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- kzinti, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26Call me pedantic, but what I'd really like to see is a Digg user's journey to grammar.
- SixSider, on 10/12/2007, -9/+31This will probably catch a bunch of flack, but I shall say it anyway.
Reading through the comments on his blog makes it clear the bonus of the cult of mac: people are really friendly if you give it a chance. Beyond the iPod defensive whine you read on his first post, people are really polite nice and helpful. Excited even. It's such a nice thing to see. - rabiddogma, on 10/12/2007, -9/+29Windows store? You mean like Home Depot?
- buckykatt, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24@Ericular...yes there are more people who can help with PC problems, and SOME of them are great, but honestly, most of the time the ones I get stuck dealing with are a cross between Napoleon Dynamite and that tech guy on Saturday Night Live: "What do you mean you don't know how!? GOSH! You're STUPID. Your mom must have dropped you on your head..." and so on.
- breakneckridge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15
The writer seems genuinely unbiased. It's good to see that once in awhile. - MichaelW2, on 10/12/2007, -10/+20yeah - so if you went to a "windows" store the people would be jerks right?
puh-leeeze - pavelich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11i cant believe that you guys keep generalizing users as "friendly" or "*****". The type of people is not dependent on what type of computer they use. There are ***** and nice people everywhere. Just an observation though...
- DaveUK, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11tell me more about this turd in a bag, it sounds interesting
- Ericular, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12@buckykatt -
I see where you're coming from. It's unfortunate when people act stupid like that. If you don't want to help someone out, just keep quiet. If you're willing to make an effort to assist someone else, be nice about it. Doesn't seem all that complicated to me. Still, I don't know if there's enough data to generalize about the demeaner of an entire userbase of an OS. - deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11@ispcaster
I'm an Apple customer, have been for years, but I have to disagree about the Apple stores. The people that work there are arrogant jerks. - el_jefe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7GeneHACKman
Out of curiousity I checked your digg history. Your blog = no digg must be a new thing, huh? You have dugg the following blogs...
http://riccardo.raneri.it/blog/eng/index.php/2006/02/27/your-face-if-you-were-born-abroad/
http://komodomedia.com/blog/index.php/2006/01/09/css-star-rating-part-deux/
http://www.jimmygrewal.com/?p=187
I prolly missed some others. Perhaps your comment should read "I don't digg blogs about Macs"? - Mr.White, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Because boot camp just came out, and I now know I will be buying a Mac, this article is a great reference.
- Ericular, on 10/12/2007, -17/+24The bonus of the cult of the PC is that the users are much more abundant. Even if Mac users in general are nicer and more helpful on average, the sheer quantity of helpful PC users multiplies your chances of solving a problem. I'm just saying -- is that seriously a valid reason for switching OS's?
- duke_nate, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Ya, its like everyone that switches has to write a fking thesis about it. We get it already. You like macs now. Some will agree with you, some wont. Get over it!
- furtwan1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7my good friend just switched in the other direction...
- floejoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"It's both slightly technical and very technical"
that's somewhat counter intuitive. It's either very technical or slightly technical. Otherwise you could say it's moderately technical. - Hakai, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Here is the problem with those people.
Most of them haven't gotten out of high school, or haven't even had a job yet.
They have cheap PC's because their parents buy them for a birthday or on christmas (in fact a majority are on their parents' PC to begin with). They think they're experts because they've "Suped up" their machines by doing some RAM timings or something. It's like those kids in high school with crappy cars but that love trying to show off their "racing skillz" on the "street".
How many l33t d00ds have you seen running with $1399 Macs? - starmanjones, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6>I started off as a PC users, then I needed to do some video editing, I bought a Mac, it
>was good for that, but I’m back on my PC's full time. Apple is more of a marketing company
>then a useful products company, case in point, Mac’s ship with a mouse with 1 button. Get
>real. Why only one? Either it’s to force buying more product, or its built in functional
>obsolesce
see we can tell when someone is lying. you haven't touched a mac outside a store have you? - Hakai, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I'm assuming you mean "they're helpful when you're trying to buy". I have had nothing but headaches from their service/support.
I recently had a client ask me to look at their Mac that they just received back from the Apple store.
