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- eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -7/+52Why the hell would you complain that they didn't use the Mac font under XP?
Also, notice how them 'not bothering to anti-alias the text' is you not bothering to turn on ClearType or whatever it's called. o_O - psyno, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32It's a shock! Next, he's gonna tell us speed is CPU-dependent!
- ROFLance, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26@kingleo
The article shows the MBP renders it correctly, no need to reiterate. - unloud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Yeah, this bug has been around since 7.0. I found that the fuzziness went away after re-sizing the window though (intel macbook).
- l0ne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Re: fuzzy, it's a bug. Resize the CoverFlow window and away it goes.
- kmenzel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15@phlynqpngn Cleartype has absolutely nothing to do with adding a shadow under your text. Yeesh. Cleartype is subpixel anti-aliasing for text. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClearType
Though I agree with LocalH that it kind of looked like... at the very least, badly tuned cleartype to me... (yes you CAN tune it...) - sekhui, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17the poster really thinks antialiasing is video card dependent? i had no idea my video card was involved with that!
- LucasVB, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17That's supposed to be anti-aliasing? It looks like motion blur!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11First of all, this is important, and I've very glad that it was posted to digg. /sarcasm
Second. It has nothing to with the video card or anything else. It's just a bug. Resize the coverflow window and the controls will be painted correctly. - titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Have you unplugged the computer?
- Reno582, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11The Moral of this story? Intel's GMA 950 Sucks
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9What, is there a problem?
- Ricapar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10This seems to be more of a bug. By default, on my Core Duo MacBook, it looks crisp as it is supposed to. But sometimes out of nowhere it'll turn blurry.
- PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Jah. Apple's trying to offload everything it can to the GPU, but there's not enough consistency in their handling for consistency in the output. Optimize, Apple!
Anyway, to TFA's author: the buttons are in /Contents/Resources/iTunes.rsrc - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Oh no!
- danielman94, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I think it's a bug, too. When I start full-sceen on my Macbook(not pro), it is all nice and sharp, but when I scroll a little, it goes all blurry and crap-tastic. The volume icon things never blur on mine, though, it's just the bar.
Screenshots: Before scrolling - http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a211/danielman94/Picture1-1.png
After scrolling - http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a211/danielman94/Picture4-1.png - zeeky, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7this is not about anti-aliasing... like at all. anti-aliasing is smoothing out jaggies
- 4g3nt_Smith, on 10/12/2007, -12/+18So thats why my Cover Flow controls are all fuzzy. Honestly, I like Cover Flow, but the GUI elements for it were always too crappy looking on my MB for me to use it.
- yournamehere, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12what do you expect... they dont really want to show what the screen looks like for XP.
use the cleartype, asshats - usherzx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3seriously why is this on the frontpage...
of course anti-aliasing is video card dependent... thats why we can go to our video card settings and turn anti-aliasing up, down, on, and off...
duh? - evilkat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I completely agree...some of that AA blurs the scrollbars too much making it difficult to see.
- Radan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@evil-doer: You do know that the Mac got something called Core Image which enables the system to render 2D graphics with the graphic card?
Oh, and as a side note. Does anyone know if the Macbooks (not pro) supports Core Image/animation? (can easily be checked by just dragging a widget out to the Dashboard and see if it makes a wave effect) Else that could be the reason for the blurriness. - mobilehavoc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2For what it's worth it works perfectly in Windows (XP/Vista) using the Intel GMA 950 (Sony SZ laptop) so it's probably a bug but seems to be limited to OSX.
On a related note I've recently stopped using Coverflow because it's a ***** memory hog. With coverflow iTunes (both XP/Vista) will take up to 320MB of RAM but the moment I use the regular browser, stop using coverflow...memory usage for iTunes sits around 32MB. WTF??
For that type of footprint...Apple can take their coverflow and stick it up their ass. - FHKE, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Read what Apple were advertising when they were selling PPC Mac mini:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060218015545/www.apple.com/macmini/graphics.html
"Do More Simultaneously
Your Mac mini uses its dedicated graphics chip to offload visual tasks from the main CPU. So the G4 processor doesn’t have to worry about layering windows, moving them around, scrolling through web pages or worse, figuring out the pattern umpteen laser beams make when reflected off a shielded spaceship during combat. The Radeon 9200 takes care of all that, and does a better job than a general purpose CPU since it’s designed especially for such tasks. Even better, the Radeon 9200 gets to use 32MB of dedicated memory, which lets the G4 processor use all of its RAM for other tasks. That means you can run many more programs at once."
