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- dcsears, on 01/05/2008, -4/+40"And the most obvious hole in Apple's computer lineup is in the subnotebook category."
I would think that the biggest hole would be a plain 'ol Mac. Ya' know, like a normal desktop. Not a Pro, i, or Mini. - qpid, on 01/05/2008, -0/+34So you want an EEE PC with MORE memory than what Asus puts out for less money than they sell it for? Yeah, I can see Apple doing that....
- happyseamonster, on 01/05/2008, -4/+27FTA: "I'd expect the new little notebook to ship without a traditional hard drive, relying instead on at least 32 gigabytes of flash memory for storage."... this guy acts like he's the first to say these things. Typical media prick.
- jfish, on 01/05/2008, -0/+21Business Week is a few weeks behind on their 'Intel'.
- MyExSucks, on 01/05/2008, -4/+22Is it just me, or do all these mini-laptops look like children's toys? I don't know about you, but I'd rather have my 15 inch screen than an 8-10 inch one
- happyseamonster, on 01/05/2008, -1/+14Don't bother trying to play The Price is Right, you'll get the buzzer.
- garbanzo, on 01/05/2008, -1/+11Something like a smaller cheaper version of the Mac Pro would be awesome! The iMac isn't expandable/upgradeable enough to meet my nerdy desires, and the Mac Pro is overkill and a bit too expensive.
- happyseamonster, on 01/05/2008, -1/+9Your statement makes NO sense.
- johnpaul191, on 01/05/2008, -0/+8The 12" laptop and the 8" sub-notebook thing are different beasts. Unless the 8"-10" device is running regular OS X and can run standard apps, then it's pretty much a giant PDA. That makes a whole different world of products for Apple to market, and another device for developers to figure out. People have floated the idea that the iPhone SDK is delayed till after MacWorld because it will also be for a new device. That would explain why Apple was so tight with the iPhone all along and basically said "ok, 3rd party apps are coming but no info on that till early 2008 (after MacWorld)".
I still see a fair number of people clinging to their 12" powerbooks, and other people that want something like them. I still carry around a 12" ibook because it's so small. I have a desktop with a decent screen at home, so in my bag i want something small, yet more functional than my smartphone. - ToastPop, on 04/17/2009, -4/+11Maybe you're just a typical internet prick who thinks he's cooler because he has read some news online already.
- georgetds, on 01/05/2008, -0/+7It's not the size of your notebook but what you do with it that counts. (wink, wink)
- rickcarson, on 01/05/2008, -2/+916GB won't go very far. A leopard install will run you 8GB+ just for the OS, and then you've got iLife and iWork... Even a 40GB machine starts to feel very cramped very quickly.
- inactive, on 01/05/2008, -0/+6Considering that the 8GB iPhone is selling for $400, you have a pipe dream my dear friend!
- Orng, on 01/05/2008, -0/+5I agree. Same specs as the iMac, but customizable, and without a screen. Why should I pay for a monitor when i already have one? The Mac Mini is too underpowered for me. Mostly that useless integrated graphics card. a Tower in the iMac range would be perfect.
- noahhoward, on 01/05/2008, -0/+5You're worried about Intel becoming a monopoly or Apple? Apple is far from a monopoly obviously. If Intel destroys AMD in fair competition then they are not a monopoly, they are the end result of fair competition played to its fullest extent. They got there by being the best at what they do, not by locking manufacturers or consumers to any one tool.
- schnikies79, on 01/05/2008, -2/+6Not me. In a notebook I want portability, not size. Granted an 8in is a little small, but 15+ is just too big.
- jayhawk, on 01/05/2008, -0/+4many of us have desktops for big work, but want something light and mobile to take with us on the go. we still have the big display at home when we need it.
- sinembarg0, on 01/05/2008, -1/+4He is a ***** tech writer. SSD is not flash.
- Gadwin, on 01/05/2008, -0/+3I should digg this just because the title is hilarious.
- jasmith33, on 01/05/2008, -0/+3I'm waiting to buy an iPhone until after Macworld - I don't think Apple release iPhone 2.0 yet, but if I buy one the week before they probably will! ;)
- inactive, on 01/05/2008, -0/+3travel much?
- t0ny, on 01/05/2008, -0/+3I see what you did there.
- xGrill, on 01/05/2008, -1/+4whats a prick?
whats a house?
whats the internet? - inactive, on 01/05/2008, -0/+3if that happens it will be your worst nightmare. Apple doesn't have as many problem is because they have complete control over the hardware. there are barely 10 types of configuration that Apple has to deal with now but imagine the literally Billion types of combo the Linux and Windows Deal with. Driver related problem and non optimisation is gonna something that apple frankly cant handle.
- Refrag, on 01/06/2008, -0/+2Power Macs used to be available for relatively cheap and filled this need quite well. You used to be able to get one for $1500 or less. After they transitioned to Intel processors, even the low end Mac Pro is $2200 which is close to $1000 more. They do now need something to fill the gap.
- antitab, on 01/06/2008, -1/+3"Nerds and geeks don't use Macs."
Yeah man this terminal and suite of UNIX utilities + package manager (MacPorts) has gone to complete waste for me oh wait. - Narfmaster, on 01/06/2008, -0/+2I've got a 15.4" macbookpro, but that doesn't stop me wanting something even smaller to put inside a bag while traveling or to take out and about all day.
- inactive, on 01/07/2008, -0/+2Too underpowered for what? Looking at filth and stealing movies I bet. And some crappy photoshopping.
- dhmlco, on 01/06/2008, -1/+3They could also make it a lot smaller by moving to iPod-sized microdrives. Those are up to what, what, 160GBs?
- inactive, on 01/07/2008, -0/+2Get an EEEPC and piss off you idiot.
