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- intelmustdie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Why is some random nobody's little story about his girlfriend buying a Mac considered important in any way, shape, or form? They bought a Mac and liked it, fine, go post in on a product review site...not Digg.
- nate85, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I'm a mac user... but what does this story have to do with anything? A lot of people have 'switched,' and a lot more have blogged about it.
This belongs on Apple.com/switch, not digg. - MrFisty, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12No Digg.
Stop wasting our time with excessive Mac fanboy *****.
I use Macs every day, I spend a small fortune with them upgrading stuff, I love the machines because they don't crash, but I am so sick of reading about suck ass crap written by people who wish they were on the Apple payroll.
Hey, yesterday I switched toothpaste brands. Would anyone like to hear about it? - kevbob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I am typing this on a PowerBook.
That was a f-ing waste of a link. Let this sink into the oblivion it deserves. - crash331, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5filed under lame. digg sucks now.
- myskja, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'm a mac user (And Windows), I'm happy with it, but I have to say I'm way sick of these "switching stories". It's just operating systems, not drugs or religions. Reported as lame.
- syuusuke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5a story like this makes it on the front page? ***** thats bull *****... seriously.
- richstyles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4this is retarded. Digg should be better than this. The easiest way to get digged is to submit something retarded that praises Apple/Jobs/Mac.rnrnI switched recently to Mac, love it more than any other computer but I could really care less for "mac fanatics"
- intelmustdie, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6"It's like driving your new car off the lot and having your tires fall off 10 minutes later. "Oh, spyware loosened your lugnuts. I'm surprised you didn't hear about it, it's very common. First thing you need to do with your new car is re-tighten those lugnuts and find a free lugnut-protector program. We charge $79 to re-attach your tires, and another $49 to install the lugnut-protector."
NO OTHER INDUSTRY WOULD PUT UP WITH THE ***** OF WINDOWS SECURITY."
It's Microsoft's fault that people don't secure their systems and get viruses and spyware? That's like saying its a housing companies' fault that your stuff got stolen because you forgot to lock your doors. Mac users are just bathing in the luxury of having an OS that is simple as but not as huge of a target as Windows. The more you Mac zealots preach on your soap boxes and convert people to your weird little voodoo orgy oriented religion of Macism the closer you get to having your beloved little OS X line up in the crosshairs of hackers and writers of malicious software. - mistshadow2k4, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"It's Microsoft's fault that people don't secure their systems and get viruses and spyware?"
No other OS out there allows viruses and spyware to be installed at all, so yes it is Microsoft's fault for designing Windows that way in the first place. There have been only 13 Unix viruses in history, so far as I know, and every version of *nix out there has been coded to be immune to those viruses - they virtually don't exist anymore. You can't lay credit to the higher numbers of viruses to Windows' popularity versus Unix, as the entire internet was orginally desinged for Unix and it existed a long, long time before Microsoft.
Much the same can be said for the Mac, although the number of viruses is higher; nevertheless, Mac users have nothing to worry about in that regard. And virsus/spyware on other OSes? Non-existent.
I am so frigging SICK of people saying that it's the users' fault that Windows gets viruses and spyware rather than Microsoft's.If Windows wasn't such a security nightmare to begin with no one would have these problems! Considering Unix's remaining the standard server for decades, it's pretty damn obvious that if it were just a matter of the OS's popularity and poor administration that there would be at least a million Unix viruses out there, but instead there have only been 13. And then people like you claim its the users' fault that Windows gets viruses? Obviously not.
Does Microsoft pay you for spreading these lies? Then what the hell are you doing it for?
Oh, and here's another big newsflash: no matter how good your security is on Windows the chances that you will still get spyware or an occasional virus remain high. Like I just said, thats because Windows was designed so poorly that it allows that happen, combined with its popularity, means that there is simply too much of that crap out there for the anti-spyware and AV programs to ever keep up with. If you think your Windows system has been completely immunized you are simply flat-out wrong.
And I originally looked into this thread to gripe about there being yet another Mac-worshipping spam story with little informative value. Btw, how many does that make for just today? - einsteindesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"...Gee, I can't remember the last time I installed a patch. Just how hard is it to install automatic updates anyway? Macs have holes, there's just nobody hacking OSX...."
I don't have auto-install on because I want to know exactly what goes on my server and when. That's sysadmin 101, bozo.
Macs have far fewer holes and they are quickly patched. We're talking orders of magnitude difference in the number of viruses for each platform.
The last Mac virus I encountered was under OS 8.6 circa 1998, that silly Autostart worm.
Windows: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/enterprise/security/Advisories.html
Self-explanatory. Count the number of times Microsoft appears on that page. - tokyopimp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Oh yes here we go again, another story about how Apple is so much better then Windows!
Ladies and gentlemen, the grass is always greener on the other side. You know why there are know stories of Apple to Windows switchers, is because they are to busy getting work done, and not blogging to justify there purchase of an overpirced Mac. - r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And You can rip and re-link movies quite easily on the Mac, so that's your only "regular task for the above average user", do-able on Windows & OSX.
