What is Digg?34 Comments
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29Digg doesn't challenge existing media ... it links to it.
- JackHallows, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19Not necessarily...
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Bury please, I have no idea what I'm talking about. - paulkman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13@bspp
Aren't you the case in point of the article? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Watch me get buried for this... but IT'S TRUE.
Digg does not "challenge the media" because many of the stories are false, misleading, wrong, and links to blogs which are personal opinion pieces. - R0CKY, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Two thirds of you reading this probably won't have seen the paragraph that rang true for me, so I'll quote it here, all though I would probably have used the word "frustratingly" somewhere ...
"As much as two thirds of the comments posted to a Digg article listing often reflect that the users didn't visit the site, but are simply commenting on the article's headline or blurb, or other people's comments" - danieleran, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@marahmarie
Yes, all of White America isn't in fear and angry, but a fat chunk are and they make a lot of noise.
Not all of Middle Eastern / Middle American fundamentalists are rabidly fueling efforts to build a fear/anger war, but enough are to make the world a scary place.
Similarly, the majority of PC users are wholly disintersted in platform advocacy, but a vocal minority of are angry enough to spontaneously combust, as many Digg comments indicate. - Tilneys, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Another well thought out piece.
You must remember that for some people anyone or anything that presents Apple in a positive light will be furious. After all, the last thing they want is a challenge to a Microsoft engineered monoculture. - user123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I agree with you, SOMETIMES it would appear that people are digging the Title more then the actual story / quality / facts at hand.
- winmac96, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Daniel Eran,
I am neither White nor Middle Eastern yet I sort of see where you were going with your metaphor in your excellent piece.
After all, Digg itself represents all the ideas from all over the world. Although, the majority in us behave according to Digg by-laws, there exist a tiny, extremely vocal minority from each OS camp that shoots volleys at each other on every Apple article on Digg.
Flaming one another doesn't add substance to the conversation and neither does it dissect the ongoing topic with a logical, rational, and valid viewpoint.
Being a technologist, I tend to lean over to the Apple side on matters concerning creativity, design thoughtfulness, and intuitive usefulness of many of their products. Fact is, Apple has Design won out from MS long ago in computer history.
MS, being the cultivator of the PC monoculture no longer have any instance of inspiration anymore. Why would they? They have >90% of the market! All they have to do is slight mutation of their cash cows. Vista is a realistic outcome of that mentality. It is XP SP3.5 (Eye Candies, included.)
I use Windows XP and Server 2003 on a daily basis, too. And those MS products are, let's face it, the OSes that pays my house and my bills. They are not nearly as perfect as Apple's OS but they are good enough for the job. I don't believe I am the first one to say that.
I will use Vista and from reading RC1 posts, It doesn't add much to XP. In fact, many advice people using XP to just wait for the Service Packs that will include much of the Vista plumbing (sans Avalon, nee... WPF).
As for those stunning articles that deem the witty a better sense of truth whether they are labeled Mac Jingoism, Windows Cynism, or flat-out The Truth, Thank You. I always have a fun time reading every issue. Perhaps, you can syndicate your web magazine so more people can find out about you and what you stand for. Just my few cents...
And last, Dvorak and Thurott will be pleased to have a worthy competitor (if not already).
P.S. Thanks for the Digg snippet showing my comment. :D - winmac96, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Amen...
Digg is not really a domocracy of ideas bubbling in one sector of the net. But rather, Digg is just a pool of ideas both good and crap, to the useful and useless throughout.
Caveat Emptor my friends (that's Latin for "Let the buyer beware") and have a safe Digging. :D - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I actually read the entire article. It was interesting and probably true for the most part.
The beauty of Digg, by the way, is that you can bury the flaming comments out of your view and highlight the ones that are percieved as being useful.
*sort by most diggs* (although you lose the thread structure) - deadcow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3thanx for the informative article on the digg phenomenon. i especially appreciated the "anatomy of a digg" section.
btw, i think the reason why there's so much rage is that some people just can't handle the truth. - argash, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It's not a TOOOMMMAAAA
- purpleaspi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The article's comparison between Windows users and White America was a bit unexpected - but I'm digging this for the chronological screenshots of the digg comments screen for a previous digg article. Cool!
