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- DarkDx, on 06/29/2008, -19/+266THAT'S OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!!!!
- Cityhues, on 06/29/2008, -10/+157Time for some numbers Rogers:
Let's face it - Rogers doesn't care much about it's customers, what it does care about is revenue and shareholder value.. so let's take a look at what these poorly introduced plans mean to the bottom line. (Of course I'm using some pretty broad assumptions, but bear with me).
There are currently 11,400 individuals that have signed the ruinediphone.com petition. Lets assume that most of these (say 60%) are motivated Canadian iPhone consumers and that they are so ticked off with Rogers that they will not be obtaining the iPhone that they otherwise would have, had the plans been fair and reasonable.
Let's assume based on the average pricing plan - assume $90/month unrealized revenue to Rogers for 36 months for 6840 (11,400*60%) potential iPhone customers. This means $22,161,600 in lost Rogers revenue. PLUS an average price of $250 per iPhone times 6840 customers, equals $1,710,000.
Total cost (so far to Rogers) is about $23 Million in lost revenue. Nice going !! - davecachia, on 06/29/2008, -7/+148Dear Mr. Jobs,
Please punch Mr. Rogers in the face.
Thank you,
Signed
Over 9000 - dbbradle, on 06/29/2008, -5/+85I hope this somehow makes in impact.
If not, I won't be using Rogers any longer. - benburned, on 06/29/2008, -2/+74I came in here just to find and digg this comment.
goodbye - Hayes, on 06/29/2008, -3/+61Who the ***** needs a petition? Just don't buy one, and the rest will take care of itself.
- rjpaulisick, on 06/29/2008, -1/+57How about writing a petition to Rogers...??
- inactive, on 06/29/2008, -2/+56let's not forget current Rogers subscribers ( like me ) who are canceling accounts because of this con job. Telus is offering unlimited bandwidth, and I've made the move.
- AdamSnow, on 06/29/2008, -2/+52As much as I hope it does - It's unfortunate that any of these petitions, etc. will have ANY impact...
Rogers is not going to change their pricing model... I'm all for trying though. - greathair, on 06/29/2008, -5/+50This has nothing to do with Steve Jobs or the iPhone. Apple is 100% fine in this case.
This has to do with ROGERS / FIDO and their unfair pricing plans. - dzw120, on 06/29/2008, -1/+45Remember, though, that there are other Rogers customers. If I can sell 10 apples for $1 each, or 15 apples for $0.50 each, I'd still go for the 10 apples - and you can't simply say that I've lost (15-10)*$0.50 = $2.50 in revenue, because there are costs associated with my price cutting, just like there are costs associated with losing customers.
- Enche, on 06/29/2008, -4/+45WHAT
NINE THOUSAND - inactive, on 06/29/2008, -0/+40All cellular service in Canada is expensive. It's a ***** joke - and no one seems to really care.
- JFallon126, on 06/29/2008, -2/+39As much as I love a good old petition I'm afraid the maxim "Money talks" is going to work the best here. Too expensive? Then don't buy it. Lackluster sales are the best way to get a price drop.
- icurnvs, on 06/29/2008, -1/+32Perhaps you should petition Rogers about the price plans, not Apple. The carriers set the data plans, not the device manufacturers.
- inactive, on 06/29/2008, -0/+30They are the only GSM carrier in Canada.
This is why we are pissed - cambob76, on 06/29/2008, -16/+46IF it's too expensive, DON'T BUY IT. Simple. Unless you want to be a crybaby, crybaby.
- sonictonic, on 06/29/2008, -5/+34Why are they bugging Steve? If anything it should be addressed to Rogers. HELLO??!! Steve Jobs runs Apple not Rogers!
Christ all mighty - people expect him to handle everything. - bwa236, on 06/29/2008, -3/+28they claim that the 2GB cap is good for 16,000 webpages?? How many 125kb webpages are there anymore? that's BS
- tvanwyk, on 06/29/2008, -4/+29No *****. Instead off grovelling on the ground like some spoiled, marketing-infatuated yuppies, have some dignity and buy something else.
(Instead, they'll digg us both down.) - tocsy, on 06/29/2008, -14/+38Problem: Phone is also overpriced.
Solution: Get a different phone. - charm803, on 06/29/2008, -5/+28Taken from the article comments:
If we put half as much energy into fixing social problems like homelessness and the environment as we do going to war over the high price of a toy we may actually progress as a society.
Posted By Cameron, Calgary, AB : June 29, 2008 2:08 pm - ZimbuTheMonkey, on 06/29/2008, -0/+23Yes, that's a loss of 23 million (based on your numbers) because of those that will NOT adopt the iPhone. But you haven't figured the amount of revenue that Rogers will generate with the current price of the plans versus the amount it would generate with lower priced plans. You need to calculate the opportunity cost for both situations. It could be that Rogers stands to gain more with the current plans WITHOUT those 6840 people than it would WITH lower prices and WITH those 6840 people.
