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- atdigg, on 01/18/2008, -16/+143You can buy 6 Eees for the price of one Air
- beerbarron, on 01/18/2008, -21/+131Ok would you compare a mini cooper s and a smart car? Ok they are the same size, but thats where it ends. In the case of the eee and the air, the air wins hands down on technology, but it doesn't revolutionize the market like the eee does. I think the air would be great for professionals wanting portability, and style, whilst giving them the option to create designs on the go. Where the eee, is awesome for education and consumers.
- ShazerFox, on 01/18/2008, -14/+119I'm not understanding how something with the same footprint, albeit a few tenths of an inch thinner, is somehow suddenly "ultraportable".
Eee PC = true portability - inactive, on 01/18/2008, -44/+99Sorry Apple, you fail.
Digg me down baby! I use the power to summon the undead! - edstate, on 01/18/2008, -5/+56Right-o. And that's where the Apple Air fails: IT'S NOT AN ULTRA-PORTABLE! It's footprint is *almost* that of the 15" MacBookPro. That is way, WAY too big to be what you *want* it to be. Sorry Apple.
Make the same thing 11", and $999 and you'll sell a ZILLION. - flux1, on 01/18/2008, -10/+59The Air's target market seems to be rich people that want to show off their expensive laptop. If a professional wants to use an Apple computer, for a little more they can get a much more capable Macbook Pro. If the Air's specs are ok for them, they can save quite a bit by just getting a Macbook which is still more expandable than the Air and faster at the default config. Apple seems to not care about portability for the professional market anymore. If they did there would be a 12 inch Macbook Pro for sale.
- IndigoMoss, on 01/18/2008, -7/+42Exactly, this laptop is pretty much for the snobby people that like to go into Starbucks with their Manila Folder case, and pull out a laptop out of it to make them feel better about themselves. While thin, it's still the same size as a normal notebook, just without out the pretty much necessary equipment such as Ethernet and optical drive.
It's a cool concept, but if they wanted to skimp on all of those features to make it thinner, why not make it smaller too? To me it just seems like a waste of perfectly good technology. - flux1, on 01/18/2008, -4/+34Asus will be selling larger batteries for the EEE soon. I doubt it will give you 5 full hours, but at least you can buy two and swap them out when one runs out of power, unlike the Air.
- inactive, on 01/18/2008, -1/+30Volume isn't going to help someone fit it into a smaller bag though.
- totorototoro, on 01/18/2008, -6/+33Two different target markets/users. The whole idea of the Eee is that its small, portable, and really inexpensive. And it made compromises on screen size/quality, and keyboard functionality. The whole idea of Air is that its really thin, really light, and really expensive. And it didn't compromise on the screen size/quality, or keyboard functionality. If you can live with a substandard screen and keyboard (and limited storage), then you would never pick the Air. If you don't want to compromise on screen size and keyboard, and love using OSX, you would never pick the Eee.
- desistere, on 01/18/2008, -7/+33The main reason the Air is getting flack right now is because it doesn't fit right. It's priced with Macbook, but aspires to be as portable as the EEE. The comparison isn't really a fair one, because the Air is much closer to a desktop replacement while the EEE is the ultimate in portability. The Air doesn't really make sense as a workhorse when you look at how great the Macbook is. The EEE doesn't really make sense as a full-time laptop.
- troydoogle7, on 01/18/2008, -3/+28Actually based on Prices you are looking at comparing a golf cart with a ford
- IndigoMoss, on 01/18/2008, -4/+28And you can buy 4 PS3's. Not 3, but 4 PS3s.
- avocadobeandip, on 01/18/2008, -7/+30For the love of God, please stop comparing the two! They're not even remotely supposed to be competitors. Sure they're both small, but the Eee PC is no where near as powerful. The Air is a Full-fledged Macintosh computer (and don't give me any ***** about it missing a port here or there or no optical drive - Apple was making a statement about the necessity of those things in our wireless world and left them out intentionally). It has 80 GB of hard drive space, to I don't know, store music, videos, Photoshop documents, etc.The Eee Pc tops out at what now? 8? For most people, that amount of disk space is a joke.
So please, stop comparing the two. They're both remarkable computers that are on entirely different ends of the price spectrum, and deserved to be discussed individually. JUST STOP COMPARING THE TWO. It makes you sound retarded. - yetAnotherCroc, on 01/18/2008, -2/+24no but you will have plenty of cash still in your pocket after you buy the one you will use.
- Phocion55, on 01/18/2008, -2/+24Create a cluster of Eee's?
