but Se1zure is right: Cisco has probably lost the trademark anyway.
They did not deliver a product using the iPhone name within the alloted 6 years, and so the trademark lapsed last year. Furthermore, there is more brand awareness of an "Apple iPhone" than a "Cisco iPhone" and thus Apple wins the trademark battle, as the trademark belongs to the company that first builds a product brand around it.
I'm hopeful that Apple will change the name of the iPhone-- as its a new platform, and unless they are going to make the iPod and the iMac into touchscreen driven devices, the new platform should have a new name-- and not the name of one of its features. - zephc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Yeah, but don't let on, that's the name of our iPhone killer that Bill's announcing in June. *****, I'm in for it now."
You're using 'Mac' in your upcoming MS product name? :-O - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Question mark Phone?
- t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3>Well it's the truth, isn't it?
No. - cbergeron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3True.
They probably either:
a) pulled the stunt they did with the iTV by calling it the "Apple Phone", so they can avoid future litigation (iSomething is pretty ubiquitous these days)
and b) are calling Cisco's bluff by letting them knoow that they have the upper hand and they could easily just switch names.
Pretty brilliant strategic business move IMHO. Either way, Apple wins.
Let's hope that both these kids agree to play nicely together, so that Apple and Cisco both win without anyone getting punched in the face. - cbergeron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It was interesting, none-the-less... and somewhat relevant. I digged it.
- unloud, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Since around that time was when Apple first approached cisco, it's obvious that cisco was simply trying to use a trademark they had no interest in before to force Apple to give them a piece of the pie. It's practically extortion, since Cisco wasn't using the trademark with any products until then, and it was only days before their trademark were to have expired that they posted the picture of the box with a sticker on it.
- se1zure, on 10/12/2007, -14/+15Cisco may have lost their trademark anyways.
- applesuxLeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No third-party apps. No Skype. Dead battery and no way to swap out.David Pogue of NYT used it and said hard to type on and call quality sucked. Isn`t that the primary function of a phone???
Just name it Newton 2.0 and be done with it. Announcing this "phone" early has backfired on them already. The RDF has worn off and Mac experts are even having second thoughts ;( - zephc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3for those who can't see it, it's the type character for the Apple logo.
@mediaphile: unless you're using weird browser fonts, you should see the Apple logo there, even in Firefox (I'd assume) - jonshipman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I see it ersnyder, I think you have to be on a mac and have Safari set to Unicode encoding. Default in the US is Western.
- SVPirate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I feel a John C Dvorak moment coming on...
"Oh brother. Does anyone really care, I know I don't!" - chicbicyclist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2iCel or Mac Cel, Apple Cel
- TripinVA, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ersnyder:
I'm in Swiftfox 2.0 under Linux and I see the Euro symbol. - vprice509, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It could be called the BitchTurd and still sell sell sell...
- Fengpost, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Newton II
I wish..... - PsychoPNut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wasn't even aware Cisco was messing with 'em.
- rawheadrex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@EagleTG:
J-Phone = Jesus Phone. You know, second coming and all that. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They should call it the iPorn. I'm sure it will sell like crazy.
- geekdreams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Apple Pi (Phone + iPod)
- NoTreason4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1
OS X is the operating system. Macintosh is the hardware, or the UI.
I think the real reason they didn't say "macintosh" or "mac os X" is that the new UI is going to get a name, like Macintosh. They wanted us to know that its runnign the same core operating system, but they havent' yet come up with the platform name. (The Mac part).... I'm sure when they do it will be "Pod OS X" or whatever.
The slide that said "OS X" on it in the keynote listed a lot of common OS X frameworks. I'm amazed at the number of people who have siad that it isn't really running OS X. Or do you think they decided to just duplicate all the heavy living UI frameworks from OS X for the new UI, instead of (at worst) porting them to a new CPU? - inferno10, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The Xphone, kinda like their Xserve naming scheme.
- MacMan88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1iPHN. moto-style.
- tmcdigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1want to really piss cisco off.. make it:
i (pod) phone
this really gets at what the device is.. internet, ipod, phone device but I like parentheses because it still allows for the OFFICIAL name to be called ipod phone, but people will call it iphone nonetheless, thus making the trademark cisco MAY or may not have MOOT. companies have done this before... but at 5 am peeps my mind isn't working that well to think of examples.. you can reply with some though.. - undersky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1lPhone (lower case of L)
- Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I always thought they were dropping the iProduct naming scheme and going with the MacProduct (or ProductMac) naming scheme. I wouldn't be surprised if the final name for the product turned out to be MacPhone or MobileMac.
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