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- cloudyskies41, on 01/29/2009, -3/+51AT&T: "What are we doing tonight, Apple?"
Apple: "Same thing we do every night, AT&T: TRY AND TAKE OVER THE WORLD!"
This is how I imagine the conversation arose. - digitalpencil, on 01/29/2009, -2/+363G note/netbooks are inevitable.. it'll allow manufacturers to bundle packages with service providers. I just hope it's not that long until we can get open connectors, and choose our own service providers rather than being stuck to AT&T/O2.
- motivatedguy, on 01/29/2009, -1/+24Just allow tethering on the ***** iPhone!!!! If I buy a 3G enabled macbook and own an iPhone does that mean I have to pay ***** AT&T twice? ***** that!
- Platypus3333, on 01/29/2009, -1/+23A laptop locked into a single service provider, with a monthly fee, strikes me as a profoundly bad deal. I hope that this is not what they intend.
- Devo420, on 01/29/2009, -3/+17Apple,
Please develop a netbook which can:
- Work with multiple 3G networks (Not just AT&T in the U.S)
- Be affordable, a lower price point then the basic Macbook line
- Offer better student discounts
Signed,
A Zillion Customers Who Would Buy That ***** - johnwiz, on 01/29/2009, -8/+173G sucks
- MacParrot, on 01/29/2009, -1/+9Yet another child left behind
- BrendanSheehan, on 01/29/2009, -1/+7So if you live outside the US you can suck it? Seriously though, it would be handy not have to plug in, deal with, or set up a dongle. As long as it's HSDPA++500AXM<<<HTRT that is.
And for those of you begging for an Apple netbook, I just recently had to use a netbook; it was a painfully slow (and cramped) experience. An Apple netbook is something I don't care for, don't mind long for. - MacEnvy, on 01/29/2009, -1/+6Entry-level Apple notebooks haven't had a card slot in over a decade, so I don't know what you're talking about putting it "back" for.
- rpark, on 01/30/2009, -0/+5I don't think I've ever seen a card that sits in flush.
- bmwracer84, on 01/29/2009, -1/+6Thats a great concept but as long as it has anything to do with AT&T I won't buy it. Truth is At&t sucks and so does their 3G. Just an excuse to charge more because its on a Mac.
- oo7evan, on 01/29/2009, -4/+9Can they do it on a network that doesn't have terrible coverage? Just a crazy thought.
- killerofkiller, on 01/29/2009, -2/+6it will also be $799...
- MacParrot, on 01/29/2009, -1/+5Picturing ATT sounding like Pinky was enough for a plus digg
- BossKey, on 01/30/2009, -2/+6> What's next? You make a laptop that can be docked to a station?
They did that in 1992, PowerBook Duo - sigmaman2, on 01/29/2009, -1/+5Netbooks are smaller, lighter, and easier to carry. They boot faster than standard notebooks, especially with SSD drives. So, you can get where you are going easier, and get started working faster than you could with a standard config laptop. And web browsers have been loading up fine on machines since the pentium 1 days. That's not an issue.
The issue is that not everyone needs a 17" quad core Blu-Ray laptop just to surf and email. If you don't need it, you shouldn't have to buy it. I don't have my netbook yet, but with this technology, a step back is a step forward. - KibibyteBrain, on 01/30/2009, -0/+4As someone who has worked with macs for over a decade, you start to learn early on that it wouldn't be an Apple product if it wasn't about 99.9% solid with some sort of strange catch associated with it.
- Edfrommars, on 01/29/2009, -6/+9Coming from someone who avidly prefers Apple, a netbook would be a terrible idea. I don't understand why anyone in their right mind would buy a computer that can barely load up a web browser, has a 10" screen, and has a keyboard so small that even a child can barely type on it.
Netbooks are a step back for technology. - PilotHead, on 01/29/2009, -1/+4Why is this good again? now you have to sign a 2 year contract for a laptop too?