- alsowoldguy, on 01/18/2008, -19/+39To me the Air is not a computer, it's a fashion statement. The Eee is more about function, the Air is about form.
- katorga, on 01/18/2008, -1/+20Is a Lexus worth it when you can get almost the same functionality in a Camry? It is simple marketing. Spend $100 more making the product different form the base commodity product and sell it for $400 more than the commodity product, pocketing an extra $300 in profit. Alienware and the other "gaming PC" vendors do similar.
- tHePeOPle, on 01/18/2008, -2/+20Bah. I'd bet that the vast majority of the Air's will be used for web surfing and email sending, which is pretty much what the Eee's are designed specifically for. You'll just look slightly cooler doing it on the Air.
- xutopia, on 01/18/2008, -4/+22Only if you base this on price alone. Otherwise that golf cart would win hands down.
- GRTWHT, on 01/18/2008, -3/+17My God, what is it like to be such an extreme fanboy that you actually posted that?
- Urkel, on 01/18/2008, -2/+16It's amazing how some people change their tune on what their PERSONAL dream product is, simply because Apple went a different direction.
Let's be real here. Look around archives of Mac message boards or even track the comments by the loudest Mac "enthusiasts" and you'll have a hard time finding anyone that EVER said "The Macbook would be perfect if it were only thinner". Everyone's dream of an ultra portable mac was built around the "oversized iPhone" or a Powerbook Duo. So it's a bit disturbing that these same people are now pretending "thinner" is suddenly the holy grail of portable computing.
If Apple went the route of the Asus EEE then people would be all over it (and they were when those EEE running OS X articles came out). But Apple went Panini on us so now people are picking at the Asus for not fitting Steve Jobs version of "tiny". - yeediddy, on 01/18/2008, -1/+14I'm inclined to agree with a majority of the posts here - its not a fair comparison b/c they're really meant for 2 different audiences. The eee is a portable web browser with limited application functionality while the air is a desktop sidekick-companion. The air is thin enough to be an ultraportable, but why bother having a widescreen if it can't play widescreen dvds as a standalone?
I think if Jobs release the Air with the old school 12" and priced it accordingly, it would be a better comparo. In the meanwhile, I predict that the MBA will be as successful as the 1st gen AppleTV. - BinaryFragger, on 01/18/2008, -1/+14If the Air was smaller and cheaper, I would be interested in it. But its only obvious advantage is the thickness (or rather, the lack of it), which doesn't really seem like a big deal to me. This is why:
At my workplace, we carry around 14" ThinkPad T60s, which are about an inch thick and weigh a bit over 5 pounds with the battery installed. That weight includes a 7200RPM harddrive, a DVD multi-drive, 3 USB ports and Ethernet. With a quality case, carrying the laptop around all day is not an issue.
I fail to see how removing a couple of pounds and thickness would improve portability, as I already don't have any problems bringing the T60 everywhere I go.
The Air seems to have an identity crisis. It wants to be ultra-portable yet its fullsize screen and keyboard make it feel like a regular notebook. - cjh79, on 01/18/2008, -1/+14And I bet they'd still all fit in one manila envelope if you crammed them in hard enough.
- 0xbaadf00d, on 01/18/2008, -2/+15A desktop replacement with no ethernet and no optical drive??
- Chupacabra82, on 01/18/2008, -2/+14...but you will get more than one USB port!
- vagrantwade, on 01/18/2008, -6/+18The only positive I see for the Air is that it will feed the beast that is an Apple fanboy. I personally would no way in hell pay that much for a laptop unless it had a killer graphics card. Otherwise what is the point? I don't have a briefcase which happens to only have less than an inch of space left. I'm not hard for OSX. So as a consumer, please explain why I would want to pay that much for this laptop?
- Serapthi, on 01/18/2008, -3/+15I love the fact that cars are getting so small that we're measuring them in millimeters now.
- mwalker05, on 01/18/2008, -3/+14thinness does not make a laptop ultraportable. this is just a really thin laptop.
- IndigoMoss, on 01/18/2008, -1/+11It's definitely not a desktop replacement missing a lot of necessary features that even a regular laptop has. Pretty much they said,"Hey I have a great idea, let's take a normal notebook and make it a lot thinner so it looks cool. We'll probably have to take out a lot of important stuff, but that doesn't really matter, because image sells, not features."
