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- rarkai, on 10/12/2007, -5/+56Here's a quarter kid. Go downtown and buy a better internet connection.
- adinb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22I think you mean 40-50KB/s (bytes per second, not bits per second). If you're talking bps, you're talking 320-400Kbps.
- ghm101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Comment from the UK
ha ha ha ha ha - ripflash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Compared to iChat, Skype for Mac does not seem to do as good of a job in echo cancellation. I've played around with Skype a lot for OS interoperability. But on the Mac I still find iChat superior.
- adinb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Skype absolutely *sucks* for echo cancellation. It's my one big gripe--though does a good job at keeping calls much shorter ('cause it drives the party on the other end *nuts*)
- Teaboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8UK here too, and I do love my 24mbit down and 1.5mbit up :)
- DirtyBrowncoat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Here you go!
https://developer.skype.com/SkypeGarage/SkypeForWindowsExperimental/HighQualityVideoCalls
I do see a clearer picture in the webcam preview window with my 640x480 webcam, but I'm not sure how it looks on a real call. Have fun! - iliketurtles2, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6This is the highest res that the iSight supports, so 640x480 -- however what about if you connected a HD cam?
- blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7"BTW, Same file can be found on windows system. "
Yes but it would not have made it to the homepage. - beggersfunk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I agreed iChat is far superior then Skype. Somehow video looks much clear and better than skype. I have a 1 gbps /100 Mbps data-rate down stream fiber optic line so i did lot of comparison with iChat and Skype with another Friend who has the same interconnection's and speed. Clearly for Mac iChat is the winner. But hey i still used Skype with friend and family who has a Windows machine for that i appreciate Skpe.
- gentooian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I've found that I need to use headphones (or at least external speakers with low volume far from the laptop) in order to reduce the echoes. iChat, however, seems to have that functionality built into it. Skype, if you are listening, please include this feature in the next release.
- aten, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So technically how high can the resolution be set to?
- signal15, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I use a bluetooth headset with iChat and Skype and have no echo problems. I actually like iChat more than Skype, but it has very poor support for traversing firewalls. You really need a firewall with UPNP enabled to get it to work every time. I know Apple has a server out there that iChat can talk to to figure out what port it's going out and adjust appropriately, but it still doesn't work every time. Hopefully they will come out with a better method of getting two people behind firewalls connected.
Part of the problem is the fact that it uses multiple ports, and the RTP ports are dynamic (but constricted to a range). If they could continue to use SIP/RTP but encapsulate it similar to the way NAT-T works with IPSEC, it just may work much better when used in conjunction with some of the current methods they are using. - davdav, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It's not interpolated. That is the standard resolution of the iSight.
- goodoldharris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The sound quality on skype, aside from the echo issue, is way better than iChat. And if you use headphones the echo problem 100% disappears.
- GraceMolloy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Same issue. I have MBP my friend has iMac and we both have decided to use iChat primarily b/c of the issue with echo.
- truck87bp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Modems should have a WARNING label on them today. This device operates so slowly that it will make your new computer run no faster than your old one.
Phone companies need to set up to the plate and make DSL a base requirement for their subsystems. Stop ripping off people with this very outdated technology. - EduMike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm not sure what some people are getting, but Comcast's claim is approx. 350kb or so up, and I routinely get that. Unless we are confusing bits with bytes again (the age old problem)
- adinb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1See my comment at the top of the thread, I do believe they're confusing bits per second (baud) and bytes per second. I'm on the comcast "gamer" account so I'm supposedly getting 768Kbps/96KB/s, but my upstream actuals are usually closer to 540-600Kbps/63-75KBps
- blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually Google Talk is surprisingly good at echo cancellation. Too bad no one uses it (and obviously I don't since I would have to run it in Parrallels).
- davdav, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is this a half-duplex/full-duplex issue?
- tagliare, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yes
- JimXugle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Here in middle of Nowhere, USA (conveniently located 30 miles East of Pittsburgh and about 2 miles from Verizon FiOS), I'm blazing along at 3Mbit/300Kbit!!
Dontcha just love telecom monopolies? - mrops, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2BTW, Same file can be found on windows system.
I am at work and don't have a webcam, but can someone see if they can edit the file at
C:/Documents and Settings/WINDOWS_USER/Application Data/Skype/SKYPE_USER/config.xml
replace WINDOWS_USER and SKYPE_USER appropriately
and replace forward slash with back slash. (digg does not let me enter backslash)
with the instructions and get 640x480 chat on Windows platform. - tomjones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i wonder if you could use vidlord.com in this way to talk to 4 people at the same time.
- Freeskier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I believe it is related to FCC regulations on DSL limits. I was trying a few years ago to get DSL in my rural hometown and Since we were 3 miles away from the "Connect" building we could not recieve it. They blamed it on the FCC but I also think when the phone lines running there are that long the service degrades as length of line increases. Money should be Invested into nationwide FiOS instead IMHO.
- TheBeaver, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Probably, most newer codecs (h264, on2, divx, etc) look pretty decent at that data rate/resolution.
- kneecarrot, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Just tried it... works beautifully. Goodbye ichat!!!
- corneliousjd, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5Nice to see, I just wish my other friends who have mac's used skype instead of iChat...
- shaim2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2And the equivalent Windows hack is ... ?
(anyone?) - generalbeard, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I'm waiting for this to be supported in Linux.
- vinzrm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0The new iChat that will be included with OSX 10.5 offers much better quality than the last version. Skype is a good product its just the multiple person chats that hurt it.
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visit http://www.mostofmymac.com - gentooian, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1So if you do this on your computer, but the person on the other end does not, then will they see a 640x480 video of you while you see a low res video of them?
- SirBotchness, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2hey, i love it when people digg instruction booklets. Coolest story ever.
- Mootabolife, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2And by "high quality", you mean an interpolated 640x640 with washed up colors and distorted sound?
- dgh1973, on 10/12/2007, -35/+546kbps up is probably what MOST people have at home. I don't get much better than that with Comcast cable... anything tries to push out more than that and my bandwidth (up OR down) grinds to a halt.
Even if your provider says otherwise, 40k-50k up is probably what most cable modems max out at. - wbreim, on 10/12/2007, -58/+8Does it work on @ 46kbs up? I don't think so.
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