- Eraser85, on 01/05/2008, -0/+2you missed the point, associate989.
- garbanzo, on 01/06/2008, -1/+3The last time I did a feature for feature comparison between a Mac Pro and a Dell workstation, the cost difference was less than 10%. The Mac was cheaper. How about pulling your head out of your ass FrantiX?
- jonahan52, on 01/05/2008, -0/+2Umm have you been living under a rock? They said they are releasing an SDK in February.
- TherealObadiah, on 01/05/2008, -3/+5Lemme guess what Jobs won't announce. He won't announce a further lockdown of the iPod loop like the little stunt Apple pulled by not telling anyone they added a secret chip preventing the use of the iPod classic with aftermarket video. Hmmm...seems Apple and Sony must be sharing corporate accountants and managers these days.
- drouk1556, on 01/05/2008, -0/+2What are you talking about?
- TehDoctor, on 01/05/2008, -2/+4SCHESTOWITZ SHUT THE ***** UP AND STOP POSTING COMMENTS TO EVERY GODDAMN ARTICLE YOU SEE TRYING TO PUSH YOUR ***** WACKJOB IDEALISM EVERYWHERE YOU THINK YOU CAN STICK IT!
No one likes it, no one reads it, no one diggs it, and you make normal linux users like me look bad. JUST ***** STOP ALREADY. - MacEnvy, on 01/05/2008, -0/+2Good luck carrying that desktop to class with you.
- WestN, on 01/05/2008, -1/+2do you belive in this yourself?....well i would buy it if it was sub 700
- jm1234567890, on 01/06/2008, -0/+1But those aren't fast enough for desktop use
- MacEnvy, on 01/05/2008, -0/+1Not to mention that even if they completely eliminated AMD as a competitor, they still wouldn't be a monopoly considering PPC, ARM, and the other multitude of processor options out there.
- MacEnvy, on 01/05/2008, -0/+1The EeePC uses an x86 processor too, just so you're aware. It runs a Celeron-M.
- inactive, on 01/07/2008, -0/+1Not fast enough.
Like my comment. - inactive, on 01/05/2008, -1/+2Its better on the PSP. Seriously.
- inactive, on 01/08/2008, -0/+132? Why not 30?
- Veni_Vidi_Vici, on 01/05/2008, -2/+2I wonder if 3rd party iphone apps is an item on their list -
Ah, nvm Who am I kidding. - noname202, on 01/07/2008, -0/+0All non-volatile SSD drives I've heard of are NAND flash.
- associate989, on 01/05/2008, -0/+0Congratulations! Not only are you persistent, but you are also apparently incapable of the most basic content analysis. If you're too thick to catch that, it means, "You missed the whole point."
Here's the breakdown. I claim all x86 laptops incur a "tax" because they are laptops, which by simple deduction means that they are NOT desktops. Following that line of thought, it means that desktops do not incur the additional fees ("tax[es]") that laptops do; or, a desktop system will always be cheaper than it's x86 laptop equivalent. I even list the reasons for this fee, all of which make perfect sense: "the inclusion of a screen, custom-built logic boards, higher prices for smaller and less power-hungry components, and the fact that you can take your computer with you." This should solidify my inference that desktops do NOT incur a fee, and are thus cheaper, since they do not include these features.
Your reply stating that the "EeePC uses an x86 processor too" made sense to me, at the time. Here's my interpretation, extrapolated: "The EeePC uses an x86 processor, and it is so cheap that it may not incur this 'tax' when compared to a desktop equivalent." So I think, "Good point. Time to look up the specs and see for myself, especially since I did make that broad general statement." Upon Googling the technical specifications, I thought I had a solid argument that, "No. The EeePC's performance can be obtained and even surpassed by a cheaper desktop, therefore my statement stands true." I even wrote a post explaining how one would go about achieving that.
"Good luck carrying that desktop to class with you." Wow. Just wow. Maybe you missed my original point, but I thought I made it awfully clear in my reply: Yes, all laptops incur additional cost compared to their desktop equivalent, even the EeePC. However your reply makes it painfully obvious that not only did it fly over your head the first time (which, presented as an inference, is almost understandable), but even in the face of clear explanation, you seem oblivious to the point. And so, if nothing else is to be said, I wish you the best of luck and sincerely suggest "The Elements Of Style" by Strunk and White as an excellent guide for learning some of the more delicate nuances of the English language. It is an excellent book. - weddle, on 01/06/2008, -1/+1How about an announcement of a 32GB iphone that is not only for AT&T?
I can dream can't I.... - Daniel591992, on 01/05/2008, -2/+2It's actually really nice on the iPhone and iPod Touch when you're not at home.
- associate989, on 01/05/2008, -2/+2You're forgetting the universal "notebook tax" that applies to all x86 laptops, and also the infamous Apple policy of "we don't go cheap; cheap is for beige boxes". The "notebook tax" is primarily due to the inclusion of a screen, custom-built logic boards, higher prices for smaller and less power-hungry components, and the fact that you can take your computer with you, all of which are going to jack up the price. Apple's specific ideology goes back to the "Honda and Porsche" comparison: they both get you from point A to point B, but like anything, you get what you pay for. Given the popularity of the PowerBook G4, I'm gonna go with a 12" screen, no optical drive, aluminum chassis, dedicated graphics, and a C2D running the show. Maybe an SSD. What does that mean? We're looking at $1k at least, probably more like $1500.
The good news is that Apple's educational discounts are really quite good, and not only is the machine going to last you, but it's going to have a high resale value. Since it will probably fill the hole between the MacBook and the MacBook Pro, or augment the pro line at the bottom, it's going to cost consumers. But hey, I lusted after a black MacBook for sixteen months before I had the money, and it was worth every penny. To conclude: Apple = Pricey, perhaps worth it, YMMV. -
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