- inactive, on 01/18/2008, -4/+14The Air won't beat the MacBook or the MacBook Pro, nor will it beat Dell's XPS M1330. For £100 less than the £1199 Apple wants for an Air, I can get:
2.2GHz Core 2 Duo
320GB HDD
GeForce 8400M 256MB
Why on earth would someone spend more on a PC thats specs are stuck in 2006? - hrm114, on 01/18/2008, -5/+15These comparisons about the Air with other notebooks are getting old. I think there are a few things that people need to remember - the Air is proprietary to Apple, and therefore should really be compared within it's own OSX market - I haven't seen any comparisons w/ the MacBooks, only with PC's - this is Apple's answer to their own markets needs for an ultraportable. Secondly, I think people need to realize that the Air is more conceptual than anything - there was obviously a great deal of engineering that went into making this notebook, which will carry on into the next line up of MacBooks, and even into PC's. And finally, nobody is forcing you to buy one. For me, I'll continue to wait for the next iteration.
- DiggCommando, on 01/18/2008, -3/+12Answer: Steve Jobs reality distortion field.
- totorototoro, on 01/18/2008, -0/+9It obviously is for some people :p
Otherwise Bentley, Rolex, and Monster Cable would be out of business :p - Kamakazi15, on 01/18/2008, -1/+10Google Cache.
http://209.85.165.104/search?hs=sUq&hl=en&lr=&c2co ... - Calimero007, on 01/18/2008, -0/+9I'd argue that a more interesting comparison is between the Asus eeePC and the iPod Touch. Roughly the same price, for a large part roughly the same usage (esp. when the iPod/iPhone SDK comes out next month).
The eeePC is cool but I am more inclined to buy the ipod touch for an hypercompact browsing/emailing/media device - mizike, on 01/18/2008, -18/+27next up: Automobile versus Golf Cart: A Comparison
*SPOILER* the automobile loses as it doesn't have a replaceable gas tank, but the cart has replaceable batteries.... - thugok, on 01/18/2008, -3/+12Are you saying that 1.5GB of RAM now costs ~$1300? And anyone with a screwdriver and a credit card can upgrade the EEE to 2GB.
- Vektuz, on 01/18/2008, -2/+11I think that thinness is overrated, tbh. When it comes to laptops. After a certain thinness has been reached, its more about overall size. You can make it as thin as you want and if it still doesn't fit into the bag because of its other dimensions, its not portable.
- j2002, on 01/18/2008, -4/+13What is the air supposed to be?
An Ultra Portable? In which case this comparison is fair and the eeePc wins by a mile.
A Regular Laptop? - In which case there are far better for far less.
Its really more of a fashion statement and like most fashion statements it will most definetly make you look gay. - jstone, on 01/18/2008, -0/+8The words were "very large SMALL car." In other words, it's right at the upper edge of size for a compact.
- missingnoh4x, on 01/18/2008, -1/+9At least it has that option.
- blumer, on 01/18/2008, -2/+10In response to those saying that this is an apples/oranges comparison, some people need their apples and oranges compared for them in order to understand that they're two different things. I think this article is good for someone not especially familiar with either device but interested in them and needing information on how they're fundamentally different in order to look more into which one really suits their needs.
- amidsummerlove, on 01/18/2008, -5/+13This is comparing apples to oranges. Great article none-the-less but honestly the air will win in almost any comparison in the laptop market, imo. Regardless, what about the Everex Cloudbook? Thats worth mentioning against the Eeepc. And the way i see it, it is by far a better sub-$500 notebook. Just my 2-cents.
- joshuaer, on 01/18/2008, -3/+10you have to send the MBA back to apple to charge the battery?
you meant to say the mini would have to be made so that you have to send it back to the dealership to get a new gas tank! ( but i guess that would not have sounded that smart) - missingnoh4x, on 01/18/2008, -1/+8"Linux (which is inferior to the more polished OSX Leopard)"
I could flame you to hell and back right now, but instead I'll restrain myself and simply suggest that we leave operating system fanboyism out of this. - missingnoh4x, on 01/18/2008, -2/+9Right, with the Air you just pop in your installation cds and - Oh, wait, no optical drive. Silly me. And in fact, the Eee can run those programs under Wine.
- fahrvergnuugen, on 01/18/2008, -1/+8Weight.
- gr00vy, on 01/18/2008, -0/+7I took back my EEEPC to Costco. It is actually a remarkable little machine... But the keyboard sucks, but more importantly the screen is simply to low a resolution, and possibly too small in size, but resolution is the real problem.
I simply need too much information on the screen at one time. Whether I am typing, reading email, or watching a video. It kept failing at that one basic function.
Functionally it worked very very well, suprisingly well. But it is just not the ultraportable I needed. The Mac-Air doesn't do it for me either. I am actually trying the HP tx2000 tablet, which may be the right sweetpoint for size/features/value. I am ready to move from my Macbook. -
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