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- osiris24x, on 10/11/2007, -13/+130"Step 1: Install Linux
Step 2: Enjoy"
Step 1: Try to get the install disc to recognize your optical drive
Step 2: Attempt to fumble your way around a horrible installer
Step 3: Answer 60 million questions about which packages you want to install and which encryption type you'd like to use
Step 4: Download 13 drivers, recompile your kernel, try to figure out how to use the "man" pages, all so you can have sound
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Step 942: Give up
Don't get me wrong, I love Linux on servers, but it's an absurd choice for the average desktop user. Even the friendliest distros have a *long* ways to go. - theWrkncacnter, on 10/11/2007, -2/+43Lol you don't install linux on mac. I use ubuntu on all my pcs, but I thought the point of linux was to replace an inferior OS, such as windows.
Mac OS X already has virtually no malware, and is built on unix. It has Darwin, and many UNIX utils are already there or can be ported to it. It has probably the most well rounded UI. The reason I bought my mac was for the OS.
By installing linux, you'll get better package management. I ran the ubuntu live disk out of curiosity, but the wireless card didn't work too well : ). The only reason I see for it is as a triple boot (after windows for games). - osiris24x, on 10/11/2007, -2/+22As a Mac Consultant I have to say that's not a half bad list of optimizations. Following this list, you can get Tiger to hum along just fine on a 300 MHz G3 with only 256MB RAM.
- ScrabbyDoo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19not as well as you do, katiegirl
- rodii, on 10/11/2007, -4/+22You're a complete ass. What does spelling have to do with anything? The only questionable spelling there is "ageing", which is a common UK variant and gets 41 million google hits.
- strangewill, on 10/11/2007, -4/+21You see, OSX detects the color and look of your G3, if not up to "cool" standards it will not install.
- anonym41414, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16This article is a long list of cargo-cult nonsense. Repairing permissions has absolutely no impact on your computer's performance. In fact, it has absolutely no impact on anything. Permissions are binary; either you're allowed to do something or you're not. The only effect repairing permissions could possibly have is on security, and even that's reaching a bit. Removing "unwanted language packs" has no impact on performance; those files aren't even loaded into memory unless you're using that language.
My absolute favorite though is this one: "Your dock should only contain your most used applications so take a look through to see if there is anything you can remove or uninstall."
Oh, for cryin' out loud. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12it depends on the model of G3, the original beige ones will only go to 10.2, although there is a workaround to get 10.3. the B&W G3 towers, and the iMac DV can run tiger natively.. I have OS X Tiger Server running on an old B&W as a low traffic ldap server...
- colonelpanic, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13just got it friday. great magazine. awesoem writers and articles. been getting it for the past 5 or 6 years. I still call it macaddict.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10There's a program called XPostFacto which helps install OS X on older PPC machines.
http://www.macupdate.com/XPostFacto - theWrkncacnter, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Ram is expensive for poor college students : (
But tweaks are free : ) - supermanred, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9I need someone to slow down my os x its blowing me away
- ScrabbyDoo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9I'm on a iBook G4, and i'm using it to develop websites despite having a dual core 2 PC. Speed is just fine, just chuck as much as ram as you can into it. Of course video editing is out of the question, but for office and productivity work, it swims.
- theblueprint, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Does a G5 run OS X so poorly that going through all of this is worth it? I've got a first gen MacBook Pro, and I've never wanted for speed.
Wouldn't it just make more sense to buy some RAM? Since this is my first Mac, I don't have any experience, but Ive heard that Tiger runs well on much older hardware. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7@meatmcguffin:
Yes, that's the program I was reffering to - ggko, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Best upgrade for a PC is to put it under a bus.
- gert2, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Apple started making G5s in June 2003. That's a bit more than a year.
- Lounger540, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I've seen processes eat CPU by constantly dying and re-spawning due to a non-writable cache/log file.
Also the Spotlight catalogue process can go out of control with resources from corrupt files and permissions. - gert2, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6He doesn't specify how old it is– it's best not to assume the worst.
