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- defectDS, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1562 hours and no save? And you blame the beta software?
- joaob, on 10/12/2007, -9/+65I admit I've been out of the scene for a little but....correct me if I'm wrong....Bittorrent doesn't do the leaking.
- asif5th, on 10/12/2007, -10/+58Yes, I correct myself, I can't wait until it's LEAKED on the torrent sites.
- wild, on 10/12/2007, -9/+45Well, technically you are supposed to have a seperate license for each copy/computer you use. So, yea.
- GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27I use it about two or three hours a day, often with ridiculously large sizes (over twenty megapixels), and it's never crashed on me. Running Windows XP Professional. It's some of the most stable beta software I've ever used. Don't blame the beta program for your misuse of the software. If you didn't feel like taking five seconds to hit CTRL + S, you shouldn't be using BETA software. Why do you have a website?
The only real problem with CS3 is that if you hit the "F" shortcut to change window types, the Start bar will remain black after a complete cycle. Not a big deal, as the start bar doesn't serve any use in Photoshop, and because you just need to alt tab out then alt tab in. There are a few other small bugs, but most of them are on the Mac. CS3 is much faster than CS2, and the new features are great. - pkulak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Gee, a beta version crashed?
- pintong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Dreamweaver not supported in the future? Not likely.
- ctrlfreak13, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Welcome to the professional world, where the price reflects the fact that they expect that you make a living off the product rather than use it for personal use.
- magic6435, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16"$95 US? That's about 1/4 of the average web design project."
i don't know about you but we charge $3,000 just to get started and they can run as high as $25,000 and thats still under-charging industry standards. - nekaidesigns, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15"The reason why creatives use Apple products is because they are not necessarily very computer literate. If they can get the tools they need without having to worry about the computer themselves it is a good thing."
That is one point of view - though, I am a creative, and am quite computer literate. I use OSX because I am sensitive to the environment in which i am being creative - windows is ugly and unintuitive, OSX is beautiful and works exactly as it should. I could use windows if i wanted to, and be perfectly productive. but In OSX, I'm surrounded by good design, and I feel that it improves my ability to produce good design. - GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15@Nobi
I no longer use CS2. CS3 is a freaking stallion compared to the slow mule that is CS2. - julzmon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Sucks that only Flash has a new UI. Seems quite sloppy for Dreamweaver and Fireworks with the old MM UI. That's one of the high features I was wishing for... the death of the horrible MM UI on the Mac
- spectre_25gt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13$3000.00 is the price for the full suite which looks like it includes about 15 full programs. That comes out to about $200.00 per application which is actually very good pricing for professional software. Compare that to Maya Unlimited at about $10,000.00 for a single (***** amazing) application.
- Mudcrutch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14That matrix of products is out of control.
- geeke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13holy crap thats alot of money.
- perre, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16Is Adobe really splitting the installer packages btw Intel and PPC??? I know many Mac users have a G4/G5 tower and intel macbook. Do they expect users to buy two collections?
- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11People need to give GawtMilk a break. I just checked his page on DeviantArt, [ http://hkisgotmilk.deviantart.com/ ] and it says he's 15 years old. When I was a teenager, I was doing flyers and t-shirts for my friends' bands and such, and I didn't charge much either.
I don't think anyone has to worry about their prices being undercut by the "bottom end" - it's not like his clients could ever afford your professional work, and he's got to start somewhere. What were YOU doing when you were 15? - gokss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Thanks Amazon.... :)
- colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"I think that shows that DW/FW will not be supported in the future."
Which is why GoLive doesn't seem to be part of CS3? : scratches head : - HiddenLYNX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@wild, perre
I talked to a representative while trying to install CS2 on my mac. The guy says Adobe allows installations on two computers, so long as you run one at a time. That was the word from someone who works there, I dont think theyd lie. - spargett, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"$95 US? That's about 1/4 of the average web design project."
$400 website? Holy hell thats cheap. Maybe I'm just used to working in the Bay Area. - thinsoldier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Adobe Photoshop CS3AMT
start photoshop, cancel the wizard and close photoshop
rename application.sif to application.sif.xxxxx
problem fixed.
these steps will have to be repeated on the 1st of every month - uhbeta, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@ufia
ummmm this would be Adobe, not Apple - thatsmyaibo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@Hidden
You are absolutely correct. I have an iBook and a new iMac and run it on both. Adobe customer support says it's ok as long as one at a time is running the serial number. - nekaidesigns, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7uglyshirts - like what? I'm genuinely curious - what does corel "x" do so much faster than adobe "y" ?
- origclubsoda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I cant believe I am going to have to spend $2000. :(
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Serves you right, dunce
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Some of us are happy to still have fireworks being made universal... I know I wasn't ready for the loss of such a great web image creation and editing software. Yeah photoshop is better for some things but when you grow accustomed to software for a certain role it sucks learning something new just to appease the company who discontinued the old stuff.
- JohnnyRad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm holding out for the Adobe Creative Suite Legendary Edition...it comes in a masterchief helmet case!
- MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5uglyshirts,
Does PS cost less when you use a PC? Isn't the software pricing the same for both platforms? If you're talking about the cost of the computer, that's nonsense because high-end Macs don't cost significantly more than high-end PCs. Sure you can run PS on a $300 Costco special, but you won't run it well. Professionals use professional tools and that includes the computers they run it on. Whether they use a Mac or Windows based PC, they are not cheap computers. If a designer prefers a Mac OR a WinPC, buy them the best one you can afford. They'll be happier and more productive which translates into more money for your company. Get over yourself and your Mac hatred. - Quix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"The incomprehensible Mac bias in the design world costs art departments cumulative fortunes in upgrades and productivity losses every year." - uglyshirts
The incomprehensible Windows bias in the corporate world costs IT departments cumulative fortunes in upgrades and productivity losses every year.
