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- Graemebru, on 10/10/2007, -5/+64Solution: Complain to the FCC. Really Loud.
- fjc8, on 10/10/2007, -6/+50They don't have to provide unlock codes. They never had to and still don't have to.
The DMCA "exception" for unlocking phones means that you the terms of the DMCA do not apply when reverse engineering your phone in order to unlock it.
In order for AT&T to provide unlock codes for a phone model, the phone must have the capability to be unlocked via codes and the codes must be provided somehow by the phone's manufacturer...
/I've got a few unlocked AT&T phones
//none of them are the iPhone - Motocompo, on 10/12/2007, -15/+51GEEZ! Quite whining already...
Don't buy the phone if you don't like what they offer you! - mmazing, on 10/10/2007, -2/+36I don't get it, if everyone is so mad at Apple/AT&T about whatever contract they have going, why don't you return the damn thing until they loosen up on all this crap.
- big3fan, on 10/10/2007, -4/+34AT&T..... i learned to stay far away from them a-holes a long time ago
- rupprupp29, on 10/10/2007, -2/+25"Unlocked phones are good for consumers."
Then stay away from AT&T. It's called competition: if you don't like how someone does business, do your business elsewhere. Welcome to capitalism. - TotalHalibut, on 10/10/2007, -4/+26Why? On your say so?
- sanotaan, on 10/10/2007, -4/+25Better solution: don't buy the goddamn phone
- howinsidious, on 10/10/2007, -6/+25It's not illegal to unlock the phone, as per the DMCA. HOWEVER: AT&T and Apple do not have to help you unlock the phone by providing you with the codes, and you aren't actually allowed to distribute an unlocking method if you discover it.
If you hate the iPhone THAT MUCH,and it's SO HORRIBLE and OMG RON PAUL ET CETERA, just don't buy one, stop Digging anti-iPhone stories, and be happy with whatever ridiculous LG throwaway your provider gave you for free because apparently it's just that much better than the iPhone! - freakguy54321, on 10/10/2007, -7/+23Those Bitches
- lohphat, on 10/10/2007, -4/+19Honest question: Is anyone entitled to the unlock codes based upon the restrictions of the contract they read and signed?
I mean, if the terms said you can't unlock the phone until your contract term is up or you'll pay an early termination fee. Where's the beef?
If you don't like AT&T then don't do business with them, don't whine after you've already signed up AND AGREED to the terms. - Chewie67, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Hello Fying Pan, meet Fire.
Sprint sucks too. - TotalHalibut, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15Ahh yes, now we get to the real reason people own Apple technology. Don't get me wrong, it's great to see technology concentrating on the asthetic, and general appeal, but not at the expense of functionality.
- dsheli, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14He never should have switched from T-Mobile. Now that he did, I say let AT&T milk him for all he's worth. He was the dumb a*s who signed the two year contract with them. I unlocked my phone and use it on t-mobile. Great I cant buy the gay songs at starbucks...
- kenwestin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11My hero.
You know what forget the iPhone. I am buying a Nokia N95, that thing has built in GPS and a whole lot of other stuff the iPhone cannot come close to...oh yeah and they are developer friendly. - saisumimen, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12"Cuz it's so puuurty."
- TheLoneWolf071, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Please quit whining. Ok, so you paid for it, and it's yours, but AT&T can do what they want. They never said you can do 3rd party apps, they never said you can unlock it, they did no such things. Now, since you went against what they want you to do, when the update comes out you cry foulplay? Give me a break...
- Sneakernets, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9You know, I DID that, until my wireless carrier was bought by AT&T...
- itomixdotcom, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Because the law says you can unlock the phone
- saisumimen, on 10/10/2007, -5/+13On jelly beans, you *****. Use your head.
- tnoy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Dugg you up. Unlocking is not a right, it just is not illegal under the umbrella of the DMCA. It also means that unlocking is not 100% legal. Apple/AT&T could sue someone under terms other than the DMCA. I've yet to hear about something of this nature being brought to court--it would be interesting to see the outcome.
- mbthompson, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12Thank you AT&T! (for convincing me to switch to Sprint)
- scbajmr, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Bad news people, AT&T has exclusive rights to the iPhone. You all knew it. It was never a secret. If you bought one, then it's your fault, not Apple or AT&T.
There are tons of other phones available and quite a few cell phone providers. Quite whining and go with someone else. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10it amazes me how:
a. this ***** still gets DUGG
b. people who voluntarily hacked their iPhone want the manufacturer and/or service provider to replace it when it breaks
moronic *****, you all need kicking in the ***** for wasting our time with this inane blithering. YOU broke it, YOU pay for it. - Rabbittt, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Hey, I have an idea.. Instead of choosing a phone that fits what I am looking for, I'll just pick the phone I like the most -- then I'll petition the government to force my personal phone needs on the company that made it! What else can the government do for us? Everything, just keep asking!
