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- superpixel, on 10/10/2007, -6/+85let's also mention: a request completely within your rights according to the law. Unlike Michael Knight, Apple is NOT above the law. Call the FCC to complain (because Apple won't answer you EVER): 1-888-CALL-FCC
- jamesL70, on 10/10/2007, -7/+63If someone doesn't like Apple and AT&T's positions on unlocked phones, why not vote with your wallet and not buy the damn thing? Geez, it's not like they made a secret out of it being locked and that future software upgrades might break it.
- objectcode, on 10/10/2007, -8/+53***** AT&T
- Avor, on 10/10/2007, -4/+35AT&T is doing the service not Apple. This has nothing to do with Apple and everything to do with AT&T. At least blame the correct person.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -21/+50***** Apple.
- ChrisXof, on 10/10/2007, -3/+28Just filed my complaint... wait and see!
P.S. Do the same!! - FrostySol, on 10/10/2007, -5/+28Normally the fanboy in me would have dugg you down, but this whole exclusive agreement situation is childish and monopolistic on Apple's part. I'm not surprised by AT&T, but Apple really dropped the ball on this one.
- scotty1024, on 10/10/2007, -6/+29There is no subsidy lock on the iPhone for the simple reason there was no subsidy in the first place: D'oh!
You had to agree to the terms of service when you activated the iPhone. If you didn't read them: D'oh! If you were confused and didn't ask an attorney to investigate them: D'oh!
I guess personal responsibility is a dead concept for some people. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -11/+30If they don't unlock you can contact the fcc and file a complaint, i think their is a law that they have to allow you to unlock your phone.
- sholt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16The FCC will take their sweet time to respond, but, if enough people contact them with valid complaints, they will look into things.
- srodolff, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17I have a revolutionary thought. Don't buy a phone that restricts you (even if said phone is greater than sliced bread). A phone should be useful all the time. We consumers have lots of choice than to be locked into one design and one carrier.
- cerealjynx, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15I dunno man, I usually hit up the honeydew melons, personally... :/
- locojones, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Well you're wrong. There is NO law that requires a carrier to unlock your phone. A DMCA exemption exists to allow a user to unlock their phone for use on another carrier without fear of being sued for copyright infringement. However, there is no obligation that a carrier actually unlock your phone for you, at any time during your contract or otherwise. Call the FCC all you like, you're wasting your time.
- totorototoro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Nothing will happen until enough people complain, then once ATT is forced to, they will file the details alongside their "DSL for $9.99" offer :p
- frazw, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12It seems to me that this is more to do with Apple than AT&T.
- eternal, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13If people would only get half as upset at the deterioration of our liberties and freedoms as you are about the fact that Apple bricked your iPhone, we would be living in a much different country at the moment.
- greerso, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11I spoke to the FCC about this issue and was told its not their area, FCC deal with broadcasting, not hardware. Unlocking a phone is allowed under the DMCA, but there is nothing to say anyone HAS to unlock it for you.
- Vazelos, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8lawsuits incoming...
- locojones, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Continuing with the downfall of Digg, I notice the original poster has 40+ diggs now without even specifying what law is being violated? So omniscient one, what law are you referring to?
- SirZRX, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7hi guys, i have my own opinion, sorry for my grammar i hope to make my point clear:
im from mexico and i went to the us 2 weeks ago and bought an iPhone , i went to the apple store picked the phone, then i went to the hotel, unbox the phone,turn the phone on, unlocked and thats its. in the whole process i didn't sing any paper o clicked "i agree", why is not legally to do what i want to my phone?... in some software u have to agree to the disclaimer,before the installation proceeds , even in World of Warcraft u have to agree. i am paying 400usd and i think that i am paying for the software and the hardware, all the chips inside are mine now and about the software i am buying the software too. Just imagine GM bitching because u installed new wheels and a new system on ur brand new. - greerso, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Correct, I also spoke with ATT who had unlocked several phones for me in the past. They were happy to unlock, then realized they weren't able and transfered my call to an Apple rep who told me they do not allow unlocking of the iPhone.
- Yellow2k7, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Too bad for you guys, when the phone is released in the UK, we can unlock the phone ourselves or ask the network, in this case o2, to do it for us. This is due to the laws in the UK and has been the case for many years, usually the networks will charge you a small fee (£20-30) but it is entirely legal to do it yourself.