Just get the usb aircard itself, they are typically free anyway with monthly access. I doubt Apple will discount they're hardware that much over a contract with ATT. - miggyb, on 01/30/2009, -0/+3because these babby cant frigth back
- DavidChouinard, on 01/29/2009, -2/+5Notice the verb "discussing", a very different one that "announcing"
- TimDigg, on 01/29/2009, -1/+4simple you're an avid gamer like who prefers desktops in general
but wouldn't mind a cheap pc for coffee shops and so on every now and then - KibibyteBrain, on 01/30/2009, -0/+3EVDO is a 3G(third generation) cellular technology. 3G does not suck, its quite good technologically. Its just most 3G service in the USA sucks. Don't confuse technology with its implementation.
HSDPA newtork providers in the USA are particularly under powered so that is mainly why EVDO gets a good wrap here, but there is little real difference between them in terms of theoretical performance, and in both cases the actual practical networks are way too underpowered to even reach those academic levels. - arcticsoft, on 01/29/2009, -1/+4Go to your current provider and ask about mobile broadband options. They will give you a usb adapter and your set. Yeah its not the best service, but its better than a crappy 3g service that only works in certain areas. Plus you can use anyone you want.
- NikeUnltd, on 01/30/2009, -0/+3!?!?!?! data plan on a Laptop?!
please consider the cost, $60 monthy contract for 1 or 2 years from ATT to have a LAPTOP DATA PLAN with a 5 gb cap.
if you are on a laptop with high speed internet, ur most likely going to spent all that in about a week. I rather tether my cellphone 3g connection to my laptop to save me a whole lot more money (15$ a month 3g add on for unlimited internet from att). - FredFredrickson, on 01/29/2009, -1/+43G is terrible compared to wireless. Not to mention having a whole computer tied to AT&T's service. No thanks.
- sbluetruck, on 01/30/2009, -0/+3John Hancock
- superkendall, on 01/29/2009, -1/+4You can already use an express card, or USB adaptor, to get on 3G networks from a laptop today...
What stops me from doing so is the insanity of not giving any kind of price break to people who already have an iPhone. I can understand wanting to charge a bit more as laptops use more data, but if I'm not using my laptop then I'll be using my phone and vice-versa - I'll end up using almost as much bandwidth anyway, and they could be getting a bit of extra revenue from me per month for something I don't need that often. - Wogger, on 01/30/2009, -0/+2If they do create 3G macbooks, I hope they will work internationally. The frequencies used for 3G are different all over the world.
- mogebier, on 01/30/2009, -1/+3Um.... aren't iphone owners having a lot of problems with AT&T's spotty 3G service?
Why would Apple think they would get it fixed any time soon? - Platypus3333, on 01/29/2009, -3/+5I think you overestimate how much trouble netbooks have with web browsers.
- MacParrot, on 01/29/2009, -1/+3I would LOVE a netbook from Apple. Something just to quickly take on the road. I'm seriously looking at an MSI Wind to put OS X on. Don't always want to take a 15.4-inch laptop with me if all I need is email and browsing or just a few other simple functions
- macshaggy, on 01/30/2009, -0/+2Great it doesn't add another $30 to my bill. I already have two all you can eat data plans. Which I still don't get? For family plans why can't I just pay for 1 data plan for all 3 phones in my plan? I'd much rather pay $45.00 for all three to be on the data plan. And while I'm at it - extra for unlimited texting??? Uh, shouldn't that be covered in the data plan?
- RobotBuddha, on 01/30/2009, -0/+2Depends on you needs. I have both an eee and a macbook. I've found I actually travel with the eee far more than I do the mac. I wouldn't use the eee for intensive coding or anything, but it does the job for....well, the net.
- mmittimm, on 01/29/2009, -1/+3How's the free nationwide wifi idea coming? Not only would it save a lot of money for a lot of people but it would be a huge step foward in technology for the US.
- svensksvamp, on 02/01/2009, -0/+2or they could just lower the price on the macbook air?