- BMANZZS, on 06/29/2008, -5/+28Digg: 9,000 Canadians petition Steve Jobs for iPhone rate relief
Fortune: 10,000 Canadians petition for iPhone rate relief
Zomg? - Terry, on 06/29/2008, -1/+22I think this is the "straw that broke the camel's back". Canadians have been screwed with ridiculous rates, and not to mention the system access fee (wtf?) What's worst, there's monopoly, and these iPhone plans are just a big "*****-you" to Canada.
- wanderson, on 06/29/2008, -6/+26Yeah, Steve Jobs, give us some of that internet monaaay!
- ZimbuTheMonkey, on 06/29/2008, -1/+18Holy *****, I can't believe some idiot dugg you down...
- alpha88, on 06/30/2008, -0/+17Um. No.
- panteradactyl, on 06/29/2008, -0/+15What does the petition say about his power level?
- inactive, on 06/29/2008, -3/+18Solution: Buy an Ipod touch and get a ***** phone
Problem solved! - S1ngular1ty1, on 06/29/2008, -1/+15I think he hit the nail on the head. If you can't afford it then don't buy it. I want a Ferrari but I can't afford it but I don't go crying and complaining to Ferrari to lower the price of their cars.
- smcavoy, on 06/29/2008, -0/+14Rogers doesn't care, they don't have to.
The benefit of being the ONLY GSM provider in Canada. - pjr12345, on 06/29/2008, -4/+18What a laugh.
It's called free enterprise. If you don't like it, don't buy it. If enough people don't buy, the price will be lowered. The fact that 9,000 Yahoos demonstrate their desire to own the device is a sure-fire way to keep the price high. - vancanucksfan, on 06/29/2008, -4/+17BS. Those are not all canadians. That petition was posted on digg numerous times, on various forums. Also if you even look at some of the comments on the petition, its a bunch of people saying stuff like, im not canadian but screw rogers.
- Ziqing, on 06/29/2008, -1/+13When Rogers do stupid ***** like imposing a monthly bandwidth all of the sudden out of no where, it pisses me off so much. I just went over my 25gb per month limit today and I will have to pay $2.5 for EACH additional gigabyte. That's freakin insane. I can't even change to another provider even if i wanted to because Rogers monopolized my whole ***** area.!
I HATE ROGERS! - Invid, on 06/29/2008, -2/+13I specifically didn't. They bought my carrier and ruined them.
Rogers has a GSM monopoly. That's the problem. - JustinLucke, on 06/29/2008, -3/+14***** YOU ROGERS !!!!!!!!!!!!
- svodka, on 06/29/2008, -4/+15He's saying the phone itself is not overpriced, but the rates are. Think before you call people morons. The phone itself is extremely well priced.
- Lavarock, on 06/30/2008, -0/+10I think most of us did. Why else would we read about a petition relating to phone bills in Canada?.
- cliffr39, on 06/29/2008, -0/+9But keep in mind how all those voices came out against Apple last year when they announced the iPhone was dropping in prices? Apple said "OK here's a $100 gift card". Voices can make a difference.. not always to the extent we want but.
I say do both - petition and boycott ! Gets more notice - krash73, on 06/29/2008, -5/+15>9000
- MonkeyFarts, on 06/29/2008, -0/+9I think Joy of Tech's comic today is quite appropriate here:
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1 ... - amdahlj, on 06/29/2008, -0/+9Without a supply curve, there is no way to know which price (or either) is profit maximizing.
- macslut, on 06/29/2008, -0/+9That's free wifi at Rogers and Fido hotspots.
- fissionvsfusion, on 06/29/2008, -5/+14It's up to 12,000 now.
- ZimbuTheMonkey, on 06/29/2008, -1/+9Billion.
- inactive, on 06/29/2008, -2/+10Remember those 67 shipping containers of iPhones that arrived in the country?
I hope these are assets in Rogers' care. Lets see how fast they move, now.
Enjoy your $804 million worth of languishing inventory, *****. - Invid, on 06/29/2008, -1/+9"The fact that 9,000 Yahoos demonstrate their desire to own the device is a sure-fire way to keep the price high."
I agree that whining to Apple will accomplish nothing. These petitions should be directed to the CRTC to get off their lazy asses and break up the Canadian wireless carrier oligopoly. The price fixing and collusion needs to stop. - thomleidner, on 06/29/2008, -2/+9if Rogers is the only GSM provider in Canada and the iPhone is a GSM only device then it seems pretty cut and dry to me.
- TheIguana, on 06/29/2008, -0/+7I agree, people need to make their feelings be known to Rogers and also vote with their wallets on this. But Apple has a stake and say in this to. If the US iPhone has taught us anything, it is that Apple has had unprecedented power in what rate plans ultimately looked like in the US.
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