- Balanced, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Installing a base ubuntu install is generally pretty easy... it's going beyond that where things tend to get messy. Linux is great in appropriate places, but for a general purpose desktop I feel it can suffer from trying to do too much and thus failing. There's a lot of people who want to improve the experience, but I'm not sure they'll succeed unless some group pushes through some massive changes and standardizations... Things like a better install system (Package managers really look crude compared to drag & drop), a more developed desktp environment (As an example, one complaint the last time I messed with UNIX was that the default Ubuntu install had system settings spread (and sometimes duplicated) over two or three parts of the GUI.
This is the kind of stuff that keeps consumers using the system, as opposed to those who install it, play around a bit, then reinstall WIndows or MacOS. - eridius, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7#1 is Repair Disk Permissions.
That's all I need to read. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Repair Disk Permissions will do *nothing* for speed on your computer. - gert2, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9Tiger runs fine on a 400 MHz G3 with a GiB of RAM.
- gert2, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6You clearly don't have much experience with OS X.
- danielwsmithee, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4It is more a matter of memory and of course having the firewire port as required (but you can get around that). My main machine was a G3 up until a few months ago. It ran great. I maxed out the RAM to 640 MB though.
- Sanooj, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4how do you force delete something that's locked and force empty trash? it came off the software from my flash drive and now I can't get rid of it from my desktop. Just thinking that this is about as good a place as any to ask this question. thanks for the help (or should i say massive bury)
- meatmcguffin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I had the same problem. I think i sorted it by dragging it out of the trash, doing a get info (apple-i) on it and then unchecking the 'locked' checkbox. Then try changing the file's permissions so that you own it and have read/write access to it. If that doesn't work, try moving it into an external volume and move it to the trash from its new location. If that fails try deleting it from another computer in target firewire mode; i've had a few files refuse to delete as the finder thought it was constantly performing an operation on them.
Failing all that the terminal is your friend - man rm - chrisrcary, on 10/11/2007, -5/+8Your ageing G5? I wouldn't exactly call a barely-year-old machine AGEING, there's still a lot of power with the PowerPC machines
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Yep I istalled OSX 10.2.8 on my mom's 350 mhz crt imac with 192 megs of ram and works suprisignly well. I ran OS X 10.4.9 very smoothly with a 900 mhz ibook with 640 megs of ram until it bit the dust with the infomous logic board problem.
- yabos, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Installers can screw up permissions but even if it's messed up it doesn't affect the speed. Another stupid one is he tells you to delete caches. Caches are there to speed up your system. You're only going to make it slower by deleting them. The only thing bad is they sometimes rarely get corrupted and then you will want to delete them. However it's not very common.
Some of them are the same as well. See ones where it says 31. ... you might have already done this in #1 etc. Stupid.
The ones disabling the eye candy is stupid as well. Unless you have a really old G4 or G3 you will not see any benefit because all of these things are rendered on the GPU. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3@StrangeWill:
Yah, the different generations have different colors, so what of it? It's not about the "color" of the machine, it's about the revision. The beige G3s were like 266MHz, while the B&W was 300MHz+ and included usb and firewire. It's a newer revision, the color of the case is inconsequential.. - Balanced, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3The poster is just being weird, basically. It might make sense to delay an upgrade, sure, but if you need a new machine (like someone who uses their system for actual work), you upgrade when need and resources collide.
- valkraider, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Actually, reducing the number of items on the desktop does help performance. You can laugh all you want - but it is true:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20051117154624368&lsrc=osxh
Your mileage will depend on a lot of factors, like memory bus speed, memory amount, number of icons, etc etc etc... On a G3 or older G4 it makes a MASSIVE difference. On the latest G4s it still makes a noticeable difference. On G5s not so much, and on the intel boxes it is not really an issue (currently). - d00d, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I'm surprised you didn't get dug down for bringing logic and reason into this. The fact is, half these "speed up your Mac" articles are laundry lists of things that won't help you one bit. It's sad.