The PRAM battery was gone.......that's a no-no. A BIG no-no
The solution they gave to him? "Oh...buy a new one!" - lambright, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9I started off as a PC users, then I needed to do some video editing, I bought a Mac, it was good for that, but I’m back on my PC's full time. Apple is more of a marketing company then a useful products company, case in point, Mac’s ship with a mouse with 1 button. Get real. Why only one? Either it’s to force buying more product, or its built in functional obsolesces.
- kimos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Well that really doesn't sound like you've "switched" to Ubuntu as much as you "have another machine where sometimes you use" Ubuntu...
- swindmill, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8That's right. The only difference is what the hardware and software "looks" like. Brilliant
- pastabagel, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10This is going to be so much more important after Vista comes out.
Vista, even if it works as advertised, is going to be a support nightmare because the interface behaves so differently than the 95 though XP interface. Where are all those people going to go with their questions, Best Buy? Good luck with that.
Add to this everything we are hearing about Vista bombing, still having core bug issues at this stage, delays, etc and you have a perfect storm. This is a huge opportunity for Apple to leverage all the goodwill/positive buzz from Windows user's iPod and iTunes experience to switch them to the Mac. As an aside, this is why I'm not impressed by google's rumored foray into music downloads. Lots of places let you download music, Lots' of firms make MP3 players. None of them have that Apple aesthetic, and that's becoming more important than feature bloat and technical characteristics.
Same processor, same upgrades, better design, more stable OS, fewer viruses, etc.
And I say this as a Windows XP user who's never used a mac. - Wardvark, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I made the switch a week ago, and am happy I did. I know I could do everything on my PC that I could on my Mac, but with the Mac more things are built into the OS, like garage band, which I use.
Let me also say that XP is a very stable OS, if you know what you are doing. But isn't that the case with most things? A car can crash if the driver doesn't know what they are doing. - Hakai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"2. The Apple Store. Live, in-person, free support. In-warranty, out-of-warranty, they don't care. There is no comparable service for PC."
I'm still going to have to disagree with you on this one. Granted a centralized apple store simplifies where you need to go, but all the advice any of my clients have been given is usually not useful for them, or they're told that buying a new Mac will simply all of their problems. - el_jefe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@nirmaldotca
People blog about it, because so many Windows users do not realize there are alternatives. And as far as I am concerned its important for us to remind them about that. So much FUD is spread from the different camps, yes Mac and *nix as well as MS. Real users experiences are important to showing that a lot of what is said is FUD or simply BS. A lot of people are "scared" to switch. Once the curtain has been pulled back a lot of them might say, "wow, that's not as hard as they told me it was." - wewa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Many of you are exactly why we need moderated discussion boards...
I left slashdot because they are all trying to be comedians there, and digg is now awful, the more popular, the more crappy the quality of the discussion, unfortunately.
There's not a lot to learn from the opinions you're posting.
Let the flaming begin! - nigeltufnel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Support for Macs has two advantages over support for PCs:
1. Easy fixes. If your problem doesn't involve outright corruption or hardware failure, you'll usually find a solution, usable by anyone's grandma, simply by posting the question to any Mac-based forum. There's no Registry on the Mac.
2. The Apple Store. Live, in-person, free support. In-warranty, out-of-warranty, they don't care. There is no comparable service for PC.
Lately it seems the Cult of Anti-Mac is much more militant here than the Cult of Mac. - nirmaldotca, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Why is mac users so damn dramatic, if your going to switch over to a mac then just switch. I use both but i don't need to tell a story about why i use both. I embrace all sort of different technologies why have favorites? :)
- DJNewStyle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@buckykatt -
The Nick Burns skit was depicting an office that used Macs. They reference using "finder", the Apple key, etc. So, he was essentially frustrated at the lack of proficiency his co-workers displayed on a Mac. - kolop1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4 I switch from the Mac to the PC. Maybe i should write a blog about it. Also if you can't call yourself tech savvy for being able to use a Mac. A brain dead monkey could figure out how to run a Mac.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Um, no. Apple news, regardless of the content value, is promoted to the front page by fanatical Apple users. PC users dont find every bit of news from MS to be front page worthy. Ditto that for Linux people. Macboys will digg a story about an Apple product if it wasnt even in the damn article.