/sarcasm - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8How can you be a monopoly with less than 30% of the market?
- fjc8, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7But they're not relocking the phones. The new software doesn't work with the third party modifications that bypass the lock.
They have no obligation to keep their closed system interoperable with unauthorized third-party modifications that Apple doesn't endorse or support. - jbmercha, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Hacker's have done it with software. So it is possible
- TotalHalibut, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Alternatively buy a phone that actually IS better than the iPhone and quit whining anyway. Yes, if you want this overblown, over-sized, underpowered fashion-accessory, then go right on ahead. As usual with Apple products, if you want actual functionality, buy elsewhere.
- V1ncent, on 10/10/2007, -6/+12As feasible as this guy:
To: FCC
Subj: Waaaa!
Dear Sir, please force Microsoft to unlock the DRM on those movies I rented from an online rental service. WAAAA!!!!
(morons) - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8I love this part:
"As it has been close to 90 days since I have had service with AT&T, and with an account in good standing, as is customary I was attempting to unlock my cellphone as I am planning some International travel."
90 ***** days? Is he kidding me? I've been a loyal Verizon customer for over 5 years and still wouldn't try and push my luck after hacking my own phone.
some people are just born ***** morons. - monkeywaffles, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9They aren't under any obligation to provide you with a code or any method of unlocking it. No law says it must. The FCC doesn't give a damn. Grow up. 'wahh i bought a 600 dollar cell phone (at the time), and now i am whining about the extra 100 bucks i might have to spend in international calls through the at&t plan.. even though i just came from tmobile and still have my old phone and could use that.. but wahhh then i wont be able to show my UK friends my jesus phone'
Seriously, he should just use his tmobile phone internationally, or just buy an unlocked old phone for $10 online. Cripes, give me a break. - sallos, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5This whole thing really has nothing to do with Bush. Good job on finding a completely pointless way of working him in though.
- Naga10, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5They teach us that here in Canada, too. He's just an idiot. He does not represent all of us.
- ivandir, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Well that is one way of avoiding the problem. The other way is to try and stop it from happening again and again and again and again.
We need to step up to the plate and go against companies like AT&T instead of learning to stay away from them. - neeyo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I have no respect for anyone that complains about this ***** _AFTER_ buying the phone. You knew the iphone would only work on AT&T's network, and you knew it had a required 2 year contract, yet you bought it anyway and are now complaining about it. If it was that big of a burden on you to be tethered to AT&T, you wouldn't have bought the phone in the first place. STFU and live with your decision.
- gustasonfrever, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Would you people please shut the ***** up? All you are is a bunch of whiny *****. You agreed to the terms of apple and At&t unless they agreed to give you a number to unlock the phone you don't just deserve one. Go bitch to mommy government some more. Grow some
- kevinwiz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Shhh don't get fired.
- JamesWilson, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Buried Ronpaul hate speech
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4A SMART group of people would know that there is nothing the FCC would or could do, since AT&T's actions are perfectly acceptable and reasonable.
- dofe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4What balance? AT&T agreed to an exlusive deal with Apple over the iphone. What next? Complain that you can't run windows software on your Apple?
- glbanksitter, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Can we please stop digging everything that shows up on Consumerist?
For the love of god, this was on TUAW (And subsequently, the Digg front page) last week! - adrianmonk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3If you don't support what AT&T is doing, then don't buy the damned phones that they're selling!
- youareretarded, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3No, providers do not have to provide unlock codes, period!
- adrianmonk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Indeed. When you buy a locked phone, you are making a deal: you are accepting a restriction on the phone in exchange for a subsidy on the hardware from the carrier.
There is nothing complex about this. It's just like all the other various forms of agreements out there where you trade money for some kind of guarantee or restriction. For example, you can pay cash to the owner of some real estate in exchange for the right of first refusal. They get cash, and what you get in exchange is the opportunity to buy the property if and when they try to sell it. Likewise, futures markets trade the option to buy a particular thing at a particular price on a particular date; you're exchanging money for a commitment.
It's exactly the same with locked cell phones. The company is paying you money (in the form of a discount on the hardware) in exchange for keeping the phone locked to their service for however long you agreed to.
If you entered an agreement like this and it bothers you, maybe the best response is to examine your tendency to sign on the dotted line without knowing what you're getting into. That would appear to be the real problem here.
Oh, and by the way, I HATE AT&T. I just happen to believe that in this case, they aren't doing anything wrong at all. - specialK16, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Oh you know how to use sarcasm! You are so cool, you are my internet hero!!!!
- EarlOfLade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Spot on!
This was no surprise, it was obvious long before the phones were in the stores. - sanotaan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Wow, nice. In America, they teach us how to punctuate sentences.
- SirBotchness, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You can't jump off a building and bitch cause the end result sucked. It's your fault for buying it, they said no 3rd party software, did you listen?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Are you getting a kick out of those replies?
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