"Lock the Target
Or one 3D game. Go ahead, just try to play Halo on a budget PC. Most say they’re good for 2D games only. That’s because an “integrated Intel graphics” chip steals power from the CPU and siphons off memory from system-level RAM. You’d have to buy an extra card to get the graphics performance of Mac mini, and some cheaper PCs don’t even have an open slot to let you add one.
So view your digital life at the highest resolution with Mac mini and the world’s most advanced graphical user interface." - wilhel1812, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's a bug!!! sometimes it happens, sometimes not. nothing to do with the graphic card
- inkhead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is simply a bug in the iTunes update. As for Omniweb, this is a bug in there scaling of the download canvas window.
It's obvious you had the previous version of iTunes, so it's also obvious that you just notice this after the update. Meaning you obviously knew it was a bug, yet obviously you felt that you parents didn't give you enough attention growing up.
It's nearly as ***** obvious as me saying obvious too often. - conradpaul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1well i guess its good that someone did the research, but i don't know that this is worth anyone's time....
- awinn233, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Coverflow controls on my MacBook are blurry as well.
- Pliep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The problem is not graphics card dependent, but resolution-dependent. You should try the same tests with ALL computers in 1024x768 mode and you will see no differences.
- GregoryHarbin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Looks great on my Mini with Intel's GMA 950. *shrug*
- roostishaw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hmm. My Macbook's rendering job looks just like the MBP (in full screen, as the screenshots are in the "article").
- fuzzynyanko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Could be hardware-dependent. When I tried Linux a while ago, X used OpenGL to accelerate its drawing functions. Of course, I have no idea if Mac OSX does the same, so feel free to correct me on this.
- stewacide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is a problem with the Flying Windows screensaver as well.
- adc86, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I believe all of Apple's new computers support Core Image. To answer your question specifically, this includes MacBooks.
- yesno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the cover flow looks sharp on my MacBook, I don't think this dud knows what he is talking about
- geonlab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not sure how relevant this is to the topic but, why is it my new MacBook Pro is so visually laggy? It has good numbers, or so I was lead to believe, nice chippy things inside, and certainly heats up my lap. Why isn't it instant? What has been going on? *Thinks of 486 Thinkpad twelve years ago that ran the applications in a snappy fashion* Has anyone an answer?
- cjwl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I would tend to agree that this is specifically not an antialiasing bug, it looks more like there is a tiny bit of coordinate error causing resampling of the icons.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2802.11g > 802.11n
:) - LaughingMan11, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2It's probably a very small bug. I'm sure it'll be fixed soon.
- kirakun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1So, the moral is to go with the one with the ATI Radeon card?
- Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@usherzx
That's generally only with 3D anti-aliasing. 2D anti-aliasing is normally quite different and just rendered by the CPU since it's relatively simple, unless it's drawn on a 3D canvas to deliberately offload it to the GPU. - inkhead, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Anti-Aliasing has never been done in the graphics card on the any Mac for text. It takes much, much longer to send it to the graphics card and wait for it to come back over the pci-x bus then it does to send it to the cpu, and back to screen. Not to mention it's super low on the processors.
Think about every character you type, they are all anti-aliased. Maybe each one gets sent back to the GPU, then back to the CPU, then to the screen. That would be like a 1960's mainframe... You'd wait till everyone left the building to type an input line... because with less people there it only took between 3-10 seconds for each character to appear on screen :-) - MotionAesthetic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Bury
- KingLeo, on 10/12/2007, -18/+17I got a MBP Core Duo and it looks beautiful and crisp, just the way it's supposed to.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Indeed. and AMD's ATI cards rock.
And don't bother to look into the fact that anti-aliasing in windows (ClearType) is obviously turned off for the comparison, and just assume anti-aliasing in windows sucks.
If all else fails... tell us about the brand new iBook you chose over a Dell, to use out of box on your sub-professional projects. - mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6Let's all buy new computers to get Vista to run! Yay!
- rompom7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Firstly, ClearType is off on that screenshot. Not badly tuned (even the worse tuning softens the jaggies). I'm guessing its just the contrast that makes it look like that, zoom in, you'll see.
Secondly, you don't need to have ClearType to AA text, go to your graphics card driver software and you can mess with AA settings and not just for 3D games. - johnners, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0This is an irrelevant story. Right?
- hadak, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3holy *****! i all of a sudden give a crap!
- JayBorn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I have a 14inch ibook and mine is perfectly sharp I messed with it and there was never an issue.... So its highly debatable....
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