- mattyparanoid, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6...pedantic
seeing as no one else did.... - m0nk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Personally, I was first a Windows guy (yeah, after Win95 came out I bought the hype and got the ol' MCSE when NT 4.0 was released), then when I realized Windows doesn't do a bit of good in the real world, I switched to Linux. I've been using and admining that for about 7 years now. Recently I borrowed a PowerBook G4 from a buddy who runs a computer lab at the local university. I have to say that I'm now a believer. I've got a jar going for my MacBook Pro moneys.
- scottpatricks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4There is so much focus on "the shift" that people actually lose sight of what is actually happening. Sure OS X runs great (hardly no viruses, etc, etc.), but that's only because it has 3% of the market share. Why would a virus writer focus on 3% of the population. Isn't the point to infect as many as possible?? If it where the other way around, Windows with 3% and OS X with the majority, OS X would be full of buggy software, viruses, etc. The current OS X fans would be telling people to do "the shift" to Windows.
- heydigital, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I actually switched the other way, from Mac to PC. Maybe I should write a blog and post it on digg?
- SeniorElGuapo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Have any proof, or did you just yank that out of your ass?
- veracon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Indeed I doubt many people switch entirely; I didn't either, but that's because I have to test on WIndows-only browsers when developing for the web; I have to test if my standalone applications work on Windows.
Other than that, Ubuntu is my main OS. I use it probably some 95 % of the time. - rsplatpc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Never had any problems with Win XP, configuring all my apps is easy, and messing around with it is fun, like the Apple interface but there is just way more programs with Win than OS X, don't see the point?
Also my confirm comment code was Fag69, not kidding! - yahoofrom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3But I thoughtt the name "digg" itselff was kindd of.....
- jdelamater, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@geterix
RTF blog.
It's like reading an experienced Windows user's journey in experiencing a OS that is structured completely different. Anyone who makes the switch and has never used an Apple has a bit of a learning curve in their sights. For those who are hesitant, it's helpful in their decision.
For those who are complete jerks, like you, it's obviously less helpful. So, for the future, here is a tip: Do us all a favor and stop breathing. - jpt62089, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nice Digg! I learned a bit about OS X =) This will help me make my switch a little easier once I actually get enough $$$ to get a MacBook Pro or their regular Intel desktop version (once it comes out with 10.5 :) )
- huggybear, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5This site seems to be turning into macdigg.com
No offense mac guys....(i have a mac so you don't need to flame me) - Caulfield, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4@DJNewStyle
When that skit came out, Apple was throwing hardware at just about any production company who needed computer props. Apple has a long history of providing hardware for TV shows. I'm sure it was no accident that that skit used Macs. Either Apple provided the iMacs, or paid to have them used in the skit.
Incidentally, this is perhaps the most intelligent and respectful thread I've ever read on digg. digg++ - Cowboy5995, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wow I never thought that I would see civilized debate in a Mac thread.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8What universe do you live in?
- kolop1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2 That may be true for some windows users, but most Windows users a savvy enough to maintain there PC. Also you are basing the PC being more than a Mac on the what if factor. What if you get a virus, what if you want to up grade. The great thing about a PC is I can upgrade 2 years from now if i want and switch out only the out dated parts. On a Mac if you want to upgrade you have to go buy a whole new Mac. Also Mac charges you per phone call for tech support. Most people o the PC side have at lest 1 friend that can help with the minor problems that their PC may have.
But yeah if you want to live in a world of what if.... then if you buy a PC and everything that can possibly go wrong with it goes wrong with it, then in may end up costing as much as a Mac. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I can't help but think Digg is becoming in a sense, biased. I ponder if this was saying that it's a hard journey this would of got very few diggs.
- Hakai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I say go for it!
- kimos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Most of the DRM won't be enforced when Vista is released.
They'll do like they did with service pack 2 for XP. They'll wait till a bunch of people have gotten comfortable with the OS, then release a pretty much manditory "update" package that will change a whole bunch of things and turn on a bunch of features. In this case, the "features" will include an infection of DRM. -
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