- arcticsoft, on 01/30/2009, -2/+4I bought a netbook just to try it out. I agree with calling it a cramped experience. After about 10 minutes your eyes hurt and typing sucks with any of the models out. 600 vertical pixels even in browsing is not enough room for anything usable. Youtube videos don't even fit on the screen because of the address bar and menus in the browser. I like small and light, but only good for checking email and watching a netflix movie, that about it.
- BEDrocko, on 01/31/2009, -0/+2...and how many times did brain take over the world?
:-)
L2Laugh - timeshifter, on 01/30/2009, -0/+23G / EVDO service on laptops is where Wi-Fi was about five years ago - you have to add a card! There's a handful of laptops out there that have the ability to have it built-in. I'm typing this on one - a Dell Vostro 1500. It didn't come with the card from the factory (I didn't order it that way), but the slot and the antenna wires and the SIM card slot were already there. I picked up an AT&T WWAN card cheap and popped it in there. I took the SIM from another AT&T data card account, installed the software from Dell. Works great. No external dongles, or anything else to carry. Hi speed Internet just about anywhere.
All the manufacturer has to do is offer three different cards (in the US) - one for ATT one for Sprint and one for Verizon. Not a big deal.
Oh, by the way. I've got 3G built in to my Acer Aspire One too. I can freely swap the SIM in and out of the two. - nugx, on 01/30/2009, -1/+33G is slow as balls, and AT&T is arguably the worst service provider in the nation. This is a giant waste of effort.
- FredFredrickson, on 01/29/2009, -1/+3Probably true, but which one shouts out "narf!" all the time?
- darienphoenix, on 01/30/2009, -0/+2Seconded. A million times.
- rimantas, on 01/30/2009, -1/+2You have other manufacturers to choose from if you want cheap products.
Signed,
Apple - Billions, on 01/30/2009, -0/+1I guess I'll just post the obligatory comment that they could just allow tethering and we could use our iPhones.
- SteveMax, on 01/30/2009, -0/+1This is a problem only in the USA, everywhere else in the world you have only one standard which is HSDPA (the one AT&T and T-Mobile use) at 2100MHz (AT&T uses 850MHz, T-Mobile uses 1700MHz; some others use 850MHz in other countries too). For global roaming, you can get a 2100/850MHz dual radio, which will work anywhere with any HSDPA network in the planet (except T-Mobile), which would be as close to the ubiquitiousness of WiFi as you can get under current standards. All you need is a local SIM card or be prepared to pay for roaming.
In the USA you still have CDMA carriers which use a totally different encoding and signalling, you'd need a second radio and a second CPU to be able to handle that. CDMA is a much more closed standard too, so it's much harder to make it work with different providers. - pedepy, on 01/30/2009, -0/+13G isnt that slow... I tether my iphone to my laptop and usually get around 200-250 kb/s transfer.
what kills 3G is latency times, which really hurt protocols like HTTP where many, many requests are made for just one 'element' (ie, web page).
but if you download a single file you can see 3G isnt all that bad for a truly wireless/anywhere internet acess technology. - SteveMax, on 01/30/2009, -0/+1So, since the EVDO service from Vivo in Brazil sucked (actually, it sucked so much that they switched 100% to GSM and HSDPA) and they called it "3G", none of the HSDPA networks (including Vivo) should use the term 3G despite it being a technical term with a very specific meaning that has NOTHING to do with either GSM or CDMA?
All your post says is that AT&T seems to have better marketing than Sprint in the USA, since people seem to think of them when they see a much broader term, just like Coke with soda. - pedepy, on 01/30/2009, -0/+1what, you dont have a 'plan' with your current internet 'data' provider ?
it wont work with contracts imo .. anyway, it shouldnt. and it shouldnt be capped and it shouldnt be much more expansive that what youd expect to pay for high speed internet access from /anywhere/. (that is, a little more than high speed internet from just your home).
and uh yea they should roll out more towers and processing power to handle the extra load to ensure the highest 3G speeds possible. - 4t0mik, on 01/30/2009, -0/+1Those caps will come off...you wait and see.
- pedepy, on 01/30/2009, -0/+1tethering is allowed in Canada :)))))))))))))))))))
wanna trade it with hulu ? :/ -
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