- danieleran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@anicejew
Digg is a tool; it can be used both to direct attention to minority voices (challenge the media) or for lame spam.
If you've been on TV news or referred to in a newspaper article, you know that all news gets things wrong or is misleading in some areas.
I think its kind of lame when people link to a blogged paragraph instead of the original story, but there is nothing superior about the opinion of corporate writers over other individuals. Are they more qualified to write about tech industry subjects than someone who actaully works in the industry and isn't censored in what they can write about?
Take a look at the subjects that corporate writers cover: they're all either just rehashing the same press release information or generating pointless controversies that play up drama.
Digg is full of links to CNET/ZDNet writers that all sound like they couldn't get real jobs. What is interesting about Digg is the potential to challenge what people say.
Unfortunately, after a story on Digg hits about 50 comments, the Digg end of the "discussion" ends up in childish rant land, as the article describes.
Digg desperately needs a reputation system for users. - ksuburke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1He has some valid points about some Digg comments, there is a lot of anger, especially when it comes to Operating Systems.
Why doesn't the OpenGL/DirectX debate have more spunk to it? Which API will survive? - spinchange, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"If a story fails to get more than 50 Diggs in a 24 hour period, it falls off into a Digg limbo and will never rise again."
This is an inaccurate statement...it is possible (though not probable) for article to still get to the FP after 24 hours. Stories fall out of the queue after 24 hours. I have had one of my own subs get FP'd after it was out of the queue. - link470, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1lol, thankyou for reading the psychology of the Digg.com comment rating system:) Presented by JackHallows and user123.
- drilldown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Count me out of the your stats on this one. 2/3 breeze through. 1/3 do know how to read.
Again, listening to people. Something some assume people do not do? - drilldown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1In summary: When the FCC and other entities both governmental and private ignore common sense and sidelines the feedback and suppresses through intermediaries what they actually need to actively survive, it causes feedback in a freer forum which doesn't suppress the expression of true feedback? Shocking.
Freedom always wins in the end. No matter how well orchestrated a society.
People have to get things done, and still find time for a life. - FreeTheTree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow! You are going to get E-Mails from all sorts of nut cases for this (Microsofties-Scientologists-Pimple challenged young males-Right Wing zelots,etc). I loved this article. It is a challenge to think for yourself.
- MackPrime, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3let's all digg me down for my perfectly valid opiinion.
You all complain about apple or nintendo news but go and digg news on digg, even if the digg news is nowhere near as substantial as apple or nintendo articles.
hypocrites, i spit on you. - MackPrime, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4i gotta say, the articles ON digg are boring and repetitive.
- HMTKSteve, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Your "White America" argument does not hold water in that case.
It would only hold water if the new media that is challenging the old media were being given special treatments to help them into the marketplace... You know "equal opportunity" or "quotas" or "preferential treatment to minority owned companies"... All those things that occur in the corporate world where companies (and people) are often hired/promoted/contracted based on making the one who is doing the hiring look better by promoting diversity.
That is what "White America" fears. Not diversity and minorities, but forced diversity where minorities are hired BECAUSE of the color of their skin rather then the merits of their work.
So... Are the new media companies being given these benefits? - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Your comments are boring and repetitive.
- Cglass, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4bspp has a tumor
- adinb, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I really enjoyed the article. I wish he had stuck to his original topic and not wandered off to typical Apple analysis, but it was enjoyable nontheless.
- dziban303, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4I hate articles that sound interesting but bore me to tears after a few paragraphs.
- meBigGuy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0Useless apple rant --- too bad he wasted whatever credibility the beginning paragraphs might have bestowed. Whole 2nd half was OT and lame.
- user123, on 10/12/2007, -13/+1Digg Factiod #67: Ask to be burried, and your wish will be granted.
- bogasawara, on 10/12/2007, -16/+2A - ***** - men
- bspp, on 10/12/2007, -29/+7the true power of digg is that it allows douchebags with blogs to write about macs or ipods or digg.com itself to drum up traffic for pageviews. no matter how poor the writing, no matter how stupid the content, it seems to work.
macs suck. ipods suck. stories about digg suck. RDM seems to be the juxtaposition of the three, a perfect storm of ass.
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