(I should know: I have to use Windows all day at my corporate job.)
Sorry for responding to the troll. Now back to the original topic. - livefire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5technically if you own more than one computer you can put it on every one you use personally. That's why cs2 could be installed on up to 4 computers with one key.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Wow! Get 2 at that price!
- chadu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8GawtMilk, it's lowballers like you that make being an actual pro web designer difficult. $400? I wouldn't even meet with a client for that much money.
- serpicolugnut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Looks like my upgrade from PS CS2 to the Web Premium bundle will be about $1399 (Amazon lists it at $1349). I've held out a while on MX 2004, Illustrator 10, so I guess I shouldn't whine too much about the price.
One thing I noticed from the screenshots is that Illustrator and Flash got the Photoshop CS3 pallette/dock treatment, whereas Dreamweaver and Fireworks didn't. That's kind of disappointing. I was hoping Adobe would make the pallettes consistent across all the apps. - oedenfield, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'm just glad that dreamweaver means the death of golive
- oedenfield, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The current Adobe CS2 license allows for installing on two computers in the case of a work and home computers. The catch is that they can not be used concurrently. I would assume that a desktop and a laptop installation would be allowed as long as they wouldn't be used at the same time.
- Subtonic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I wish I could pick and choose my bundle. I need Indesign, Illustrator, Photoshop, and Dreamweaver - pretty much what the CS2.3 bundle is now. Nothing like that is offered in CS3.
- Nobi-Wan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I have Adobe CS2 and I was told you can have up to three computers using it, with one of the computers "leap frogging" the serial code.
- flashboy131, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Every agency I have worked for allowed me the option to install on my home machine.
- Iwantawii, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You can buy a new Intel Mac for less than the price of some versions of CS3.
- perre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I spoke with an Adobe developer at MacWorld in January, and he assured me that the Flash UI and flash integration with the rest of the suite were the two primary things they were attempting to tackle for this next release. To my mind, even if those were the ONLY two things they were fixing in flash, that would an enormously appreciated change.
- mipadi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"It's what people who use real computers call that hippy-dippy, over-shiny and under-functional, proprietary-to-the-***** Apple crap."
Funny… I went to a talk by one of the foremost computer security researchers, and he's a Mac user, as are a number of my computer science professors. Most of the Ruby on Rails team uses Macs to some degree... A number of other computer science researchers have switched to Macs... Yep, seems people who use Macs aren't really doing real stuff with them. - JohnnyRad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4hate to break it to you, but all mac devers are on the cusp of dumping power pc, this is common knowledge.
- veracon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I also strongly doubt DW will be unsupported; as much as I'm against WYSIWYG, I have to admit Dreamweaver is the best out there.
- Topher06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Honestly, except for the G5 generation, I can't see any so called professional designer wanting to use a G4 PowerPC Mac. When Apple moved to Intel based computers they doubled to quadrupled the performance over G4 based Mac's, and rivaled or surpassed dual G5 systems. Apple moving to Intel pretty much made PowerPC Mac's obsolete.
I can understand how upset people that made the investment of a G5 system finding out the newest applications might not be available to them, but then, what does CS3 offer that most people can live without and still use CS2? Its like anything, why upgrade unless there is a point to upgrade. Personally, I would prefer if a new generation of software took advantage of a new generation of hardware, rather then new generations of software comprimising on features and performance to cater to old machines. Adobe is drawing the line and saying if you want a new level of performance and feature sets, you need to upgrade your Mac's to Intel.
Its not Adobe's fault that Apple nullified an entire generation of Mac's. - perre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I spent some time on the amazon.ca site reading the details... It appears that they ARE selling almost all of the apps as Universal Binary by listing each one as "Mac OS X, Mac OS X Intel." I think this means that they may only be abandoning PPC in the Master collection (what appleinsider suggested) which I'm guessing means that two or three apps in the collection (After Effects, for example) aren't being updated for PPC, while the rest in that package are the same installers as you get in an individual app purchase.
So if you were to empty your pocketbook on the master collection, you'll probably be able to install on your portable and your main system, but certain apps would only be intel compatible... we'll see when the official details are announced. - adc86, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wait, why are you designing a logo in Photoshop in the first place?
- Kelmon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Not a diplomatic answer but more or less correct. Focus should certainly be given to the Intel platform for future releases of the Mac version because PowerPC, like it or not, is now legacy hardware. I'd suggest that it still needs to be considered for a CS4 release but after that Adobe could probably drop support for it entirely since all PowerPC machines will likely be at least 5-years old by that time and due for replacement.
- virtualscribe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This new product Sound Booth seems to have replaced the amazing Audition. I used that audio editor during the late 90s when Syntrillium called it Cool Edit pro. Leo Laporte talked about it as something old radio guys around the country used in an old episode of Kevin Rose and Dan Huard's "Podcasting" episode: www.revision3.com/systm/podcasting
Also, it looks like Adobe's marketing director will get a raise; without paying any money for ads, they have people actually talking about their product pre release. They don't have to go through the normal channels, they don't have to put google ads or banners anywhere, just "leak" their prices from a non US company and this secret insider info now becomes available. In a tough marketplace where they are competing with themselves, where business analysts watching stock prices are saying people won't switch from CS1 or CS2, they get all this buzzword compliant viral talk swirling about thier product from web 2.0 sites. Adobe 2.0 -
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