- cakefart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Digg never ceases to amaze me... World is about to become uninhabitable in 100 years? 5 diggs. Idiot indulges in public computer fetishism? A zillion diggs.
- cvrefugee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2He boasts he can browse the web, read RSS feeds, listen to music and watch videos. You need a Mac for that?
- slainte1971, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3^^ here, here ^^
- joel2600, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4"windows is confusing" "they always make things so complicated"
i'm no microsoft champion, but i can't even begin to agree with this. - Deuterium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just entered college at age 40 after a long military career. I needed a laptop for college and since all my instructors suggested an Apple, I thought I'd give one a whirl. I bought a 12" Ibook. I've had it now for about a month. I still use a Windows box at home. I'm still learning to use the iBook but I can surely tell you a few things I've learned...
1. OS X is NOT as intuitive as all these fanboys say it is. Ipod, yep pretty intuitive, OS X, NOT!!!
2. What's up with the one button mouse? What a stupid idea. Thank God I had a Microsoft mouse with scroll wheel to come to the rescue.
3. I'm sorry Safari just plain sucks. Firefox is WAY better. Hell I'd take IE over Safari any day.
4. My ibook does have impressive look and feel. The keyboard, however, looks cheap, feels cheap, and IS cheap.
5. Many people say they switched because everything "just works." Maybe I'm an anomaly but my HP windows box "just works" as well. It doesn't crash. I haven't seen a crash since my old machine and Windows ME. I run a firewall and Norton and that's it. It's all automatic. I don't do anything. I just turn the machine on and work. I don't spend hours or even minutes or seconds trying to get software to work or even figuring out software. I don't worry about Malware or viruses, Norton takes care of it. I'm also still waiting for this speed-up in productivity I'm supposed to get using a Mac, I'm not seeing any difference, hell my Windows machine even boots faster.
Bottom line for me is that I'm happy with the Mac. But I would also would have been happy with a Windows laptop. All I do is Browse, word process, spreadsheet, Quicken, and some Photoshop. I haven't seen ANY significant differences between a Windows and a MAC. I am happy that I'm learning a new OS. It's just a computer for me, a tool, but then I also don't see much difference between a Craftsman wrench set and a set of Snap-On set either.
Just my thoughts. - r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Namco
"Sure it's great if you just do the basic crap, but when you need that one odd little app to extract an xbox iso, rip & relink movies, rebuild a ps2 iso, or stream to the gamecube, osx just won't do. Aaarrrg, the life of a pirate be Portal....er Winderz based."
Wow and like how many people do that REGULARY?
I'd guess, way less than Apple's Market Share :D - einsteindesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So, mac users are clueless, right? Who better to target for owning a machine? They're frequently in a higher income bracket, they'll have all sorts of junk related to personal finances (Quicken is installed on most Macs), etc etc etc. Hell, they even have a remote desktop client built-in...you could own the machine as if sitting right in front of it!
Perhaps the reason no one has successfully pwned a mac is because you can't. Not without physical access to the machine. - WiseWeasel, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Nicely written and thoughtful.
- Tryforceful, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1pfft screw crApple.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I'm nearly tempted to go buy a Mac. I grew up HATING apples products, because after using DOS for so many years, it just seemed too girly. Sure I used Win3.1 for a few games here and there, but DOS was my thing. Tooling around with gui just seemed so weak and powerless. Especially on the mac. But now that I'm older, and so is microsoft, I'm hating them more and more everyday. If it weren't for the games, I swear I'd have nothing to do with them anymore. Linux is sweet. OSX is based on FBSD, so it inherits sweetness right off the bat. I don't play so many games these days anyway, so a mac wouldn't be such a bad investment. Besides, I like the idea of not worrying about spyware and all the infestations you can go thru with windows.
- Guye, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I love how ever since the ipods became uber popular its all "cool" to love macs now.rnrnSeriously, digg is getting swamped with this stuff
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1what the *****
- tacocat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2As a Mac fanboy this embarrasses me.
Please don't digg this.
Go read some real propaganda like Lenin or Mein Kampf. - einsteindesign, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Oh, and as for the "Mac isn't a big enough target" crap, dontcha think by now someone would be *so* pissed at mac fanboys and Jobs' evangelism that they'd make it their life's goal to take them down somehow? OS X has been around since 2000/2001 and I've yet to see a mainstream media story about a single Mac-centric security issue. Five years is an awfully long time, dontcha think? Something should have surfaced by now.
- zenkenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I always get a kick reading people go ballistic when some writes about how they enjoy using their mac. All that misspent passion! I digg it just for that.
- phlll, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Maybe he has some poetry he can share with us, too.
- BSpolice, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Alright, look here: Windows machines are computers. Mac machines are computers. Nobody really gives a rat's a$$ which anyone uses or how often they switch between the two.
- ryanlynds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0what a beautiful story. man, i think i now fully understand the sheer power and elegance of the macintosh computer. this story is precisely the kind of thing i masturbate to whilst one-buttoning my way to nirvana.