- Steeple, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4no fat chicks
- vrillusions, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3A lot of this is common sense. Go through your system panel, click through all of them and turn off stuff you don't use. While some stuff is a slight performance enhancement in some way (like disable bluetooth for better battery life) you may also learn some things about your system.
Deleting unused applications is a good one. Also be sure to check ~/Library/ for any related files as those typically don't get removed if you just drag the app to the trash, and it's much easier to do that as you delete the application instead of going back later. Keep in mind it can get a little tricky figuring out where some places put their stuff at. Usually in ~/Library/Application Support/(application name) but that's not always the case. The built in find also helps
Onyx is highly recommended for power users. The maintenance > scripts section is highly recommended. They rotate out old log files and other basic maintenance tasks. Even if you're setting up someone's computer, you can go in there and reschedule the scripts to run at times when the user typically has the computer on. It's also good for if you do run into problems but I honestly hardly use the rest of onyx aside from the maintenance tasks. - Steeple, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2just use "secure empty trash" from the finder menu, that'll nuke anything, even a loaded quicktime component!
- noahhoward, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Hooray for old, false sterotypes!
- scratched, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6Is it really possible to install OS X on a G3?
The only person I know still using a G3 says he can't upgrade past OS 9.
I'm just curious... - Twango, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1He knows what he's talking about. He just didn't sort his list by -saves most time-.
Most of this advice is all over; but putting it together -- and naming the tools -- is a Good Thing. - nixdoctor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The guy asks me to disable everything in OS X that I like. Dude, come on! I bought OS X so that I can be multi-tasking, please don't ask me to remove everything. Sheesh! I mean, this is OS X, not windows!
- valkraider, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I have OSX 10.4.9 running fine on a 500Mhz G3 iMac DVSE with 768MB RAM.
- mipadi, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1Christ, who honestly puts 600 to 800 files on his desktop? File that ***** away somewhere!
- magnakai, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Aging G5? Poor baby, I'm running Tiger on a 400Mhz Powerbook.
It actually runs quite well. You can't multi-task TOO much, but I can have Camino, Ableton Live, Peak and a couple of other programs (quicksilver, growl etc) open at the same time with no problem. - mroo, on 10/11/2007, -7/+8@thewrk: Right on ! I use my mac for MacOSX too !!
@osiris:
@balanced:
When was the last time you used Linux ? 1997? For example, every bios on the planet recognises optical devices these days.
If you installing a base install of a modern Linux Desktop it is no more difficult that windows?
As for a billion packages, maybe you SHOULDN'T choose 'ADVANCED / CUSTOM' mode if your not 'advanced' at linux?
Windows: Insert disk, click next *INSTALLED*
Linux: Insert disk, click next *INSTALLED*
MacOS: Insert disk, click next * INSTALLED*
As for additional software, I also don't see how it is any easier either?
Windows: Search for package at google + download or go to shop, pay money, download program, run it, click next INSTALLED !
Linux: Open Package manager, search for programs, tick package, click 'INSTALL', INSTALLED !
MacOS: Go to shop or search google +download, pay money, open disk image, run installer or drag app to aplications, INSTALLED !
I use all three every day, and it depends on what tools you need to do a particular job. Each OS has their strengths and weakness. - Sedjet, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1The first suggestion is repairing permissions. That hardly ever does anything...
- lauraaskey, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Some people really need to know how to give people a break
- meatmcguffin, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4But they stopped making them in August 2006. That's a bit under a year.
- ggko, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Either drag it out and unlock everything manually (Get info, uncheck the lock option) then re-trash the files, or hold down command-option while you empty the trash, the latter will ignore any locks on the files.
- christo16, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1http://www.duggmirror.com
- tuqqer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Do an experiment, mipadi: place 600 to 800 files or folders onto your Desktop. Resize them so you can see a large majority of them. Restart. Go about your normal computing day for a 7 days or so. After a week, come back and tell us if your Mac has slowed down at all. In my experience, your comments will be " yes, my Mac slowed down. It only sped back up once I "deleted things from the desktop."
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