By the way, if a later firmware update locks the phone again, the network will face a pretty hefty fine. - thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -6/+11No, no, no, no, NO! Here's the Cookie Cutter responses:
"Taser This: ***** < insert "evil" entity > "
or
"Don't Tase me BRO!" - jsully, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4There you go locojones - it was the some law of 2003.
- zdiggler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4FCC actually response to consumers faster then you think. I fought with my landlord over installing directv it was resolved in a week after.
- frazw, on 10/10/2007, -5/+8Remind me why Apple doing this makes it ok but if anyone else and there would be hell to pay.
Even if it was in the T&C doesn't change the fact that this kind of tactic is unscrupulous. - tbechtx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4what a bunch of whiny babies! If you don't want AT&T as a carrier don't buy an iPhone. I am so sick of this stupid subject getting so much publicity. You purchased the iPhone under the pretext that you would use AT&T as the carrier. Nobody twisted your arm to buy the phone. Grow up!
- Carteelith, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6Tmobile has this 30 day wait period also, but it's illegal so they don't enforce it. As long as you ask it isn't a problem with them. But who knows AT&T has pulled some dumb ***** since this iPhone release.
- smithfly114, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6I have done this several times with AT&T with a variety of phones, never been a problem.
- pebcake, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2WAV is a container, it can contain many formats. The iPhone can likely play uncompressed PCM but perhaps not IMA ADPCM or u-Law or one of a dozen other formats that come in WAV containers.
- crainiarc, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5You are so gonna get that rep fired...
- KSUdesigner, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Voided warranty is one thing, but would GM make it so that your car no longer functions?
- footodors, on 10/10/2007, -10/+12stupid apple worshippers always end up getting themselves in a jam
- superkendall, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4It is legal to do what you want. You also don't have to install updates Apple provides, and Apple is under no obligation to make sure updates work with firmware and software *you* have modified. By taking a path of changes to the iPhone different than the one Apple provides, you chose to not update the iPhone through Apple but through other software - and that is the choice you must stay with, at least until that same path opens from the new baseline that Apple provides.
Since everyone can do what they want, why are so many people unhappy? - tucktan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Apple is above the law.
duh. - superkendall, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Yes required to ALLOW consumers to unlock the phone, not required to HELP THEM DO IT.
- ih8apple, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Huh, thats funny.....that article was submitted by you......
- locojones, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6No, you don't have a right to have your phone unlocked by the carrier. No law anywhere says that you do. AT&T is not obligated to unlock your phone. And they have in place other measures of providing you service while in another country, such as the cheap rental phone mentioned in the article.
- Iam9376, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2They're too busy reading digg and bitching about AT&T and Apple to read the iPhone's agreements.
- greerso, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2ATT had the exclusive on Blackjack when they unlocked that for me the day after I bought it.
- TejInLA, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I wonder if the law applies if the hardware vendor relocks the phone instead of the network carrier.
- TejInLA, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1@infobahan: No, but anyone purchasing the phone now will be unable to unlock it.
- Himself, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1How is it that you haven't been graveduggered yet for expecting personal responsibility?
- TejInLA, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Do you really think they review each and every phone call?
- rubikon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1..he fixes the cable?
- sonicularulus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1In my opinion, you all hate apple/att for locking the iPhone, but really...this is the american cellphone market where a lot of cellphones are tied to a cellphone provider. When purchasing the iPhone, you bought it knowing you would have to use ATT with it, and if you didnt, then sorry to say, you're an idiot. There's no reason for all of you to whine over the lock since you all knew it was existent and with apple having control with software updates, apple controls what kind of things you can do with your iPhone. With any software modification you come out with, apple will always come back at you with a way to counter-act it.
- rodzilla, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I discovered a cute thing with the iPhone today since the 1.1.1 update, When I originally got my phone about 3 weeks ago, I was bummed to find that the phone would not play .wav files from email attachments (vonage emails you your voicemail) but I figured oh well .wav isn't really a Mac file format, so I moved on. Now with 1.1.1 I noticed these .wav file attachments now actually have a Quicktime looking icon associated with it instead just a white square.. So I figured SWEET the iphone now knows what a wav file is, but no, it tries to open the music player ipod app thing but then gives an error that it cant play the movie file.I find it quite odd that someone at apple went through the trouble to associate the .wav file with the ipod application, but still cant play them... just thought it was funny and felt the need to share. not complaining though as I have decided to reactivate my blackberry and sell this toy.
- tdhurst, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Agreed. Let's start something.
- Solenoid, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5Blasphemy!
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