- mattv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What is it about macs that make people think I give a ***** about their silly little opinions?
- Antelope, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Macs are form over function.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've had windows since 98 was new and I've never gotten a virus. This story blows.
Anyone saying OSX is unexploitable, I bet that wouldnt be the case if macs became the new ipod. Hell if the 6th Gen ipod were to link to the internet you'd see tons of malicious code written for it. Why do you think theres viruses for bluetooth[*gasp* not an MS tech!]? It's because bluetooth has established recently a userbase people actually care about. - MasterDwarf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah, thats great.
a guy writes a blog entry on switching computer platforms and that makes front page on digg. Hmm...I am beginning to wonder why people think this is gonna be the /. killer.
HEY GUYS, I am gonna switch to Linux and write a blog entry on it. You'll be seeing it soon... :-) - sedgemonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Digg certainly gets some oddball crap stories pushed to the front page, but 550+ diggs (so far) for some moron's "switch" story?
I didn't read the article, but I bet the following template is pretty close...
[Product A] didn't work how I wanted it to so I switched to [Product B]. Now I'm a zealot who will profess my love for [Product B] to anyone who will listen. [Company that produces Product A] and [CEO of the company that produces Product A] are evil and anyone who uses [Product A] is a big dummy! Now let us sacrifice a chicken to appease my new lord and savior, [CEO of the company that produces Product B]. - zionKing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0no diggity.rnrnpersonally i love OSX, but i find rubbing in this point just makes people skeptical and irritated, and though i dig the story, i do not digg more pissing on the feelings of the usership of a more popular OS. No one will appreciate OSX until they use it. And though it was funny/gratifying/comfortable to see my own experiences reflected in what this guy says, I found OSX by accident, not by listening to others OS fervor. Like most stubborn bastards, hearing this kind of crap would close my mind a little. This feeds the Us/Them demon and numbs people to try something different. And personally, I don't care if other people switch. I care what I did. People should just enjoy using their machines and master them, whatever they are.
- tfaz1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Alright, look here: Windows machines are computers. Mac machines are computers. Nobody really gives a rat's a$$ which anyone uses or how often they switch between the two."
Yeah, you're probably right. In the real world, whatever gets people their porn is what they'll use. But on a tech-centric site such as Digg, seems like a lot of people actually care *how* people get their porn. - brokoli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0NO MORE ADS PLEASE
- harisund, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Boy you just wait.. there will come a time when every guy and his dog will have a mac, and then people will be more motivated to target Safari and Mac OS X with their spyware, malware, adware, viruses and trojans, and people will start screaming, and switching back to PCs...
- tsupersonic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Pretty much this is a story about how this boy loves Mac because he doesn't have to worry about viruses/spyware. I don't what's wrong with you guys, but I thought you would be all technical and smart. Now I own Windows & Macs, so I'm not bias. People here complain of security on Windows, now I thought we were all smart here, throw a virus scanner, a firewall and antispyware software on Windows, she purrs. I don't know what you guys to do to get viruses/spyware, but my (Windows) computers are free from that, it still runs fast. I like Macs too, its just I prefer Windows because of the huge software support. Windows is just natural for me because I have been using it since 3.1 and Macs too from when I can remember and Windows for me just seems faster, it gets the job done for me, without spyware/viruses.
Yes, I too am tired of the Mac/Windows fanboys who come here to rant about their choice of OS. Get over it, don't say Windows sucks, or Macs suck... It's just pointless to tell other people about your preference of OS. I also happen to know that you guys get crazy over anything about iPod, Google, AMD, Apple and other stuff, but don't diss another competitor. - bubba9999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0
Me stupid. Me sad, but now me happy because my computer loves I, and me love back.
Me wish computer no shock when me show love to it.
Is time for medication now? - Cowboy5995, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0One of these days Alice on of these days....l some one is going to mess with macs and then boom straight to the excuses.
- einsteindesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"...You could, except that NO PORTS are open at all, by default, so no traffic is getting in. Do a bit of research..."
Erm, that was my point. You can't accidentally install a rootkit by clicking a single link, which in turn runs a script to open ports and install a client, which in turn opens the machine completely. It would be stupid to have an OS which allowed that, or which by default listened on numerous ports that the average users don't use. That would be negligent. - stugots, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1replace windows with horse and Macintosh with automobile, that's why articles like this are interesting, witnessing the moment of a great technological and social progression
- paul_c, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1One of the lamest stories I have seen on digg. And I'm not just talking front page stuff either.
- Zorn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0All these hysterical comments.
Yeah... but Windows blows and Macs rule. - LeFrenzy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0wow i didn't know commercials were allowed on Digg.
- neocitron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0okay i love my mac but that's going way too far... you CANT love a piece of plastic and metal
- pcgeek101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I'm a mac user... but what does this story have to do with anything? A lot of people have 'switched,' and a lot more have blogged about it. This belongs on Apple.com/switch, not digg."
^^^ wow ... someone with some sense. Not very common on digg. Reported as spam. -
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